I've been using it for the last few weeks and compared to the utter revulsion I had during the Windows 8 and even early Windows 10 beta periods, I have to say I'm... generally fine with it?
There are absolutely some areas that feel overly dumbed down in the customization side, and the rounded bubble edges on everything sometimes look and feel a bit too babys first googoo gaga operating system. But there are also times that I generally appreciate the small changes, such as in the Settings app having a colorful icon next to the categories making it much easier to find. They have also made common tasks a lot more easy to find in settings, and cut down on some of the awful overlapping Settings/Control Panel madness... although comically control panel is still here and still needed. Sigh. Microsoft.
It DOES feel heavily Mac/PopOS, but I personally dont mind that for a daily driver at all. And it will still require a lot of regedit to get comfortable with/clean the bloat and tracking out of from a fresh install for a power user, just like Windows 10. But it seems like one of the better launch day Windows products.
A big caveat to that is that I'm running my gaming benchmarks today, but based on other peoples experience I don't expect too much of a drop off.
By the way, i was able to easily bypass the TPM requirements during install for my Ivy Bridge testbed with a little regedit and some Googling. Power users should expect to be in high demand for relatives/friends who want Windows 11 on their older devices.
I wouldn't say "worse", because there are some upgrades and it is generally more similar than dissimilar. The settings app is much better, the OS wide animations are nicer, the new start menu layout and search are better, both file explorer and context menus are easier to navigate at a glance, the window snapping/mutli desktop functionality is both better imo... and thats really about it.
It genuinely feels closer to a 98SE or Win 8.1 vs a whole new OS. Hell, it feels closer to a Rainmeter reskin then a new OS.
Apple and Microsoft should just shake hands and create the ultimate OS, Macdows, so modern they select the wallpaper for you, and report you if you change it.
Jokes aside, Microsoft has made an honest attempt reducing the OS's footprint, even in 11, and the size of updates have been reduced considerably (~40%), owing to the new system that doesn't package the reverse deltas.
Haven't tried this myself, and caution is advised. Apparently, one can bypass TPM entirely, but it's best first to try Microsoft's method of bypassing TPM 2.0 and using 1.2. Also, 11's said to be in quite a shabby state right now, so it might be best to wait for the next update. Backups, too, are wise.
Apologies for the comments, but thought I'd add this here for the sake of completion. TPM can be bypassed entirely, along with Secure Boot. If one isn't fond of the Registry, the popular Rufus tool can be used to do this as well.
Customizability and features being dropped? You don't say? Ever since mobile came around, any semblance of real computing went out the window and it's like nobody even noticed. Developers intentionally restrict, hide or block features to make you use the application in the way they want you to use it (also to save precious lines of code on creating a functional settings menu). If you compare the flexibility, usability, configurability, and features of Windows apps to Android apps, it's like 1,000 to 1. Things are being intentionally dumbed down, and it's not for the good. If you're going to dumb something down, then at least include the advanced version for users who want to actually use their computer and don't want arbitrary restrictions.
I can't imagine why anyone would be interested in Windows 11. Windows 10 is the most insane piece of software I've ever used. I have 134 processes running on cold boot, some of them protected, and virtualized apps I can't manipulate. Several "helper" services designed to run alongside Windows services and help them, the OS is held together with tape. Multiple settings applications. The Microsoft and Xbox stores are some of the worst apps ever, laggy, ugly, poor descriptions and poor configurability, which is strange because they could have just copied the gold standard which is Steam. Candy crush was installed by default. The spying features are quite comprehensive and built in all over the place.
Meanwhile, the Start menu takes a very long time to open even on my new PC when it should be 50-100ms. The new task manager is absolute junk (there's a way to get the old one with winaero). It's clear to see where their priorities were, and where the resources were spent.
I had a situation a while back where my calculator application wouldn't open. It just stopped working one day, probably a problem with Windows update or something - because somehow it's not just a simple binary anymore, it's a space calculator from the future. I had to reinstall Windows to get it to work.
Windows Update restarts your computer automatically while you are not there. There is no setting to disable the restart, just to delay it. I can't even tell you how many times I've woken up in the morning to find all my documents and applications closed because of this. I had to download and install the Policy Editor on Home edition just to turn off automatic restarting.
Forgot to mention, the various error reporters and virus scanners and updaters are regularly using 50 to 100% CPU on my laptop, no matter how much I try to stop them.
If there were a viable alternative, I would use it. A viable alternative means being able to run ALL windows applications, inside a Windows Explorer interface. Let me know when it happens. Linux has been a catastrophic failure, capturing only 2% market share - it's so good, you can't even give it away for free. Macs are alright.
I find ShutUp10 useful in curtailing 10's behaviour; and OpenShell to get the classic Start menu back. No classic Start, no Windows. Concerning Calculator, if you'd like the one from 7 back, there's a download, I think, on Winaero.
My god!!!!!!!!!!!! The Windows 10 Calculator! I've had it, after years of this thing. I hit run, type calc, enter - why is it taking up to near 5 seconds to open this junk WHY?
Good point about it taking 5 seconds to open. A lot of things in Windows 10 are like that. Replacing bits and pieces won't help if the underlying codebase for the shell, services and applications is just bad.
Yeah, exactly. Because it has corporate backing. They ("Linux community") couldn't do it by themselves, they just haven't done anything since like 1983. Goes to show that it could have been done anytime, they just didn't want to do it.
Incidentally, it was Google that turned computers from tools into commercialized toys with Android. In Windows I can customize nearly every single aspect of the UI, background processes, hotkeys, I can open multiple windows at the same time and move things around. Custom ROMs are garbage and just give you the illusion of customization in an extremely limited OS.
Well I'm with you on the fact that android is a complete garbage compared to windows, Linux on the other hand is only a failure on a adoption, the OS have nothing to do, DirectX "and" MS support for windows apps developers is an important key factor, no matter what a superior Linux you build the users will not give up their games and apps library, games developers rarely consider Linux, the shitty android has a big store you can't ignore, a device with android installed is a shame on a compute machine, Apps stores density decides what share an OS will take, most people will buy even Xbox "one" instead of a cheaper PS5 if PS5 has only one game
Agreed, but "consumers" are just normies, they are mostly the people you see working at Subway and commenting on YouTube. Increasingly moreso as people make more money and the internet is integrated more into everyday life. It's the eternal september again, v2 or v10 (not sure). Large companies make the decisions about what to put out, and consumers will buy and enjoy whatever they are told to buy (whatever's available, within certain limits). 99% of people well tell you "Heh heh I don't care" and some will make a big point about how pointless it is to spend your time worrying about this stuff, they just want an iPhone.
