That Cararra Marble edition looks dope. Also this round except ASRock nobody is using SATA connectors more than 6, why the hell esp when you have this huge bucketload of PCIe DMI / Chipset link speed. SATA Is much better for the HDDs like WD Red / Seagate Exos and esp SATA SSDs as well 870 EVO 4TB.
We just confirmed leak by MSI about EXPO (AMD's XMP rival for DRAM OC) that Ryzen 7000 series processors have PCIe5.0x4 chipset link, which is exactly having same bandwidth of Z690's PCIe4.0x8 speed link.
Perhaps this is because most consumers would not be using four Gen5 NVMe M.2 devices? Obviously if the X670E chipset supports more Gen5 options mobo makers are likely to enable them. If Gigabyte is using Gen5 to all PCIe and NMVe M.2 slots likely all the major mobo makers will offer this when the Ryzen 7000 CPUs are released. If not then consumers will need to pick the mobo that best meets their needs.
UPDATE: As stated on the Asus website and elsewhere the Asus X670E mobo offers up to 5x NVMe M.2 slots (via add in cards) with 4x being Gen5 PCIe, 1x being PCI Gen4. The common theme I see in various X670E mobo reports is that you can have up to 4x NVMe M.2 Gen5 PCIe slots with the X670E chipset. How the mobo maker accomplishes this can vary but that is what the X670E chipset supports. So there is definitely a number of X670E mobos that will offer 4x Gen5 NVMe M.2 slots for those who need them. Let's hope that Gen5 PCIe SSDs are available when the Ryzan 7000 CPUs and X670E mobos ship.
What asus meant is that 3 of them are PCIe gen5 via add in card while 1 is onboard with gen 5 and the other on board gen 4. Strange that's its 3 when a x16 slot would provide 4
At ASRock there was a loss for what to do to differentiate yet another cookie-cutter motherboard so after looking at Home Depot, they settled on slapping marble-like stickers on the already pointless "motherboard armor" that everyone else is already using in order to justify the price markup to people that are stupid enough to fall for these kinds of gimmicks. I have to admit that it's comical to see the sorts of mud that computer hardware companies will throw at the walls in an attempt to keep the margins high for their shareholders.
According to the youtuber, buildzoid, 12phases is overbuilt for 300W powerdraw. In real world testing, AT shows that 16 phases run very cool. Furthermore, if the MBs had heatsink designed for thermal dissipation, then the phases of most MBs would run far cooler than they do today.
Therefore, that doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's all hype this time around...
More phases = less electrical ripple, more efficiency than lower phases and more capacity to accommodate large power surges typical when a CPU is overclocked/uses high power. The reason other mobo makers use fewer phases is to save money vs. providing a better VRM design. This is not news. It has always been the case. You can build a VRM circuit with 8+2 phases for 300W but why would you for a top end mobo that people will want to OC to the max?
Generally pointless and an inefficient use of limited energy and resources, but whatever if making yourself feel better about that extra 2% in a benchmark for 20% more power and waste heat while we burn limited supplies and soil our proverbial cage with overbuilt this and additional capacity that then have fun. I mean it only hurts all of us when millions of people think like you and promote that thinking to others
If everyone shared your POV we'd still be using Intel 80286 CPUs, the internet would not exist nor would cellphones amongst many other techno creations.
If everyone made up 100% absurdly off base arguments to justify their being mindlessly suckered into buying marketing hype we'd have marble sticker motherboards...oh wait...hah!
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Silver5urfer - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
That Cararra Marble edition looks dope. Also this round except ASRock nobody is using SATA connectors more than 6, why the hell esp when you have this huge bucketload of PCIe DMI / Chipset link speed. SATA Is much better for the HDDs like WD Red / Seagate Exos and esp SATA SSDs as well 870 EVO 4TB.We just confirmed leak by MSI about EXPO (AMD's XMP rival for DRAM OC) that Ryzen 7000 series processors have PCIe5.0x4 chipset link, which is exactly having same bandwidth of Z690's PCIe4.0x8 speed link.
ballsystemlord - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
Actually, I'm currently using 8.1 for Blue-ray/DVD/CD drive.
1 for SATA SSD.
4 for HDDs in RAID configuration.
