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• shabby - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  Ddr4? 🧐

• psychobriggsy - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  Available and not too expensive, and not much performance difference.

• shabby - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  I understand that, but when you come out with a pricey niche product you don't put last decades tech in it.

• meacupla - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  From other tech news, I think it was LTT, DDR5 SODIMM is priced very competitively against DDR4 SODIMM, and there is a good amount of supply readily available in the system integrator market.
  
  It's just that DDR5 SODIMM is not currently available for consumers.

• jordanclock - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  I don't think DDR5 SO-DIMMs are available for purchase. And not in the way that DDR5 DIMMs are just hard to get, but DDR5 SO-DIMMs are literally just not available at any retailers.

• vFunct - Monday, January 10, 2022 - link

  More importantly, ECC?

• damianrobertjones - Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - link

  I recently built myself a Z690 machine and, ashamedly, I had to go the DDR4 route. Why? DDR5 availability at that time. Also the price.

• Drkrieger01 - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  Doesn't Thunderbolt 4 cover the USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 standard? I thought I read somewhere that they merged the standards. I just can't remember where

• ganeshts - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  TB4 covers USB4, but not USB 3.2 Gen 2x2

• cyrusfox - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  Isn't this more dependent on the device? I have read of some CFexpress type B readers that will work with either TB3/4 or USB 3.2 2x2. Maybe that was only is in regard to the cabling standard after a second read (Product - https://www.angelbird.com/prod/cfexpress-card-read... ).
  
  TB4 goes to 40gbps, but isn't backwards compatible with USB 3.2 2x2 20gbps signal rate? What would we end up with on a 3.2 2x2 device? 10gbps? 5gbps?

• Flying Aardvark - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  It is backwards compatible with USB 3.2 (2x2). See my other comment with citation. Intel isn't going to release TB4 and not have an inferior standard supported along with it.

• thestryker - Saturday, January 8, 2022 - link

  You'd end up with a 10gbps fallback if the device doesn't support 2x2 as 3.2 gen 2 is mandatory.

• Flying Aardvark - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  USB4 is just Thunderbolt 3 rebranded. Cable Matters' FAQ claims that TB4 does indeed support USB 3.2 G2x2. Which is what I was under the impression as well.
  
  https://www.cablematters.com/blog/Thunderbolt/thun...

• thestryker - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  This isn't accurate as the 2x2 part is optional example: the M1 Macs can't do 2x2 it defaults to the 10gbps standard for non TB devices.
  
  If you look at the chart for "Support of data transfer modes" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4
  
  Without Intel confirming 2x2 support it's a lot safer to just bet on it not being there.

• ballsystemlord - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  USB4 does move data at *up to* 40Gbps like USB3.2 Gen 2x2 does naively. So you may have been thinking of that.

• Flying Aardvark - Friday, January 7, 2022 - link

  USB 3.2 G2x2 (I refer to it just as USB 3.2), is 20Gbps max.

• erinadreno - Saturday, January 8, 2022 - link

  I'm current using the 11700B version of beadt canyon. That cooler is atrocious, not even capable of handling 75w sustained load with no GPU installed. They should've extend the card to ~20cm to fit two fans like in hades canyon.

• erinadreno - Saturday, January 8, 2022 - link

  *Beast canyon

• damianrobertjones - Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - link

  Can the compute unit fit into the Nuc 9 extreme case??