I tried installing Linux on my desktop one time. The graphics barely worked, sound didn't work at all, and the Linux guru helping me couldn't easily figure it out and started searching on forums. I went back to Win95 and everything simply worked perfectly including WinAMP and music.
funny maybe you should try it again I have been trying linux kubuntu and installed steam and proprietary nvidia drivers and have been playing Doom Eternal with RTX enabled without any problems Strangely Kubuntu Plasma desktop looks very similar to win 10 and 11 if you want Apple style go with Ubuntu I also have Linux Manjaro with KDE plasma desktop and similar experiance to Kubuntu again playing most of my steam games witout degredation but this was not the case just 2 years ago.
Although I’m not as over-the-top about disliking Windows, I also experienced the calculator no longer working around Windows 10 1903.
It’s worth noting that Server 2016, 2019, and 2022 Datacenter are all available for free to students and faculty with a .edu email address through Azure, and I find these to be faster and more stable than the mainline Windows releases.
However, on desktop systems with more than 64 logical processors, it’s worth noting that much otherwise “embarrassingly parallel” binary software cannot make use of the hardware due to Windows processor groups (and by extension the fact that legacy programs are not processor group aware). If these programs cannot be compiled again due to missing dependencies, etc. then Linux is the only viable option for exploiting this hardware. So, while Linux is a failure in the desktop market as you say, the underlying system is much more scalable than Windows has proven to be thus far.
I haven’t had any major issues with it so far (for desktop use to be clear). Virtualization through HyperV is slightly faster (running on one Epyc 7742). CPU compute performance is slightly higher than Server 2019 Datacenter, yet slightly lower than Server 2016 Datacenter (and much lower than Debian or Clear Linux). I’m not seeing any change in IO performance with Optane or NAND storage. Lots of security options that look like they’d hurt performance though. Overall it’s more of the same.
Well I'm with you on the fact that android is a complete garbage compared to windows, Linux on the other hand is only a failure on a adoption, the OS have nothing to do, DirectX "and" MS support for windows apps developers is an important key factor, no matter what a superior Linux you build the users will not give up their games and apps library, games developers rarely consider Linux, the shitty android has a big store you can't ignore, a device with android installed is a shame on a compute machine, Apps stores density decides what share an OS will take, most people will buy even Xbox "one" instead of a cheaper PS5 if PS5 has only one game
>Ever since mobile came around, any semblance of real computing went out the window and it's like nobody even noticed. I realize this may sound elitist, but if you were relying on GUI programs, you were always using dumbed-down computing. If anything, I've been having more of the feeling that developers have started realizing that more and more, adopted their GUI stuff accordingly, and left the real computing to people who are comfortable with the edifices of real computing with command-line interfaces, editing config files or registry entries, programmatic interfaces, &c&c.
As someone who has always live in that world, I've only noticed "realm computing going out the window" as a thing in my peripheral vision, and I kinda understand why developers do it that way. It's just focusing the proper resources where they're needed.
Microsoft doesn't give a shit about user experience. If they did, everything would open instantly, you'd be able to customize UI's including font sizes, and you'd be able to resize the Teams window to be as small as you want. They only seem to prioritize the experience of their own developers.
Hey, I rather like finding Windows 3.11 or NT remnants....
Nah, you're right, it's dogshit. If it wasn't for a single bit of expensive hardware with no Linux support, I'd be on Linux right now. Instead, I get to have lots of VMs and wonder what might have been.
I do have a Windows 95 VM. It's genuinely horrific realising how responsive Windows 95 was Vs the wading through treacle that is Windows 10. I might bring back Windows RG.
7 was also helped by the explosion in powerful hardware. Vista came out in 2006. 7 in 2009. Larger pools of system memory, DDR2, early DDR3, high clocked dual core Core 2s and athlons and video cards with higher core counts and memory speed had replaced the widespread 64MB or less GPUs, pentium IV CPUs, and 512MB memory pool systems vista was trying to be loaded on.
7 really doesnt run well on the configs that vista didnt run well on either.
I think the secret of 7 was actually the greater polish, sanding away Vista's rough edges. Colours were noticeably toned down, there was translucency for maximised windows, bigger min/max/close buttons, rotating wallpaper, the glorious animation on the Start menu pearl, a taskbar worth its weight in gold, faster booting. It's these little touches, that last 1%, that took it into excellence Vista never reached. Yet Vista did most of the hard work.
XP WAS good. But I just tried to virtualise XP with a quad-core processor, and XP could recognise multiple cores in multi-socketed systems, but if I set my XP VM with 4 cores from my Core i7-8559U, XP doesn't know what to do with it (though I wished that it did).
XP WAS fast, but with its age, also shows its limitations as well.
MS wants to see if it can copy Apple’s extreme planned obsolescence routine, one-upping the company by making it more egregious.
High-performance hardware is being banned so MS and hardware vendors can shake people down.
Windows 11 does not offer enough value to be a product for consumers. It’s a product by and for MS, with the company betting that passivity will ge enough — which, of course, it will.
Both companies have insanely high valuations precisely because consumers are so passive. They’ll trade value for laziness over and over again.
I had been thinking about giving 11 a try, but of late am just not interested any more. Windows 10 works all right, so why create more headache? And 11 seems ambitious of following in the illustrious footsteps of Vista and 8.
Intel has new BS biglittle copycat on x86 to combat the AMD and Apple processors and they have a huge say in the x86 world simply because of how their Server Marketshare is, 90%+ And now note how Win11 SAC is no more, it's AC, basically Win10 is Semi Annual Channel releases and Win11 abandoned it for Annual releases. A big relax for the MS, yeah users are beta testers for a long time but this helps them and that secures their new Win11 licensing systems.
Now there might be a question why the new systems and all, x86 products that Intel sells are more in Laptop BGA trash ware not DIY, and Servers are top ofc. With these new thin and light devices selling in volumes, remember how Chrome OS and Chromebooks had a huge boost ? People are getting dumber and dumber so they are fine with yearly trash refreshes of Smartphones for $1000 and same for laptops, shiny new toy.