Even if I used an M.2 drive instead of an SATA SSD, that's still 7 connectors.
ballsystemlord - Thursday, June 2, 2022 - link
EDIT: I meant 6 for HDDs in RAID configuration.at_clucks - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
"Taichi Cararra is based on Cararra Marble from Italy,"Is this actual marble or just looks like it?
hd-2 - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
"Based on" so my money is on stickers.Slash3 - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
Looks like X690E isn't "Gen5 everywhere" after all.Is the only board with full Gen5 support so far Gigabyte's X670E Extreme?
Slash3 - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
*X670E, nice to finally have an edit button. /sTechie2 - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
I don't see an X690E chipset mobo. What do you see missing as "Gen5 everywhere" on the specific Asrock X670E?Slash3 - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
The only Gen5 is on the CPU connected x16 PCI Express slot and the CPU connected NVMe M.2 slot - the remaining three NVMe M.2 slots are Gen4.Techie2 - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
Perhaps this is because most consumers would not be using four Gen5 NVMe M.2 devices? Obviously if the X670E chipset supports more Gen5 options mobo makers are likely to enable them. If Gigabyte is using Gen5 to all PCIe and NMVe M.2 slots likely all the major mobo makers will offer this when the Ryzen 7000 CPUs are released. If not then consumers will need to pick the mobo that best meets their needs.Techie2 - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
UPDATE: As stated on the Asus website and elsewhere the Asus X670E mobo offers up to 5x NVMe M.2 slots (via add in cards) with 4x being Gen5 PCIe, 1x being PCI Gen4. The common theme I see in various X670E mobo reports is that you can have up to 4x NVMe M.2 Gen5 PCIe slots with the X670E chipset. How the mobo maker accomplishes this can vary but that is what the X670E chipset supports. So there is definitely a number of X670E mobos that will offer 4x Gen5 NVMe M.2 slots for those who need them. Let's hope that Gen5 PCIe SSDs are available when the Ryzan 7000 CPUs and X670E mobos ship.DaveLT - Saturday, May 28, 2022 - link
What asus meant is that 3 of them are PCIe gen5 via add in card while 1 is onboard with gen 5 and the other on board gen 4. Strange that's its 3 when a x16 slot would provide 4PeachNCream - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - link
At ASRock there was a loss for what to do to differentiate yet another cookie-cutter motherboard so after looking at Home Depot, they settled on slapping marble-like stickers on the already pointless "motherboard armor" that everyone else is already using in order to justify the price markup to people that are stupid enough to fall for these kinds of gimmicks. I have to admit that it's comical to see the sorts of mud that computer hardware companies will throw at the walls in an attempt to keep the margins high for their shareholders.ballsystemlord - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
I agree. Cut the stickers and a few PCIe lanes to save us some $$$.ballsystemlord - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
Sorry, I mean powerphases could be cut. They're already short on PCIe lanes on the boards.Techie2 - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
The increased powerphases are for better overclocking and lower VRM temps. The stickers and RGB are for the kids who use Mommy's money to buy PC toys.ballsystemlord - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
According to the youtuber, buildzoid, 12phases is overbuilt for 300W powerdraw.In real world testing, AT shows that 16 phases run very cool.
Furthermore, if the MBs had heatsink designed for thermal dissipation, then the phases of most MBs would run far cooler than they do today.
Therefore, that doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's all hype this time around...
Techie2 - Thursday, May 26, 2022 - link
More phases = less electrical ripple, more efficiency than lower phases and more capacity to accommodate large power surges typical when a CPU is overclocked/uses high power. The reason other mobo makers use fewer phases is to save money vs. providing a better VRM design. This is not news. It has always been the case. You can build a VRM circuit with 8+2 phases for 300W but why would you for a top end mobo that people will want to OC to the max?PeachNCream - Friday, May 27, 2022 - link
"OC to the max"Generally pointless and an inefficient use of limited energy and resources, but whatever if making yourself feel better about that extra 2% in a benchmark for 20% more power and waste heat while we burn limited supplies and soil our proverbial cage with overbuilt this and additional capacity that then have fun. I mean it only hurts all of us when millions of people think like you and promote that thinking to others
Techie2 - Friday, May 27, 2022 - link
If everyone shared your POV we'd still be using Intel 80286 CPUs, the internet would not exist nor would cellphones amongst many other techno creations.PeachNCream - Saturday, May 28, 2022 - link
If everyone made up 100% absurdly off base arguments to justify their being mindlessly suckered into buying marketing hype we'd have marble sticker motherboards...oh wait...hah!ballsystemlord - Thursday, June 2, 2022 - link
Nice one!