I realize that, as you move from consumer to to professional to enterprise, things take longer to validate... but I'm hoping to start seeing some more Phison E18 designs than continuing to see new drives come out with E16.
I was looking at a chart where it was showing market share in SSD market. Seagate was non existent with only 0.7% market share. The only reason that chart haven't thrown Seagate in the "Others" section, was Seagate's brand recognition, or maybe the makers of that chart wanted to laugh at Seagate by showing it's insignificance in the SSD market.
Now I see why. 3 years of warranty, "only" 5GB/sec when it is using and it will be marketed as a PCIe gen 4.0 SSD, when others go up to 7GBs/sec and probably a high price because "We are Seagate, you know us".
True enterprise NVME drives are well over $200 or more per TB for current drives, not 2 or 3 generations old. I’m sure these will be priced accordingly.
"The 3-year complimentary DRS provides data recovery services for accidental data corruption or drive damage"
How is that going to work on a m.2 SSD? They're infamous for being difficult to recover data from. No platters to take out and scan, no relationship between data location and physical location. Controller remaps blocks willy nilly.
Some shops can put the SSD into factory mode (if it's not physically damaged) for data recovery but it takes a great deal of time at great expense. I suspect the 'free' data recovery scheme consists of receiving the SSD, punting it straight into the bin, and saying 'Sorry we couldn't recover it, but if it's in warranty, here's a new one.'
SSDs in NAS sounds great, except for the face that small NAS units that could benefit from SSDs are stuck at 1 Gbps. We need some dual 10 Gbps or thunderbolt NAS units.
This makes it even more perplexing why they bothered with PCIe 4.0, other than maybe because that's what the market seems to expect. For NAS usage, it should be preferable to save power & costs with a PCIe 3.0 interface. Nobody is going to notice the performance difference, even over a 10 Gbps Ethernet connection!
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commenter001 - Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - link
IronWolf? More like Creepy IronZombieDogMrCommunistGen - Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - link
I realize that, as you move from consumer to to professional to enterprise, things take longer to validate... but I'm hoping to start seeing some more Phison E18 designs than continuing to see new drives come out with E16.yannigr2 - Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - link
I was looking at a chart where it was showing market share in SSD market. Seagate was non existent with only 0.7% market share. The only reason that chart haven't thrown Seagate in the "Others" section, was Seagate's brand recognition, or maybe the makers of that chart wanted to laugh at Seagate by showing it's insignificance in the SSD market.Now I see why. 3 years of warranty, "only" 5GB/sec when it is using and it will be marketed as a PCIe gen 4.0 SSD, when others go up to 7GBs/sec and probably a high price because "We are Seagate, you know us".
yannigr2 - Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - link
Ah, it's 5 years. Good to have read that wrong the first time. Still it will be expensive.artspret - Saturday, October 2, 2021 - link
True enterprise NVME drives are well over $200 or more per TB for current drives, not 2 or 3 generations old. I’m sure these will be priced accordingly.Tomatotech - Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - link
"The 3-year complimentary DRS provides data recovery services for accidental data corruption or drive damage"How is that going to work on a m.2 SSD? They're infamous for being difficult to recover data from. No platters to take out and scan, no relationship between data location and physical location. Controller remaps blocks willy nilly.
Some shops can put the SSD into factory mode (if it's not physically damaged) for data recovery but it takes a great deal of time at great expense. I suspect the 'free' data recovery scheme consists of receiving the SSD, punting it straight into the bin, and saying 'Sorry we couldn't recover it, but if it's in warranty, here's a new one.'
TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, September 22, 2021 - link
SSDs in NAS sounds great, except for the face that small NAS units that could benefit from SSDs are stuck at 1 Gbps. We need some dual 10 Gbps or thunderbolt NAS units.mode_13h - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
This makes it even more perplexing why they bothered with PCIe 4.0, other than maybe because that's what the market seems to expect. For NAS usage, it should be preferable to save power & costs with a PCIe 3.0 interface. Nobody is going to notice the performance difference, even over a 10 Gbps Ethernet connection!Supercell99 - Thursday, September 23, 2021 - link
0.7DWPD seems a little low for NAS device. I suppose depends on how much writes you plan and if there is a zlog etc. Might be an issue for some.