And finally Windows team at M$ was abandoned long back in 2018 itself, the guy who was at MS responsible for the division was laid off and then Office / Cloud teams took over it, they started adding without any direction, which became the abomination called Win10 a mish mash of garbage new UI and solid Win32 both shoved together. M$ wants to get rid of all that baggage, so they made Panos Panay the dumb idiot who barely even knows what is an OS as head because Surface garbage to combat Apple tablets and other touch screen ecosystem. Remember this is highest volume of x86 shipments.
Ultimately because of that new UI was made, watch the video of the fools who worked on it, basically when MS orphaned Windows team internally it was fractured heavily with all that Win10X Windows S and other garbage so the reason why it looks so garbage and anti desktop because the people who worked on the management and directing this dumpster which kills all Taskbar behavior and so many Win32 features removed are simply and they all are addicted to Apple mediocrity and poor dumb UX, that bled to Win11 UX. But Nadella focus is to make money, so they had the Xbox Gamepass and others, which is why the Store had a revamp and massive focus to make it centralized Win32/UWP repo, Windows have decentralized system of software distribution which makes it superior to Linux in my eyes, no BS dependencies to download or anything, simply can be found on internet due to Win32 flexibility.
Final piece of puzzle TPM, why ? Again money, Intel and AMD and other OEMs can mint money due to the offloaded cost to Consumer citing new DRAM DDR5, Big little marketing (Intel) and others and get Win11 licensing, on top their entire Office suite is as a Service, basically everything is as a service. They even announced the DaaS. Now the TPM, with Win10 extensive propaganda level push GWX, forced updates on everyone and constant spying and nagware MS got all the data they need for NSA and Patriot Act in US and world wide data mining. Who controls the data controls the world - MS, Amazon, Google, Apple, FB the giant goliaths. So now they do not need the old husk of machines simply break them officially by introducing the TPM hard requirement. It's using Secure Boot and TPM when both combine Windows Defender can even scan the BIOS, check Defender ATP page, they give this exact requirement to get BIOS scanning. Oh also they will abandon CSM on BIOS side, it was scheduled for 2020 got delayed, now I bet no Z690 and X670 boards will have CSM anymore, more UEFI licensing by MS, no more Windows 7. Plus TPM gets them even more data and control. Win11 home doesn't even work without MS Account.
This POS dumpster OS should be avoided by any sane person. Win10 is better esp if you can get hands on LTSC and debloat it to basics, there's a new 2021 LTSC also coming for Win10 stick to the Win10 it's better. Win11 RTM will be broken garbage and there's absolutely no need to install it either.
I agree with most of this. In a few places I had no clue what you were talking about, but it sounds about right. Microsoft is just some company from the 90s, it makes no sense that they should have a global monopoly on operating systems or their user interface.
I like the Windows interface. They have billions of dollars. They can improve it, make it work faster, better, more organized, and add more features. They are in a perfect position to do something good, but they just don't want to.
I think this is a pattern with Microsoft: a disappointing OS, followed by a first-rate one. ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10. By this logic, Windows 12 should be worthy of applause.
I've been using Windows 11 for a while now on my HTPC. Running on a 4K screen from several metres away, I have to use 200% UI scaling for the text to be readable. No big deal, right? Turns out the Start Menu doesn't seem to support UI scaling properly, and the OS is doing the crappy upscaling method and makes it look really blurry.
Less customization? Thanks but I'll pass. I spend enough time getting Windows 10 "straight" after a fresh install. Now that's gonna be more time consuming and difficult? What are they thinking?
"What are they thinking?" They're thinking they want millions of people to start repeating the words "Windows 11" aloud like trained dogs. If you actually believe they're trying to improve the operating system for you and me, that's a fundamental error, there is no reason for them to do that.
I still don't get it. Windows 10 should allow the customization options to achieve this look instead of launching a whole new OS. If all they have to advertise is the almost-no-change-UI, and all benchmark testing has shown essentially no difference between W10 & W11, then WHY RELEASE IT? I just don't see a mass migration to W11 if there's no real upgrade. Makes 0 sense. Sounds like Apple marketing and release to me and that's not a good direction for companies like Microsoft.
Gotta remember the Windows 10 credo back then "Windows everywhere" Means PC, XBOX and phones
Since that failed I guess the new direction is to clamp down on security While you could have all the security on 10, 11 is enforcing it
Guess they try to go after big business bucks
I'm on a first Gen Ryzen, not gonna upgrade just because I could force it For what really It looks a bit prettier, and sounds a bit prettier That isn't weigh for me as a private person to upgrade the OS, and especially not to build a new rig
Personally I think the getting "Windows crammed into everything anywhere " isn't this generations motto at all
It's more, take it or leave it
Also keep in mind Windows terrible history/cycle One OS is great, next one is trash
Hasn't been broken yet
While 11 might not be trash, it could very well be under performing for adoption
EcoQoS and enhanced PowerThrottling API are why. Just about every Windows 11 app was recompiled for lower power usage compared to Windows 10, this will be especially true when Alder Lake comes out.
They REALLY NEED to get a better typeface....The current one is too 'light' for weaker eyes to not have to strain, causing some to have headaches after LONG usage times.
The loss of Win 10's start-up 'groups' can be solved by making folders and copying (or creating) shortcuts inside. For instance, a folder called 'Office' with the various shortcuts inside.
Really, this is more about new paint as it is about a better OS
The fact you can't change the taskbar location is just one small things about how the taskbar is now almost useless and productivity will be heavily impacted. Like the claimed improved multi-monitor support but yet the new taskbar only show the clock on the primary monitor which when in full screen-mode means no clock visible. It's a 1 step forward 2-steps back situation really.
I'm guessing they'll add the taskbar location option, since almost every Win11 article seems to mention it as a deficiency. This seem like a minimum viable product. Time will tell how fast features will be added to fill in the rough spots.
If your Surface Book had 16:9 screen, you might be more tolerant to "moans and complaints" about inability to move taskbar to the side of the screen, then again, maybe you do not have to work with the structured text the whole day long...
Hmm ... not being able to move the task bar is a big negative for me ... I may be one of the few people that used that feature, but for years (since windows 2k) my desktop layout was centered around having the taskbar on the right side of the screen.
I hope somebody will program an extension that will allow this.
You are, definitely, not alone -- a lot of people who work with the structured text (e.g code) value every pixel of the vertical real estate. This said, it is certainly less of an issue on Microsoft devices with 3:2 screen aspect ratio...
