quote: a $200 price tag, the DFI LanParty UT RDX200 is almost double the price of the original ATI Crossfire motherboard roadmap predictions. MSI and Gigabyte also have Crossfire boards slated for immediate release, so perhaps we will see more price adjustments here.
Does that mean that we'll soon be seeing sub $100 ATi boards?
Wow! I'm definately buying one if that's the case.
Btw, dual x16 slots are overrated. Will it be possible to use a x1 or x4 card in a x16 slot?
Just curious: has Apple made a determination yet, which company will be making their new Intel CPU based motherboards? Has the chipset been pre-determined as being "Intel only", or could NVIDIA, ULi, ATI or VIA chipsets still be a possibility for Apple's new x86 CPU based architecture?
That is: the official Apple products, to be released in 2006.
Does this comment mean that nvidia have stopped working on intel boards? If so, when did this happen?
"When NVIDIA was still on board with Intel, 975X Yonah would have meant an SLI Pentium M desktop, but now it looks like we’ll just have to settle for a Crossfire MOD board instead."
No. NVIDIA is actually going to get more agressive with Intel boards. It just means there won't be any Yonah based SLI motherboards except the one ECS is working on -- that we know of anyway....
ASRock had a few other unique products on display, including those wonderful ULi based boards. The yellow riser on this motherboard is actually for a Socket 754 expansion card. ASRock also had M2 socket kits available, but since M2 will require DDR2, we weren’t exactly sure how that riser would work.
How it works is: the Northbridge, CPU and DDR2 memory slots will be on the CPU upgrade
card. The jumpers will tell the mobo to use the stuff on the CPU upgrade card.
Think of the jumpers as a junction thingie on train tracks, a flick on a switch will
shift you to the next line over.
So all you do is...
(1) Buy an ASRock mobo now (on with the CPU upgrade slot...The yellow slot)
(2) When Socket M2 arrives, buy the Socket M2 CPU upgrade card, your prefered
Scoket M2 CPU...It doesn't matter what it is : Sempron, A64, A64 X2, Opteron 1xx
series AND some DDR2 RAM.
(3) Set the jumpers on the mobo according to manual, point it to use CPU upgrade
card.
(4) Install CPU, HSF and DDR2 RAM on upgrade card.
(5) Install upgrade onto mobo.
(6) Turn on and fingers crossed... It should work. :)
Actually while we're at it, what's the ETA to the A8N32-SLI Deluxe hitting store shelves as well?
I'd love a passively cooled motherboard and GPU since those two items tend to have the smallest, noisiest fans. I can barely imagine the joy of cutting out those two noise sources and just having a CPU fan and the PSU fan. mmmmmm!
So, DFI is getting into the Graphic card market now?
Good for them I guess, since they can push the Ati card together with the Crossfire MOBO. However, too bad Ati doesn't allow pre-OC the graphic card or else driver will reject it.
First of all, i think that your article is very good but not complete, i can't understand how can you make a review about mobo makers like "ECS" and not make a review about others like Aopen who realy deserve to be in this place :-(.thanks
Well the problem was that I didn't really spend a lot of time there. ECS is actually a lot larger than AOpen too - I tried to get as many of the big guys in at once. There will be some more follow ups in the next couple days.
I wonder why did they put all the PCI/AGP/PCIx cards unside down? I always seemed like being on top was better for airflow. Was it from a old old case design or something? Nothing more annoying that when a website asks for a serial number is having to take card out instead of looking on top for SN :D Or cleaning PC out having to take out card to clean the fan on graphics card better.
Anyway, asus is on right track putting GPU on top, will make watercooling installing much smoother to :D
ISA cards were right side up. PCI cards were made backwards so you couldn't accidently stick them in an ISA slot and short it out. Then when AGP came, they just moved the connector so it was physically impossible to put a PCI card in an AGP slot. AGP cards were made upsidedown because They didn't want to limit the number of PCI slots a system could have. At the time, mobos had ISA, PCI, and AGP all on the same board. With PCI in the middle, an extra slot would be lost if the AGP card was made right side up. Who would want a mobo with only 2 PCI slots? Anyways, now ISA is gone giving more space for more PCI slots so it's not that big a deal to give one up to flip the card over. Just make sure the mobo doesn't have parts in the way on that side of the card.
There's really nothing new about Gigabyte's enhanced cooling mechanism(and the removal of legacy ports). Abit has done it off and on for a couple of years now on their MAX/Fatality boards with OTES cooling.
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unclebud - Monday, December 5, 2005 - link
wondering what's the requirement to go on a tour or at least get an asus pinZoomer - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Does that mean that we'll soon be seeing sub $100 ATi boards?
Wow! I'm definately buying one if that's the case.
Btw, dual x16 slots are overrated. Will it be possible to use a x1 or x4 card in a x16 slot?
KristopherKubicki - Saturday, November 5, 2005 - link
Yes and Yes.
