As a PS5 and Xbox Series X owner... Chips for the PS5/Series X is wasted capacity, we need more PC GPU's... Not Console chips that games can't take advantage of yet.
Always a tough spot for FPGA based solutions. Xilinx is always looking for bigger markets but once they are that big it is almost always worth moving to an ASIC.
The problem they have is not related to performance. Even if FPGAs can provide whooping x70 performance boost(theoretically) compared to GPU, it's not useful if there's no supporting ecosystem. When you're using GPU for AI, you're not alone. But FPGA, you're alone. That's what Intel is struggling with OneAPI.
Xilinx has developed a command-line Os interface, and has an app store, along with a motherboard built for it and a dev kit. For like $300, servethehome covered it recently.
They are probably going to do this again for this product. The barebones of yesteryear FPGA's is diappearing. You can download license plate scanners, facial recognition, etc. and just code what you want it to do with that data.
Hard to believe that’s going to get traction. It’s still a dev kit and still a toy no matter how you market it. If you need to do inference you’re going to have many options with hard accelerators that are going to have much better performance than an FPGA.
You use an FPGA because you have an application that is specialized, so you’re still going to need developers specializing in HDL. Fundamental building blocks have been available in vendor IP libraries for years and it’s never changed the use case for an FPGA.
So the question is 'who can help me' when the problem occurs. When you're working with NVIDIA solutions, you can go to NVIDIA dev home and ask questions. You are not alone. Developer community is one of the fundamental blocks of semiconductor in fact. Without it, you'll be blocked by every trivial matters and project will fail.
those bits and pieces of software help but at the end of the day it's still you and an FPGA, a bunch of bugs, and a support forum with some useless bot-employees who will just post a link to the FAQ instead of reading your actual question.
‘Edge devices’ that can update their own hardware and functionality. We’re on the path to the devices of either Iain Bank’s Culture or something a bit darker.
I could see this being used in the communications space, especially cellular and 5G. The one field that needs bug and security fixing as well as standards changes.
Its not like 4G radios aren't already mostly a beefy FPGA and a beefy ADC/DAC, SDR(and cheap SDR) came from hardware made in part to implement 4G comms.
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jeremyshaw - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
> Helping solve the silicon shortagePaper launch, in the most literal sense.
GhostOfAnand - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Worse still, they used ARM cores instead of going RISC-V.jospoortvliet - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
Old ones, A72... coming in 2022... pfft.BedfordTim - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
Compare a future product with old ones and lo and behold it is better. I suspect Zync have a new and improved product as well.shabby - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
"all built on TSMC’s 7nm processes"Stop wasting tsmc's capacity, you're not helping!
SarahKerrigan - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
"Wasting"?shabby - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
Yes wasting, their capacity would be better served making ps5's 😂shing3232 - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
FPGA are use to design and testing new chips. What are you talking about?StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
As a PS5 and Xbox Series X owner... Chips for the PS5/Series X is wasted capacity, we need more PC GPU's... Not Console chips that games can't take advantage of yet.Spunjji - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
I don't think anybody who cares about high-end desktop / mobile computing will mind them making these products on 7nm in 2022...flgt - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
Always a tough spot for FPGA based solutions. Xilinx is always looking for bigger markets but once they are that big it is almost always worth moving to an ASIC.diediealldie - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
The problem they have is not related to performance. Even if FPGAs can provide whooping x70 performance boost(theoretically) compared to GPU, it's not useful if there's no supporting ecosystem.When you're using GPU for AI, you're not alone. But FPGA, you're alone. That's what Intel is struggling with OneAPI.
Fataliity - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Xilinx has developed a command-line Os interface, and has an app store, along with a motherboard built for it and a dev kit. For like $300, servethehome covered it recently.They are probably going to do this again for this product. The barebones of yesteryear FPGA's is diappearing. You can download license plate scanners, facial recognition, etc. and just code what you want it to do with that data.
flgt - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Hard to believe that’s going to get traction. It’s still a dev kit and still a toy no matter how you market it. If you need to do inference you’re going to have many options with hard accelerators that are going to have much better performance than an FPGA.You use an FPGA because you have an application that is specialized, so you’re still going to need developers specializing in HDL. Fundamental building blocks have been available in vendor IP libraries for years and it’s never changed the use case for an FPGA.
diediealldie - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
So the question is 'who can help me' when the problem occurs. When you're working with NVIDIA solutions, you can go to NVIDIA dev home and ask questions. You are not alone.Developer community is one of the fundamental blocks of semiconductor in fact. Without it, you'll be blocked by every trivial matters and project will fail.
SarahKerrigan - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
Or, you know, you just contact your FAE and they help you with what you need to do. Like every other embedded product.Murloc - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
those bits and pieces of software help but at the end of the day it's still you and an FPGA, a bunch of bugs, and a support forum with some useless bot-employees who will just post a link to the FAQ instead of reading your actual question.maxc7777 - Thursday, June 10, 2021 - link
By 2022, it will have zenlike 3D cache as well, go from 4MB on chip to 32MB on chipboozed - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
Okay but how exactly does this solve the silicon shortage?eva02langley - Friday, June 11, 2021 - link
If you read the article, you would understand that XILINX Versal is using 3 time less silicon for providing a better solution for the auto industry.With AMD in the picture, you can bet that the future will implement a full ecosystem with their semiconductor product families.
Threska - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
It's still a crunch, and just going to a newer node which everyone and their dog seems to want to jump onto doesn't help.Tomatotech - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
‘Edge devices’ that can update their own hardware and functionality. We’re on the path to the devices of either Iain Bank’s Culture or something a bit darker.Threska - Saturday, June 12, 2021 - link
I could see this being used in the communications space, especially cellular and 5G. The one field that needs bug and security fixing as well as standards changes.keeepcool - Thursday, June 17, 2021 - link
Its not like 4G radios aren't already mostly a beefy FPGA and a beefy ADC/DAC, SDR(and cheap SDR) came from hardware made in part to implement 4G comms.Yorsky - Saturday, January 15, 2022 - link
So many old gamers came back to WoW, this actually made me very happy, to see old people coming back is priceless. For the Horde! https://wormateio.club