Those people that value vertical real estate always turn around and by short-screen monitors. They are called wide-screen, but really just have the top vertical pixels chopped off and they charge more for that service.
No Start menu icon groups or folders. For those of us with a multi-use PC (in my case it's schematic design and printed circuit board layout, video and audio production, photography, gaming), removing those Start menu organizational features would have a real impact.
Windows 10 doesn't force people to use those organizing methods - it's idiocy to remove them as a choice.
Seems a year too early to me. Given where we are in the x86 product cycle and the chip shortages, combined with the maximum cpu age restrictions, releasing something that has a main purpose of driving new device sales right now seems premature.
Plus, moving the start button out of the bottom left corner. That's going to hurt.
"Tablet Mode is now gone as well, so if you liked to use Windows 10 in its more touch-friendly mode, you will likely be disappointed."
So is MS just giving up on tablets, giving surface users the middle finger? Why even bother with the metro/modern/whateverTF they call it interface change if they just go and abandon tablet mode?
I cloned my SSD and installed Windows 11 update... Apartfrom CFOSpeed network data shaping tool (which has been of limited utility beyond monitoring internet connections and download speeds) I have found no issues.
5900x and 3080RTX on gigabyte X570 Aorus Master...
No issues to report. Installed the latest MB bios with TPM2 support. Enabled it. Set the update to run. went to bed. checked my computer the next morning and it was installed.
Plays nicely with grub and my Mint 20.2 installation which I was concerned with what with TPM 2 and all. Interface is more consistent and seemingly refined than W10 and when you remove the "increase spacing" touch bollocks setting, everything is fine.
One noted improvement is with my 42:9 UW monitor. My Samsung Odyssey G9 now plays well with G-Sync (something was borked under W10) and the new full screen tiling feature is a godsend on this ridiculous aspect ratio'd beast. And it seems to play nicely with my secondary monitor
Downside?
The menu is stuck at the bottom which is silly at this aspect ratio and I miss the clock on my secondary monitor's start bar.
I also miss the more functional start menu which has become little more than a glorified right click menu... But TBH, I usually use windows plus search to launch my software anyway.
All in all a drama free update. Will keep my old W10 clone just in case something pops up. The only reazson I still have this is for games that use anti cheat and have no linux support.
I would love to be able to try it out, but if TPM 1.2 is a minimum, HARDWARE requirement, then it'll be a while before I will be able to give Win11 a shot.
Wake me up when Microsoft lets users customize the UI and prioritizes responsiveness with minimal input lag. They have 182,000 employees and can't grasp the most common sense of basic concepts!
"Wake me up when Microsoft lets users customize the UI"
I reckon what's going on is a larger shift in thinking across the world, where "orthodoxy" prevails, and when I say orthodoxy, I mean the current idea of what's good, best, or accepted. Certain [x] is the way it is, and anything else is frowned upon. From this mode of thinking, this intolerance towards other points of view, comes an almost despotic control; and in computer terms, we end up with lack of customisation like we had in the old days. (Today is a far cry from the whimsical days of Plus 98.) Instead, they choose what's good for us, ironically with a great deal of lip-service concerning "choice."
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powerarmour - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
First stage to switch to a MacOS UI, second stage will be a Linux kernel and then the cycle will be complete.Threska - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Third stage- "but why doesn't this work anymore"? :-DGigaplex - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
WSL2 - it kind of already has a Linux kernel already (but not in the way you were thinking)damianrobertjones - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
ZzzZzzz. Every single new Windows release, you funny guys appear, jealous of Windows.Oxford Guy - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
Whatever that was.Cygni - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I've been using it for the last few weeks and compared to the utter revulsion I had during the Windows 8 and even early Windows 10 beta periods, I have to say I'm... generally fine with it?There are absolutely some areas that feel overly dumbed down in the customization side, and the rounded bubble edges on everything sometimes look and feel a bit too babys first googoo gaga operating system. But there are also times that I generally appreciate the small changes, such as in the Settings app having a colorful icon next to the categories making it much easier to find. They have also made common tasks a lot more easy to find in settings, and cut down on some of the awful overlapping Settings/Control Panel madness... although comically control panel is still here and still needed. Sigh. Microsoft.
It DOES feel heavily Mac/PopOS, but I personally dont mind that for a daily driver at all. And it will still require a lot of regedit to get comfortable with/clean the bloat and tracking out of from a fresh install for a power user, just like Windows 10. But it seems like one of the better launch day Windows products.
A big caveat to that is that I'm running my gaming benchmarks today, but based on other peoples experience I don't expect too much of a drop off.
By the way, i was able to easily bypass the TPM requirements during install for my Ivy Bridge testbed with a little regedit and some Googling. Power users should expect to be in high demand for relatives/friends who want Windows 11 on their older devices.
Threska - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
There's suppose to be a script out there.GeoffreyA - Friday, October 8, 2021 - link
https://www.theverge.com/22715331/how-to-install-w...https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-t...
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
It sounds like a worse version of Windows 10.Cygni - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I wouldn't say "worse", because there are some upgrades and it is generally more similar than dissimilar. The settings app is much better, the OS wide animations are nicer, the new start menu layout and search are better, both file explorer and context menus are easier to navigate at a glance, the window snapping/mutli desktop functionality is both better imo... and thats really about it.It genuinely feels closer to a 98SE or Win 8.1 vs a whole new OS. Hell, it feels closer to a Rainmeter reskin then a new OS.
GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
How's the space? I noticed the ISO is surprisingly small at 1.1 GB. W10 used to be 4-5.GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
My mistake. Faulty mobile browser. The ISO's 5.5 GB.Oxford Guy - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
Perhaps they’ll copy Apple further and force people to download all the basic components of the OS — like the English dictionary.Clever strategy to derail air gapping to avoid the ‘telemetry’.
GeoffreyA - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
Apple and Microsoft should just shake hands and create the ultimate OS, Macdows, so modern they select the wallpaper for you, and report you if you change it.Jokes aside, Microsoft has made an honest attempt reducing the OS's footprint, even in 11, and the size of updates have been reduced considerably (~40%), owing to the new system that doesn't package the reverse deltas.