Kristopher
vailr - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Just curious: has Apple made a determination yet, which company will be making their new Intel CPU based motherboards? Has the chipset been pre-determined as being "Intel only", or could NVIDIA, ULi, ATI or VIA chipsets still be a possibility for Apple's new x86 CPU based architecture?That is: the official Apple products, to be released in 2006.
BigLan - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
Does this comment mean that nvidia have stopped working on intel boards? If so, when did this happen?"When NVIDIA was still on board with Intel, 975X Yonah would have meant an SLI Pentium M desktop, but now it looks like we’ll just have to settle for a Crossfire MOD board instead."
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
No. NVIDIA is actually going to get more agressive with Intel boards. It just means there won't be any Yonah based SLI motherboards except the one ECS is working on -- that we know of anyway....Kristopher
stmok - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
ASRock had a few other unique products on display, including those wonderful ULi based boards. The yellow riser on this motherboard is actually for a Socket 754 expansion card. ASRock also had M2 socket kits available, but since M2 will require DDR2, we weren’t exactly sure how that riser would work.How it works is: the Northbridge, CPU and DDR2 memory slots will be on the CPU upgrade
card. The jumpers will tell the mobo to use the stuff on the CPU upgrade card.
Think of the jumpers as a junction thingie on train tracks, a flick on a switch will
shift you to the next line over.
So all you do is...
(1) Buy an ASRock mobo now (on with the CPU upgrade slot...The yellow slot)
(2) When Socket M2 arrives, buy the Socket M2 CPU upgrade card, your prefered
Scoket M2 CPU...It doesn't matter what it is : Sempron, A64, A64 X2, Opteron 1xx
series AND some DDR2 RAM.
(3) Set the jumpers on the mobo according to manual, point it to use CPU upgrade
card.
(4) Install CPU, HSF and DDR2 RAM on upgrade card.
(5) Install upgrade onto mobo.
(6) Turn on and fingers crossed... It should work. :)
yacoub - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
What's the ETA on that silently-cooled 7800GT?? That is EXACTLY what I want for my next build! I bet it doesn't come out until next year! :( :( :(yacoub - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
Actually while we're at it, what's the ETA to the A8N32-SLI Deluxe hitting store shelves as well?I'd love a passively cooled motherboard and GPU since those two items tend to have the smallest, noisiest fans. I can barely imagine the joy of cutting out those two noise sources and just having a CPU fan and the PSU fan. mmmmmm!
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=A8N32-SLI+D...">http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=A8N32-SLI+D...Soon soon :(
Kristopher
yacoub - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
Thanks! Any idea when we'll see that passively-cooled 7800-series card though?I'd love me some 7800GT passive aggressiveness.
nserra - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
I guess I will have to buy the ASROCK then.notposting - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
That was the only thing I read the article for myself, was anyone else doing an AGP/PCIe ULi board?I might be getting that Asrock board pretty soon if not.
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
ECSgunblade - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
So, DFI is getting into the Graphic card market now?Good for them I guess, since they can push the Ati card together with the Crossfire MOBO. However, too bad Ati doesn't allow pre-OC the graphic card or else driver will reject it.
Ledu RF - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
First of all, i think that your article is very good but not complete, i can't understand how can you make a review about mobo makers like "ECS" and not make a review about others like Aopen who realy deserve to be in this place :-(.thanksKristopherKubicki - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
Well the problem was that I didn't really spend a lot of time there. ECS is actually a lot larger than AOpen too - I tried to get as many of the big guys in at once. There will be some more follow ups in the next couple days.Kristopher
imaheadcase - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
I wonder why did they put all the PCI/AGP/PCIx cards unside down? I always seemed like being on top was better for airflow. Was it from a old old case design or something? Nothing more annoying that when a website asks for a serial number is having to take card out instead of looking on top for SN :D Or cleaning PC out having to take out card to clean the fan on graphics card better.Anyway, asus is on right track putting GPU on top, will make watercooling installing much smoother to :D
SpatulaCity - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
The expansion cards are not upside down, your case is upside down. Just flip your case on it's head and everything should be good. :pBrian23 - Thursday, November 3, 2005 - link
ISA cards were right side up. PCI cards were made backwards so you couldn't accidently stick them in an ISA slot and short it out. Then when AGP came, they just moved the connector so it was physically impossible to put a PCI card in an AGP slot. AGP cards were made upsidedown because They didn't want to limit the number of PCI slots a system could have. At the time, mobos had ISA, PCI, and AGP all on the same board. With PCI in the middle, an extra slot would be lost if the AGP card was made right side up. Who would want a mobo with only 2 PCI slots? Anyways, now ISA is gone giving more space for more PCI slots so it's not that big a deal to give one up to flip the card over. Just make sure the mobo doesn't have parts in the way on that side of the card.ViRGE - Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - link
There's really nothing new about Gigabyte's enhanced cooling mechanism(and the removal of legacy ports). Abit has done it off and on for a couple of years now on their MAX/Fatality boards with OTES cooling.PeteRoy - Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - link
Taiwan better not fall to ChinaZoomer - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link
Yeah. Can't imagine what these CCP idiots would do to it.