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  • ballsystemlord - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Spelling and grammar errors:

    "... with a fresh new look and plenty of integrated RGB, and is ."
    You're missing something here.
  • Ryan Smith - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Thanks!
  • ballsystemlord - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    I thought the move to DDR5 was supposed to herald larger RAM capacities, not the same 16GB per stick size.
  • Wereweeb - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    EUV manufacturing technology will allow for larger capacities, but 99% of people still need just 16GB of RAM.
  • DougMcC - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Even if you're just browsing the web top 100 sites, 32G is a big help these days. JS cpu/memory usage has shot through the roof.
  • Alistair - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    no
  • Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    no
  • Papaspud - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    No it isn't, I actually opened up as many tabs as I felt like- must have been about 50, my memory usage got up to 13. something gigs. Not sure why you would need 100's of tabs at the same time.
  • ballsystemlord - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    Very true. I'm at 24GB mostly due to websites with unreasonable JS code.
  • FullmetalTitan - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Go look at late DDR3 modules next to first launched DDR4 modules, or DDR2/DDR3. This has always been the case that you get similar modules with newer voltage and timing specs, and a small speed bump first, then as the process matures DIMMs start to double in size and push speed out further
  • Xajel - Sunday, October 17, 2021 - link

    Do you recall how DDR3 & 4 initial sticks capacities started at?

    Apple is rumoured to start the new MBP M1x at 16GB, this mean no 8GB for the new models, and the higher-tier capacity at 32GB (will they offer 64GB?).

    I was saying this since 2018 to make 8GB the minimum for new systems, and in 2019/2020 I rised that minimum to 12-16GB, this is all because of increased RAM usage from every app, including Windows OS it self. And then in 2018, MS announced a Surface with 4GB soldered !!, in 2019/2020 they have 8GB soldered !!.

    I hope Apple's move will also be reflected in the PC section and make 16GB the new 8GB, especially with the new trend of soldered RAM for no reason (yeah even some 16" laptops now comes with soldered RAM!)
  • Byte - Sunday, October 17, 2021 - link

    32GB ought to be enough for everyone. But seriously, I have 64GB at work ant 32GB at home. It is really hard to use up 64GB even with some VMs spun up. I can have all of adobe, office, all going and have CoD on top and it's will be fine even at 32GB. 16GB maybe if you don't close anything while launching a large game. I hate how a lot of laptops still have only 8GB and a lot cannot even be upgraded.
  • 29a - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Seems like pretty lose timings.
  • dullard - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    They are all equal to or faster than the JEDEC fast timing standards. The 6400 MHz, CL 36 version has 11.25 ns latency, which isn't too bad. Better latency than many DDR4 sticks, but yes it is a slower latency than the fastest overclocked DDR4.
  • dullard - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Sorry, meant to type "MT/s" not "MHz". Off by a factor of 2.
  • Freakie - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    6400 ÷ 36 = 177.7... That's an even lower performance index compared to basic 3000 CL16 DDR4. You don't even need XMP to beat this RAM, as the latest from Intel and AMD support JEDEC up to 3200MT/s @ CL15. That's up to 20% faster than 6400 MT/s @ CL36.
  • ballsystemlord - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    There's more to DDR5 than just a raw MT/s increase that will give you a speed boost and latency decrease.
    You'll get a 6% increase in performance (-6.2ns) speed increase just from the "Single Bank REFresh" command. They've also doubled the number of banks allowing more memory to be open at a time thus lowering latency.
    There's a lot more reading I, and you, could do on the subject.

    https://www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/docum...
  • whatthe123 - Monday, October 18, 2021 - link

    Since when is JEDEC 3200@CL15? That's XMP territory, which are overclocks, and usually b-die for timings below 3200/16.
  • sonny73n - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    Yeah crank up the speed along with higher latency. Nice trick!
  • Silver5urfer - Friday, October 15, 2021 - link

    Nobody should buy these DDR5 kits or ADL junk. It takes at-least 8000MHz+ speed to make it an improvement in absolute CPU performance boost equivalent to DDR4's top kits.

    Anyone having Z390, X470 and up should avoid these until 2024. Then DDR5 and PCIe5.0 will be matured enough along with Mobos and new 16-Pin Power supply standard for GPUs.
  • coburn_c - Sunday, October 17, 2021 - link

    That's the plan, a 5900XT with two center of the wafer ccds would be nice to run for a couple years
  • Oxford Guy - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    I see no rhinestones so very not interested.
  • Papaspud - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link

    🤣👍
  • vincent mclane - Friday, February 4, 2022 - link

    Anyone having Z390, X470 and up should avoid these. Then DDR5 and PCIe5.0 will be matured enough along with Mobos and new 16-Pin Power supply standard for GPUs, if you want to talk tech, come by my shop in the las vegas area https://contextnyfair.com/top-5-questions-to-ask-a...">mobile mechanic Las Vegas

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