Meteor2 - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Good mini-review. It does look very pretty. Win 10 is... "functional", at best.Can't believe Control Panel is *still* there. That has has to be an in-joke by now.
alpha754293 - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
Can you bypass the TPM requirement completely or do you still need, at LEAST TPM 1.2?GeoffreyA - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
Haven't tried this myself, and caution is advised. Apparently, one can bypass TPM entirely, but it's best first to try Microsoft's method of bypassing TPM 2.0 and using 1.2. Also, 11's said to be in quite a shabby state right now, so it might be best to wait for the next update. Backups, too, are wise.https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-t...
https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-upgrade-to...
GeoffreyA - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
For my part, I would have installed 11 already, but I'm just not looking forward to a degraded taskbar, along with having to turn on Secure Boot.GeoffreyA - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
Apologies for the comments, but thought I'd add this here for the sake of completion. TPM can be bypassed entirely, along with Secure Boot. If one isn't fond of the Registry, the popular Rufus tool can be used to do this as well.https://www.techpowerup.com/287584/windows-11-tpm-...
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Customizability and features being dropped? You don't say? Ever since mobile came around, any semblance of real computing went out the window and it's like nobody even noticed.Developers intentionally restrict, hide or block features to make you use the application in the way they want you to use it (also to save precious lines of code on creating a functional settings menu). If you compare the flexibility, usability, configurability, and features of Windows apps to Android apps, it's like 1,000 to 1. Things are being intentionally dumbed down, and it's not for the good. If you're going to dumb something down, then at least include the advanced version for users who want to actually use their computer and don't want arbitrary restrictions.
I can't imagine why anyone would be interested in Windows 11. Windows 10 is the most insane piece of software I've ever used. I have 134 processes running on cold boot, some of them protected, and virtualized apps I can't manipulate. Several "helper" services designed to run alongside Windows services and help them, the OS is held together with tape. Multiple settings applications. The Microsoft and Xbox stores are some of the worst apps ever, laggy, ugly, poor descriptions and poor configurability, which is strange because they could have just copied the gold standard which is Steam. Candy crush was installed by default. The spying features are quite comprehensive and built in all over the place.
Meanwhile, the Start menu takes a very long time to open even on my new PC when it should be 50-100ms. The new task manager is absolute junk (there's a way to get the old one with winaero). It's clear to see where their priorities were, and where the resources were spent.
I had a situation a while back where my calculator application wouldn't open. It just stopped working one day, probably a problem with Windows update or something - because somehow it's not just a simple binary anymore, it's a space calculator from the future. I had to reinstall Windows to get it to work.
Windows Update restarts your computer automatically while you are not there. There is no setting to disable the restart, just to delay it. I can't even tell you how many times I've woken up in the morning to find all my documents and applications closed because of this. I had to download and install the Policy Editor on Home edition just to turn off automatic restarting.
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Forgot to mention, the various error reporters and virus scanners and updaters are regularly using 50 to 100% CPU on my laptop, no matter how much I try to stop them.If there were a viable alternative, I would use it. A viable alternative means being able to run ALL windows applications, inside a Windows Explorer interface. Let me know when it happens. Linux has been a catastrophic failure, capturing only 2% market share - it's so good, you can't even give it away for free. Macs are alright.
GeoffreyA - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I find ShutUp10 useful in curtailing 10's behaviour; and OpenShell to get the classic Start menu back. No classic Start, no Windows. Concerning Calculator, if you'd like the one from 7 back, there's a download, I think, on Winaero.flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Didn't need any of those three things in Windows 7. I honestly forget the difference between 7 and XP, but I remember not completely hating 7.GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
XP and 7 were class.AbRASiON - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
My god!!!!!!!!!!!! The Windows 10 Calculator! I've had it, after years of this thing. I hit run, type calc, enter - why is it taking up to near 5 seconds to open this junk WHY?Thanks, I'm finally going to replace it.
flyingpants265 - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Good point about it taking 5 seconds to open. A lot of things in Windows 10 are like that. Replacing bits and pieces won't help if the underlying codebase for the shell, services and applications is just bad.GeoffreyA - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
It's a UWP application likely written in C# and .NET, and will be slower than the classic Win32 calculator.XJDHDR - Tuesday, October 12, 2021 - link
The problem is your PC. Win10 calc opens instantly for me.Gigaplex - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
"Linux has been a catastrophic failure, capturing only 2% market share - it's so good, you can't even give it away for free."Linux has around 85% of the mobile (ie phones) market share.
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Yeah, exactly. Because it has corporate backing. They ("Linux community") couldn't do it by themselves, they just haven't done anything since like 1983. Goes to show that it could have been done anytime, they just didn't want to do it.Incidentally, it was Google that turned computers from tools into commercialized toys with Android. In Windows I can customize nearly every single aspect of the UI, background processes, hotkeys, I can open multiple windows at the same time and move things around. Custom ROMs are garbage and just give you the illusion of customization in an extremely limited OS.
cc2onouui - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
Sorry.. this is where my comment should beWell I'm with you on the fact that android is a complete garbage compared to windows, Linux on the other hand is only a failure on a adoption, the OS have nothing to do, DirectX "and" MS support for windows apps developers is an important key factor, no matter what a superior Linux you build the users will not give up their games and apps library, games developers rarely consider Linux, the shitty android has a big store you can't ignore, a device with android installed is a shame on a compute machine, Apps stores density decides what share an OS will take, most people will buy even Xbox "one" instead of a cheaper PS5 if PS5 has only one game
Oxford Guy - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
‘Linux has been a catastrophic failure, capturing only 2% market share’Consumers have been the failure, allowing monopolies and duopolies to shake them down with asinine releases like this one.
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Agreed, but "consumers" are just normies, they are mostly the people you see working at Subway and commenting on YouTube. Increasingly moreso as people make more money and the internet is integrated more into everyday life. It's the eternal september again, v2 or v10 (not sure). Large companies make the decisions about what to put out, and consumers will buy and enjoy whatever they are told to buy (whatever's available, within certain limits). 99% of people well tell you "Heh heh I don't care" and some will make a big point about how pointless it is to spend your time worrying about this stuff, they just want an iPhone.Oxford Guy - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
The humour is that the same thing that causes pseudo-communism to fail causes this pseudo-capitalism to fail.AnnonymousCoward - Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - link
I tried installing Linux on my desktop one time. The graphics barely worked, sound didn't work at all, and the Linux guru helping me couldn't easily figure it out and started searching on forums. I went back to Win95 and everything simply worked perfectly including WinAMP and music.jtiller90 - Thursday, October 14, 2021 - link
funny maybe you should try it againI have been trying linux kubuntu and installed steam and proprietary nvidia drivers and have been playing Doom Eternal with RTX enabled without any problems
Strangely Kubuntu Plasma desktop looks very similar to win 10 and 11 if you want Apple style go with Ubuntu
I also have Linux Manjaro with KDE plasma desktop and similar experiance to Kubuntu
again playing most of my steam games witout degredation
but this was not the case just 2 years ago.
relux - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Although I’m not as over-the-top about disliking Windows, I also experienced the calculator no longer working around Windows 10 1903.It’s worth noting that Server 2016, 2019, and 2022 Datacenter are all available for free to students and faculty with a .edu email address through Azure, and I find these to be faster and more stable than the mainline Windows releases.
