They mean almost the same thing. It means stretched out, like the skin of a drum, which in this case is perhaps even more fitting than extended because it suits the idea of being stretched to its limits lol.
After seeing a video der8auer did regarding DDR5 and heat/heatsinks I'm really curious if memory makers are going to have to take it seriously again. His tested Corsair Dominator actually ran hotter than the basic stick because the heatsink wasn't designed to do much beyond hold the LEDs. As the speeds keep going up it sure seems like proper heatsinks are in order.
I don't think memory rebadgers ever took memory cooling seriously. Even when memory 'heat spreaders' first caught on, they were widely considered to be useless, or even detremental. Memory slots during DDR1/2/3 era were tightly packed, and 'heat spreaders' blocked airflow over RAM. If there were four slots used, the middle two slots were, usually, the first to die.
I think DDR5 runs hotter than DDR4, not directly because of the speed, but because the voltage regulator is sitting on the DIMM, rather than the mobo.
Yeah I remember the original ones with DDR where they were only good if you could separate them. I had some during the DDR2/3 era which were actually decent. I *think* it was OCZ that had one with a heatpipe.
Agreed that the PMIC etc being on the sticks is definitely adding to the heat, but the increased speed is certainly adding to it.
they all make things worse by intentionally making bulky covers so they "feel" more premium even though they're useless for heat transfer. a thin piece of copper on each side would be more than enough for the power DDR5 pulls, and probably better for keeping temps down when all slots are loaded.
Its hard to take someone seriously when they publish something under a name like der8auer. Like if this person is going to advocate for something, doing so with a less silly name might help rational people accept the message.
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RealBeast - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
"actually part of the entended JEDEC specifications"Perhaps extended?
Oxford Guy - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
The latency certainly will be, to obtain that voltage.linuxgeex - Monday, January 31, 2022 - link
They mean almost the same thing. It means stretched out, like the skin of a drum, which in this case is perhaps even more fitting than extended because it suits the idea of being stretched to its limits lol.thestryker - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
After seeing a video der8auer did regarding DDR5 and heat/heatsinks I'm really curious if memory makers are going to have to take it seriously again. His tested Corsair Dominator actually ran hotter than the basic stick because the heatsink wasn't designed to do much beyond hold the LEDs. As the speeds keep going up it sure seems like proper heatsinks are in order.meacupla - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
I don't think memory rebadgers ever took memory cooling seriously. Even when memory 'heat spreaders' first caught on, they were widely considered to be useless, or even detremental. Memory slots during DDR1/2/3 era were tightly packed, and 'heat spreaders' blocked airflow over RAM. If there were four slots used, the middle two slots were, usually, the first to die.I think DDR5 runs hotter than DDR4, not directly because of the speed, but because the voltage regulator is sitting on the DIMM, rather than the mobo.
thestryker - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
Yeah I remember the original ones with DDR where they were only good if you could separate them. I had some during the DDR2/3 era which were actually decent. I *think* it was OCZ that had one with a heatpipe.Agreed that the PMIC etc being on the sticks is definitely adding to the heat, but the increased speed is certainly adding to it.
whatthe123 - Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - link
they all make things worse by intentionally making bulky covers so they "feel" more premium even though they're useless for heat transfer. a thin piece of copper on each side would be more than enough for the power DDR5 pulls, and probably better for keeping temps down when all slots are loaded.PeachNCream - Friday, January 28, 2022 - link
Its hard to take someone seriously when they publish something under a name like der8auer. Like if this person is going to advocate for something, doing so with a less silly name might help rational people accept the message.Kougar - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
DDR5-8888 CL88 is ouch. That's twice the latency Buildzoid was running a an unreleased kit at, DDR5-6190 CL32ddhelmet - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
What would be the effective latency?gizmo23 - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
"Hong-Kong native" "8888"That exact speed makes sense now
Koenig168 - Friday, January 28, 2022 - link
Finally, someone gets it. Don't forget the CL88.erinadreno - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
Not exactly sure the point of overclocking(overdriving) the sense amplifier and latches inside the dram. Isn't 8888CL88 worse than 4800CL40?Wereweeb - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
All competitive overclocking is just "Haha this number go big".69369369 - Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - link
In 4 years time: DDR5-14880 1.88v