Reevaluation of your life choices might be a better idea than scrimping coin on a "cheaper" 1300W PSU. If you feel you genuinely need something that can deliver that much power to provide yourself with amusement there's absolutely a problem and it has nothing to do at all with computer components.
Considering cases and PSUs have the longest retention, a PSU could see several generations of computer evolution where power requirements could go up. Never mind new uses, from personal AI, to VR/AR.
Nevermind the fact that people are unlikely to demand that much from a single wall outlet on the average household circuit with homes easily 40 to 100 years old and no significant change in wiring. So new uses that add additional devices of that sort of demand are unlikely. Adding various energy costs and associated power-demand increases on the grid from growing numbers of electric vehicles that will spike costs - Yeah I'm going to say that's not well thought out reasoning.
I read the conclusion as "less expensive" rather than "cheap." The voltage regulation is better than any other unit they tested, and the build quality is "commendable." In the conclusion's final paragraph he states "... presents a well-built and reliable power supply option, offering good power quality, efficient thermal management, and highly competitive noise levels.
Doesn't really seem to be anything "cheap" about this power supply. It's just a good value for people who would need more power. Gamers wouldn't buy this, someone building a workstation would.
Concur, which is why I said "cheaper" rather than "cheap" which implies lower price not bottom-of-barrel quality. The point remains though that there's few situations in which 1.3kW would be necessary and all of those situations reach well into "I'm a frantic idiot" territory.
I just want a boring PSU with this build quality and that fan at half the watts for <$100. It seems most PSU's really cheap out on fans and when they are loaded, the noise output of whatever fan they have is likely drowned out by the rest of the system anyway.
I also want the world for free, or for cheap. So maybe < $100 is not that realistic.
But a well build platinum plus PSU, with no fan noise under normal operation and lasting multiple builds is something I am happy to pay for. No need for 1300W though, even with todays GPU power explosions a 800W is plenty.
(and just to confirm that, I now have a 850W, nmo fan till 40% load, platinum plus unit with good specs, though at over twice the $100 you mentioned)
It's hard to find good quality 650-700w PSU's anymore. My last two had poor quality fans and both needed replacing after a few years, and they were expensive PSU's. My other complaint is ATX 3.0 PSU's with the PCIe 5.0 connector all seem to be high output (1000w+ models) even though many cards on the market with a PCIe 5.0 connector are sub-300w cards (like the 4070Ti) with CPU's that are often in the 125w TDP range. A 650w PSU is perfectly matched to that spec.
That's usually what I end up doing. Even on my high end Seasonic, the fan was garbage and the cooling curve was pretty conservative making the PSU run hot and quiet. I put in an NMB dual ball with an axial thermistor and wired direct to 12V bypassing the internal fan controller and while the fan idle is louder and it ramps up cooling sooner, I prefer that over a silent hot PSU.
You can have a "quality" fan, but it can be too loud because it uses double ball bearings. You can have a "silent" fan, but it will use a sleeve bearing that fails after 3~7 years. You can have a "perfect" fan, but then the PSU will cost an arm and leg.
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Purpose - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
Wow, a power supply with a Gentle Typhoon in it.PeachNCream - Friday, July 14, 2023 - link
Reevaluation of your life choices might be a better idea than scrimping coin on a "cheaper" 1300W PSU. If you feel you genuinely need something that can deliver that much power to provide yourself with amusement there's absolutely a problem and it has nothing to do at all with computer components.Threska - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
Considering cases and PSUs have the longest retention, a PSU could see several generations of computer evolution where power requirements could go up. Never mind new uses, from personal AI, to VR/AR.PeachNCream - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
Nevermind the fact that people are unlikely to demand that much from a single wall outlet on the average household circuit with homes easily 40 to 100 years old and no significant change in wiring. So new uses that add additional devices of that sort of demand are unlikely. Adding various energy costs and associated power-demand increases on the grid from growing numbers of electric vehicles that will spike costs - Yeah I'm going to say that's not well thought out reasoning.Purpose - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
I read the conclusion as "less expensive" rather than "cheap." The voltage regulation is better than any other unit they tested, and the build quality is "commendable." In the conclusion's final paragraph he states "... presents a well-built and reliable power supply option, offering good power quality, efficient thermal management, and highly competitive noise levels.Doesn't really seem to be anything "cheap" about this power supply. It's just a good value for people who would need more power. Gamers wouldn't buy this, someone building a workstation would.
PeachNCream - Saturday, July 22, 2023 - link
Concur, which is why I said "cheaper" rather than "cheap" which implies lower price not bottom-of-barrel quality. The point remains though that there's few situations in which 1.3kW would be necessary and all of those situations reach well into "I'm a frantic idiot" territory.Samus - Saturday, July 15, 2023 - link
I just want a boring PSU with this build quality and that fan at half the watts for <$100. It seems most PSU's really cheap out on fans and when they are loaded, the noise output of whatever fan they have is likely drowned out by the rest of the system anyway.hennes - Saturday, July 15, 2023 - link
I also want the world for free, or for cheap. So maybe < $100 is not that realistic.But a well build platinum plus PSU, with no fan noise under normal operation and lasting multiple builds is something I am happy to pay for. No need for 1300W though, even with todays GPU power explosions a 800W is plenty.
(and just to confirm that, I now have a 850W, nmo fan till 40% load, platinum plus unit with good specs, though at over twice the $100 you mentioned)
Samus - Sunday, July 16, 2023 - link
It's hard to find good quality 650-700w PSU's anymore. My last two had poor quality fans and both needed replacing after a few years, and they were expensive PSU's. My other complaint is ATX 3.0 PSU's with the PCIe 5.0 connector all seem to be high output (1000w+ models) even though many cards on the market with a PCIe 5.0 connector are sub-300w cards (like the 4070Ti) with CPU's that are often in the 125w TDP range. A 650w PSU is perfectly matched to that spec.meacupla - Saturday, July 15, 2023 - link
It's pretty easy to do a fan swap mod on a PSU.Samus - Sunday, July 16, 2023 - link
That's usually what I end up doing. Even on my high end Seasonic, the fan was garbage and the cooling curve was pretty conservative making the PSU run hot and quiet. I put in an NMB dual ball with an axial thermistor and wired direct to 12V bypassing the internal fan controller and while the fan idle is louder and it ramps up cooling sooner, I prefer that over a silent hot PSU.The_Assimilator - Friday, July 21, 2023 - link
Ah yes, yet another user doing stupid and unnecessary modifications because they think they know better than the manufacturer.Oxford Guy - Friday, July 21, 2023 - link
The manufacturer's goal is to extract profit. The user's goal is to extract performance.erotomania - Monday, July 24, 2023 - link
Hey, well, at least Samus did something with their PC, unlike PeachNCream who just analyzes the industry for us.Oxford Guy - Monday, July 17, 2023 - link
Even easier to not buy a product with an substandard fan.meacupla - Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - link
You can have a "quality" fan, but it can be too loud because it uses double ball bearings.You can have a "silent" fan, but it will use a sleeve bearing that fails after 3~7 years.
You can have a "perfect" fan, but then the PSU will cost an arm and leg.
Oxford Guy - Friday, July 21, 2023 - link
Or, you can use a FDB fan.