However, on desktop systems with more than 64 logical processors, it’s worth noting that much otherwise “embarrassingly parallel” binary software cannot make use of the hardware due to Windows processor groups (and by extension the fact that legacy programs are not processor group aware). If these programs cannot be compiled again due to missing dependencies, etc. then Linux is the only viable option for exploiting this hardware. So, while Linux is a failure in the desktop market as you say, the underlying system is much more scalable than Windows has proven to be thus far.
coburn_c - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Yeah it's a lot easier to break backwards compatibility when you don't really have any functionality worth saving.Threska - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Virtualization and VFIO are still a thing. One can gain the advantages of both OS.flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
How's 2022 datacenter?relux - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I haven’t had any major issues with it so far (for desktop use to be clear). Virtualization through HyperV is slightly faster (running on one Epyc 7742). CPU compute performance is slightly higher than Server 2019 Datacenter, yet slightly lower than Server 2016 Datacenter (and much lower than Debian or Clear Linux). I’m not seeing any change in IO performance with Optane or NAND storage. Lots of security options that look like they’d hurt performance though. Overall it’s more of the same.cc2onouui - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
Well I'm with you on the fact that android is a complete garbage compared to windows, Linux on the other hand is only a failure on a adoption, the OS have nothing to do, DirectX "and" MS support for windows apps developers is an important key factor, no matter what a superior Linux you build the users will not give up their games and apps library, games developers rarely consider Linux, the shitty android has a big store you can't ignore, a device with android installed is a shame on a compute machine, Apps stores density decides what share an OS will take, most people will buy even Xbox "one" instead of a cheaper PS5 if PS5 has only one gameDolda2000 - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
>Ever since mobile came around, any semblance of real computing went out the window and it's like nobody even noticed.I realize this may sound elitist, but if you were relying on GUI programs, you were always using dumbed-down computing. If anything, I've been having more of the feeling that developers have started realizing that more and more, adopted their GUI stuff accordingly, and left the real computing to people who are comfortable with the edifices of real computing with command-line interfaces, editing config files or registry entries, programmatic interfaces, &c&c.
As someone who has always live in that world, I've only noticed "realm computing going out the window" as a thing in my peripheral vision, and I kinda understand why developers do it that way. It's just focusing the proper resources where they're needed.
AnnonymousCoward - Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - link
Microsoft doesn't give a shit about user experience. If they did, everything would open instantly, you'd be able to customize UI's including font sizes, and you'd be able to resize the Teams window to be as small as you want. They only seem to prioritize the experience of their own developers.rmfx - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
It looks amazing! Finally good tastes in a Windows UI.Now, time to refresh all the crap that is not visible to the end-user as well.
philehidiot - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Hey, I rather like finding Windows 3.11 or NT remnants....Nah, you're right, it's dogshit. If it wasn't for a single bit of expensive hardware with no Linux support, I'd be on Linux right now. Instead, I get to have lots of VMs and wonder what might have been.
I do have a Windows 95 VM. It's genuinely horrific realising how responsive Windows 95 was Vs the wading through treacle that is Windows 10. I might bring back Windows RG.
GeoffreyA - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Right up till XP and Server 2003, things were quite fast. Vista is where the treacle got pumped in.yetanotherhuman - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
It's true. Windows 7 helped a bit (mostly with regards to graphics performance and memory usage) but since then it's been nothing but bloatTheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
7 was also helped by the explosion in powerful hardware. Vista came out in 2006. 7 in 2009. Larger pools of system memory, DDR2, early DDR3, high clocked dual core Core 2s and athlons and video cards with higher core counts and memory speed had replaced the widespread 64MB or less GPUs, pentium IV CPUs, and 512MB memory pool systems vista was trying to be loaded on.7 really doesnt run well on the configs that vista didnt run well on either.
GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
I think the secret of 7 was actually the greater polish, sanding away Vista's rough edges. Colours were noticeably toned down, there was translucency for maximised windows, bigger min/max/close buttons, rotating wallpaper, the glorious animation on the Start menu pearl, a taskbar worth its weight in gold, faster booting. It's these little touches, that last 1%, that took it into excellence Vista never reached. Yet Vista did most of the hard work.alpha754293 - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
XP WAS good. But I just tried to virtualise XP with a quad-core processor, and XP could recognise multiple cores in multi-socketed systems, but if I set my XP VM with 4 cores from my Core i7-8559U, XP doesn't know what to do with it (though I wished that it did).XP WAS fast, but with its age, also shows its limitations as well.
GeoffreyA - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
XP has aged considerably but it'll go down in history as a classic. Possibly the best Windows ever made.Oxford Guy - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
‘t looks amazing! Finally good tastes in a Windows UI.’A superficial coat of paint doesn’t justify a new OS, especially one that bans high-performance highly-relevant hardware.
Oxford Guy - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
‘So it raises the question: Why now?’MS wants to see if it can copy Apple’s extreme planned obsolescence routine, one-upping the company by making it more egregious.
High-performance hardware is being banned so MS and hardware vendors can shake people down.
Windows 11 does not offer enough value to be a product for consumers. It’s a product by and for MS, with the company betting that passivity will ge enough — which, of course, it will.
Both companies have insanely high valuations precisely because consumers are so passive. They’ll trade value for laziness over and over again.
