Yeah, that was a typo on our end. The 2TB drive comes with 4GB of DRAM, which is twice as much memory as we usually see on a 2TB SSD. So it's twice the usual capacity, but not twice the drive's capacity.
How many of these mythical enthusiasts do hardware companies think actually exist? That's a tiny segment of the overall market, but it certainly gets a LOT of attention. I mean sure they can just rebrand these things and sell them to other segments as well, which they no doubt do, but it seems outwardly like companies are just deluded about the number of people that label themselves or think of themselves as part of this small number of PC video game addicts.
I like my enthusiast gear, or used to at least. But now it borders on speed-for-the-sake-of-speed. It's like paying ludicrous amounts of money for RAM that has slightly better timings; outside of a benchmark, it's useless.
it's like $0.14 for 1GB of swap capability (~$3 for DDR5 serverRAM or ~$4-5 for consumer pcRAM) on up to ~10-15GB/s (for 5yrs warranty on 1400TBW, 5yrs*365/24 constantly ~9MB/s ~33GB/h, ~1/4900(~0.0002) $/1GB_written)
Don't get me wrong, it's super cool having those sort of speeds, but I just can't envision any real world application where it'd be beneficial. Anyone needing this sort of throughput is doing the sorts of things where they also want redundancy and more space, so they're better off getting a bunch of drives in an array.
I feel like I'm going to be eating my own words, as this is the sort of thing only idiots say, to eventually be proven wrong, but: will the average consumer ever really need this sort of speed lol
Someday it will be needed but it is very much overkill today. From my perspective I'd much rather halve the number of required PCIE lanes then get the extra speed.
" but: will the average consumer ever really need this sort of speed lol"
well... if your average consumer is running, wittingly or not, multi-gig 5NF relational database, then sure. Optane would be better, but Intel shot it dead.
Endurance matters more than useless speed esp when these drives cannot keep up once the drives get near to filling it's full capacity unlike Optane.
PCIe 5.0 drives have same garbage endurance rating as PCIe 4.0 ones. Only Seagate did the highest, I wonder if they are going to do it now or not. Their Firecuda 530 is only popular among the PS5 which is why I see the Heatsink variant always not the regular one on sale.
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Kevin G - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
“The MP700 also packs a decent DRAM package. The capacity of the LPDDR is double that of the drive capacity.”For some reason I believe this to be a typos as they are not putting 2 TB of LPDDR alongside 1 TB of NAND. Perhaps 2 GB?
James5mith - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
Or 4TB of LPDDR on a 2TB SSD?Ryan Smith - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
Yeah, that was a typo on our end. The 2TB drive comes with 4GB of DRAM, which is twice as much memory as we usually see on a 2TB SSD. So it's twice the usual capacity, but not twice the drive's capacity.PeachNCream - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
"...win enthusiasts over..."How many of these mythical enthusiasts do hardware companies think actually exist? That's a tiny segment of the overall market, but it certainly gets a LOT of attention. I mean sure they can just rebrand these things and sell them to other segments as well, which they no doubt do, but it seems outwardly like companies are just deluded about the number of people that label themselves or think of themselves as part of this small number of PC video game addicts.
Tunnah - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
I like my enthusiast gear, or used to at least. But now it borders on speed-for-the-sake-of-speed. It's like paying ludicrous amounts of money for RAM that has slightly better timings; outside of a benchmark, it's useless.back2future - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
it's like $0.14 for 1GB of swap capability (~$3 for DDR5 serverRAM or ~$4-5 for consumer pcRAM) on up to ~10-15GB/s (for 5yrs warranty on 1400TBW, 5yrs*365/24 constantly ~9MB/s ~33GB/h, ~1/4900(~0.0002) $/1GB_written)back2future - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
(constantly 10GB/s RAM I/O bandwidth is ~35TB/h, 1400TBW is ~40h)DanNeely - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
Better speed for the sake of speed, than unicorn vomit for the sake of charging higher prices.Threska - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
"How many of these mythical enthusiasts do hardware companies think actually exist?"Enough for the continued evolution of both the gaming and GPU market.
Tunnah - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
Don't get me wrong, it's super cool having those sort of speeds, but I just can't envision any real world application where it'd be beneficial. Anyone needing this sort of throughput is doing the sorts of things where they also want redundancy and more space, so they're better off getting a bunch of drives in an array.I feel like I'm going to be eating my own words, as this is the sort of thing only idiots say, to eventually be proven wrong, but: will the average consumer ever really need this sort of speed lol
ERJ - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
Someday it will be needed but it is very much overkill today. From my perspective I'd much rather halve the number of required PCIE lanes then get the extra speed.meacupla - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
both yes and noyes, the sequential read/write is overkill.
no, there can never be enough random read speed.
FunBunny2 - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
" but: will the average consumer ever really need this sort of speed lol"well... if your average consumer is running, wittingly or not, multi-gig 5NF relational database, then sure. Optane would be better, but Intel shot it dead.
Samus - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
Yeah, this is very much a future-focused product. Much like the RTX 4090 - it's just bragging rights these days for the vast majority of scenarios.coburn_c - Thursday, May 4, 2023 - link
Pffft, that price won't hold.shabby - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
Yup someone's drunk, good luck with that price premium.Silver5urfer - Friday, May 5, 2023 - link
Endurance matters more than useless speed esp when these drives cannot keep up once the drives get near to filling it's full capacity unlike Optane.PCIe 5.0 drives have same garbage endurance rating as PCIe 4.0 ones. Only Seagate did the highest, I wonder if they are going to do it now or not. Their Firecuda 530 is only popular among the PS5 which is why I see the Heatsink variant always not the regular one on sale.
andychow - Friday, May 19, 2023 - link
Isn't this the card that rapidly starts producing errors if not properly cooled? I.e. it doesn't throttle, it corrupts data.