GeoffreyA - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I had been thinking about giving 11 a try, but of late am just not interested any more. Windows 10 works all right, so why create more headache? And 11 seems ambitious of following in the illustrious footsteps of Vista and 8.Silver5urfer - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Simple - MONEY.Intel has new BS biglittle copycat on x86 to combat the AMD and Apple processors and they have a huge say in the x86 world simply because of how their Server Marketshare is, 90%+ And now note how Win11 SAC is no more, it's AC, basically Win10 is Semi Annual Channel releases and Win11 abandoned it for Annual releases. A big relax for the MS, yeah users are beta testers for a long time but this helps them and that secures their new Win11 licensing systems.
Now there might be a question why the new systems and all, x86 products that Intel sells are more in Laptop BGA trash ware not DIY, and Servers are top ofc. With these new thin and light devices selling in volumes, remember how Chrome OS and Chromebooks had a huge boost ? People are getting dumber and dumber so they are fine with yearly trash refreshes of Smartphones for $1000 and same for laptops, shiny new toy.
And finally Windows team at M$ was abandoned long back in 2018 itself, the guy who was at MS responsible for the division was laid off and then Office / Cloud teams took over it, they started adding without any direction, which became the abomination called Win10 a mish mash of garbage new UI and solid Win32 both shoved together. M$ wants to get rid of all that baggage, so they made Panos Panay the dumb idiot who barely even knows what is an OS as head because Surface garbage to combat Apple tablets and other touch screen ecosystem. Remember this is highest volume of x86 shipments.
Ultimately because of that new UI was made, watch the video of the fools who worked on it, basically when MS orphaned Windows team internally it was fractured heavily with all that Win10X Windows S and other garbage so the reason why it looks so garbage and anti desktop because the people who worked on the management and directing this dumpster which kills all Taskbar behavior and so many Win32 features removed are simply and they all are addicted to Apple mediocrity and poor dumb UX, that bled to Win11 UX. But Nadella focus is to make money, so they had the Xbox Gamepass and others, which is why the Store had a revamp and massive focus to make it centralized Win32/UWP repo, Windows have decentralized system of software distribution which makes it superior to Linux in my eyes, no BS dependencies to download or anything, simply can be found on internet due to Win32 flexibility.
Final piece of puzzle TPM, why ? Again money, Intel and AMD and other OEMs can mint money due to the offloaded cost to Consumer citing new DRAM DDR5, Big little marketing (Intel) and others and get Win11 licensing, on top their entire Office suite is as a Service, basically everything is as a service. They even announced the DaaS. Now the TPM, with Win10 extensive propaganda level push GWX, forced updates on everyone and constant spying and nagware MS got all the data they need for NSA and Patriot Act in US and world wide data mining. Who controls the data controls the world - MS, Amazon, Google, Apple, FB the giant goliaths. So now they do not need the old husk of machines simply break them officially by introducing the TPM hard requirement. It's using Secure Boot and TPM when both combine Windows Defender can even scan the BIOS, check Defender ATP page, they give this exact requirement to get BIOS scanning. Oh also they will abandon CSM on BIOS side, it was scheduled for 2020 got delayed, now I bet no Z690 and X670 boards will have CSM anymore, more UEFI licensing by MS, no more Windows 7. Plus TPM gets them even more data and control. Win11 home doesn't even work without MS Account.
This POS dumpster OS should be avoided by any sane person. Win10 is better esp if you can get hands on LTSC and debloat it to basics, there's a new 2021 LTSC also coming for Win10 stick to the Win10 it's better. Win11 RTM will be broken garbage and there's absolutely no need to install it either.
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I agree with most of this. In a few places I had no clue what you were talking about, but it sounds about right. Microsoft is just some company from the 90s, it makes no sense that they should have a global monopoly on operating systems or their user interface.I like the Windows interface. They have billions of dollars. They can improve it, make it work faster, better, more organized, and add more features. They are in a perfect position to do something good, but they just don't want to.
GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
I think this is a pattern with Microsoft: a disappointing OS, followed by a first-rate one. ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10. By this logic, Windows 12 should be worthy of applause.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
But 10 was a major dissapointment for most. 11 shoudl have been the good one.GeoffreyA - Thursday, October 7, 2021 - link
I hated then grew fond of 10 after using it at home, aided by customisation and keeping "Settings" locked up in the attic.Gigaplex - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I've been using Windows 11 for a while now on my HTPC. Running on a 4K screen from several metres away, I have to use 200% UI scaling for the text to be readable. No big deal, right? Turns out the Start Menu doesn't seem to support UI scaling properly, and the OS is doing the crappy upscaling method and makes it look really blurry.flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
UI scaling is just one of the many many things that don't work out of the box. There is no reason why.coburn_c - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Windows 8 was better than this detritusRaistlinZ - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Unless you like having functionality taken away from you, I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade.Rookierookie - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
"Do you want to use a browser other than Microsoft Edge? Well, you can, but it is far more work to change the default than it used to be."Remember when anti-trust was a thing? #neveragain
flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
It's hard for people to admit that we're entering another dark age. These companies are not regulated in almost anything they do.Hulk - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
Less customization? Thanks but I'll pass. I spend enough time getting Windows 10 "straight" after a fresh install. Now that's gonna be more time consuming and difficult? What are they thinking?flyingpants265 - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
"What are they thinking?" They're thinking they want millions of people to start repeating the words "Windows 11" aloud like trained dogs. If you actually believe they're trying to improve the operating system for you and me, that's a fundamental error, there is no reason for them to do that.Oxford Guy - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
'They're thinking they want millions of people to start repeating the words "Windows 11" aloud like trained dogs.'Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
This 100%.
griffin_short - Monday, October 4, 2021 - link
I still don't get it. Windows 10 should allow the customization options to achieve this look instead of launching a whole new OS. If all they have to advertise is the almost-no-change-UI, and all benchmark testing has shown essentially no difference between W10 & W11, then WHY RELEASE IT? I just don't see a mass migration to W11 if there's no real upgrade. Makes 0 sense. Sounds like Apple marketing and release to me and that's not a good direction for companies like Microsoft.Peter2k - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Gotta remember the Windows 10 credo back then"Windows everywhere"
Means PC, XBOX and phones
Since that failed I guess the new direction is to clamp down on security
While you could have all the security on 10, 11 is enforcing it
Guess they try to go after big business bucks
I'm on a first Gen Ryzen, not gonna upgrade just because I could force it
For what really
It looks a bit prettier, and sounds a bit prettier
That isn't weigh for me as a private person to upgrade the OS, and especially not to build a new rig
Personally I think the getting "Windows crammed into everything anywhere " isn't this generations motto at all
It's more, take it or leave it
Also keep in mind Windows terrible history/cycle
One OS is great, next one is trash
Hasn't been broken yet
While 11 might not be trash, it could very well be under performing for adoption
griffin_short - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Exactly. Just release a massive UI overhaul for Windows 10 rather than launching a whole new OS.dullard - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
EcoQoS and enhanced PowerThrottling API are why. Just about every Windows 11 app was recompiled for lower power usage compared to Windows 10, this will be especially true when Alder Lake comes out.croc - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
They REALLY NEED to get a better typeface....The current one is too 'light' for weaker eyes to not have to strain, causing some to have headaches after LONG usage times.The loss of Win 10's start-up 'groups' can be solved by making folders and copying (or creating) shortcuts inside. For instance, a folder called 'Office' with the various shortcuts inside.
Really, this is more about new paint as it is about a better OS
beginner99 - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
The fact you can't change the taskbar location is just one small things about how the taskbar is now almost useless and productivity will be heavily impacted.Like the claimed improved multi-monitor support but yet the new taskbar only show the clock on the primary monitor which when in full screen-mode means no clock visible. It's a 1 step forward 2-steps back situation really.
voicequal - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
I'm guessing they'll add the taskbar location option, since almost every Win11 article seems to mention it as a deficiency. This seem like a minimum viable product. Time will tell how fast features will be added to fill in the rough spots.damianrobertjones - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Installs Windows 11 onto a Surface Book. Installs applications while changing a few configuration options. launches applications. Continues as normal.No issues here. Then again, I'm not LOOKING for a reason to moan and complain. It still does what it should do (mostly).
incanter - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
If your Surface Book had 16:9 screen, you might be more tolerant to "moans and complaints" about inability to move taskbar to the side of the screen, then again, maybe you do not have to work with the structured text the whole day long...haplo602 - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Hmm ... not being able to move the task bar is a big negative for me ... I may be one of the few people that used that feature, but for years (since windows 2k) my desktop layout was centered around having the taskbar on the right side of the screen.I hope somebody will program an extension that will allow this.
incanter - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
You are, definitely, not alone -- a lot of people who work with the structured text (e.g code) value every pixel of the vertical real estate. This said, it is certainly less of an issue on Microsoft devices with 3:2 screen aspect ratio...dullard - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Those people that value vertical real estate always turn around and by short-screen monitors. They are called wide-screen, but really just have the top vertical pixels chopped off and they charge more for that service.dullard - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
*buy* not *by*emgarf - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
No Start menu icon groups or folders. For those of us with a multi-use PC (in my case it's schematic design and printed circuit board layout, video and audio production, photography, gaming), removing those Start menu organizational features would have a real impact.Windows 10 doesn't force people to use those organizing methods - it's idiocy to remove them as a choice.
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Any choice consumers had in 10 is being sandblasted off. You'll use 11 the way redmond wants you to.Meteor2 - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
Seems a year too early to me. Given where we are in the x86 product cycle and the chip shortages, combined with the maximum cpu age restrictions, releasing something that has a main purpose of driving new device sales right now seems premature.Plus, moving the start button out of the bottom left corner. That's going to hurt.
GeoffreyA - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
I wonder which genius at Redmond thought of that.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, October 5, 2021 - link
"Tablet Mode is now gone as well, so if you liked to use Windows 10 in its more touch-friendly mode, you will likely be disappointed."So is MS just giving up on tablets, giving surface users the middle finger? Why even bother with the metro/modern/whateverTF they call it interface change if they just go and abandon tablet mode?
GraXXoR - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
I cloned my SSD and installed Windows 11 update... Apartfrom CFOSpeed network data shaping tool (which has been of limited utility beyond monitoring internet connections and download speeds) I have found no issues.5900x and 3080RTX on gigabyte X570 Aorus Master...
No issues to report. Installed the latest MB bios with TPM2 support. Enabled it. Set the update to run. went to bed. checked my computer the next morning and it was installed.
Plays nicely with grub and my Mint 20.2 installation which I was concerned with what with TPM 2 and all. Interface is more consistent and seemingly refined than W10 and when you remove the "increase spacing" touch bollocks setting, everything is fine.
One noted improvement is with my 42:9 UW monitor. My Samsung Odyssey G9 now plays well with G-Sync (something was borked under W10) and the new full screen tiling feature is a godsend on this ridiculous aspect ratio'd beast. And it seems to play nicely with my secondary monitor
Downside?
The menu is stuck at the bottom which is silly at this aspect ratio and I miss the clock on my secondary monitor's start bar.
I also miss the more functional start menu which has become little more than a glorified right click menu... But TBH, I usually use windows plus search to launch my software anyway.
All in all a drama free update. Will keep my old W10 clone just in case something pops up.
The only reazson I still have this is for games that use anti cheat and have no linux support.
alpha754293 - Monday, October 11, 2021 - link
I would love to be able to try it out, but if TPM 1.2 is a minimum, HARDWARE requirement, then it'll be a while before I will be able to give Win11 a shot.AnnonymousCoward - Wednesday, October 13, 2021 - link
Sounds like Win11 is DOA.Wake me up when Microsoft lets users customize the UI and prioritizes responsiveness with minimal input lag. They have 182,000 employees and can't grasp the most common sense of basic concepts!
Oxford Guy - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
Responsiveness and increased ‘telemetry’ are at odds.GeoffreyA - Saturday, October 16, 2021 - link
"Wake me up when Microsoft lets users customize the UI"I reckon what's going on is a larger shift in thinking across the world, where "orthodoxy" prevails, and when I say orthodoxy, I mean the current idea of what's good, best, or accepted. Certain [x] is the way it is, and anything else is frowned upon. From this mode of thinking, this intolerance towards other points of view, comes an almost despotic control; and in computer terms, we end up with lack of customisation like we had in the old days. (Today is a far cry from the whimsical days of Plus 98.) Instead, they choose what's good for us, ironically with a great deal of lip-service concerning "choice."
rahulghose - Thursday, March 17, 2022 - link
I really hope they keep backwards compatibiltyrahulghose - Thursday, March 17, 2022 - link
https://blog.rghose.in/2022/03/share-keyboard-mous...gtopcar - Sunday, April 24, 2022 - link
2022 Isuzu MU-X has a braked towing capacity of 3500 kg and an unbraked towing capacity of 750 kg.