you can turn it off and change the colour piece, it is fine, the entire point of this laptop is that it is thicker and allows the higher TDP for the GPU, if you want a thin non gamer one you buy Dash or Tuf or Zephyrus
This product is marketed to kids and gamers. So I get why there is no webcam, for adults that actually have to do video conferencing with clients and people at work this isn't the laptop for you. Best to choose something else.
Your comment doesn't make any sense. Kids and gamers can also be students, and students need cameras for meetings. Adults can be gamers, etc. There's no point in buying a separate laptop just for for online meetings.
Yeah good luck participating in group work sessions and doing homework on a phone LMFAO. Maybe if you’re a student who doesn’t GAFits work, but most schools require you to use something with a keyboard
Maybe some of them, but most of them don't. You know how I know that? They need to present their work by sharing the screen, usually on zoom. Yes, I have seen it lots of times. Now, are you going to tell me that students use pen and paper (only) for school work?
I don't understand the issue of the webcam not being present. You know you could use multiple devices for teams and zoom right? I use my desktop to see my conference call slides and groups, while using my phone to record my video and audio - it's pretty seamless, and I would say quality is either equivalent or better than a super cheap pair of speakers connected to the desktop. Furthermore, you could just use headphones with integrated mics, connected either to the phone or computer... ...
Phone for meeting? No thanks. I'd have to find a way to prop it up so it's stable. And most remote proctoring software requires a webcam on the computer you're using to take the test
Odds are anybody streaming with this or in need of a webcam, an integrated webcam wouldn't be of sufficient quality anyway. Integrated webcams are generally garbage because the bezel and lid are so thin and there isn't space to fit a multi-lens arrangement. Though this laptop might be an exception I suspect the lid is quite thick. A lot of laptops that try to use this thin bezel approach put a webcam under the screen, but in practice its more appropriately a 'neck' cam.
@Beaver M. - This is exactly what bugs me. I'm a grown-ass adult, I want my laptop to do everything from games to work, but you can't get *literally* everything all in one device and a sacrifice has to be made somewhere. For me, I'd rather have a device that performs well and doesn't blast my ears off and needs an external webcam than have one with a crappy cam and crappy cooling, which describes the majority of this device's price competitors.
Fxckk video conferencing, I keep my camera off even on zoom or google meet. If your face is too important for the meeting then they are giving an additional camera for you to put it in front of you.
I am not saying for personal calls... I use my laptop for work as well and we do have video calls with colleagues where we share stuff from the laptop. That won't work if we use phones.
capitalism nonsense. oh you want to game on your laptop? here's a gaming laptop, also look at it's "coolness". also, gamer don't need webcam anyway, buy our dedicated laptop for your daily office task!
seriously I like to game but I don't like the ridiculous design of a gaming laptop. plain and boring is fine, thanks.
@edwpang And how. Hell, I got a £20 1080p cheapo webcam a few years back after switching back from a laptop to a desktop. It has a flexible stand that means I can clip it to the top of any display or stand it on a handy surface. It's not exactly smartphone quality, but the light gathering ability of its chunky lens is still superior to every built-in webcam I've ever used. I'll happily break it out of storage if the need arises.
"nobody needs a crappy webcam". Just speak for yourself. I do work on play on my laptop and I DO need a built-in webcam - crappy or not. We're talking about laptop that costs 2k USD and to not have something so basic like a webcam is just ridiculous. And keep your dumb comments about using phone for calls to yourself as you have no clue.
It's not AMD.. It's ASUS weird thing with AMD laptops, the G14 & G15 both with AMD have no webcam, the M16 (Intel) has a webcam.
I don't know how ASUS is thinking. But I would very much have a G16 with a 5800, RTX 3060/3070 in a thin chassis (18mm or less), two SO-DIMM slots (or at least 16GB soldered and one SO-DIMM), a 16" 1600p 120Hz+ with 400nits +, a webcam with IR for Windows Hello. Not a gaming machine but a content creation laptop.
Yes, this. A content creation mobile workstation with the same CPU + GPU as this model but with a good webcam, a 1440p or 4k touch-capable screen would be amazing.
This kind of hardware is often send from reviewer to reviewer, no? And those stickers seem to be positioned under your wrist. So, if you use it intensely, I can imagine your wrist would push them outward a little? They áre only stickers, which is glue + some form of paper/plastic. And glue has the tendency to become fluid under pressure/temperature. No?
2.28 kg (5.05 lbs), although the power brick and cables add .73 kg (1.6 lbs) to that (understandable for a 230W unit.
You could carry a lightweight usb-c brick to work around that, with 2 secs of googling found a 100W charger that weighs 200g - would suffice for everything but gaming (and combined with the battery and the silent power profile you could still squeeze in a good couple of hours of gaming)
With 100W of power going in, you could probably get near-indefinite gaming by activating a frame limiter like Radeon Chill and reducing detail levels. 60fps at 1080p should be attainable with less than 50% of the GPU's rated TDP, and the CPU can hit those rates at a 15W power level.
What a great idea. I suppose you mean that one would have to charge the laptop before doing this and then have a super slow discharge on the 100W adaptor...
If you drop the details down a bit and/or set the frame cap close to the lower end of the variable refresh rate, I suspect you could probably even see some (very) slow charging and still get an experience that beats a GTX 1650. All hypothetical though, would love to see someone test this!
I don't understand why there are no webcams with Asus + AMD laptops. This is a bad decision considering more and more companies are allowing remote work and most likely most people are going to use a single laptop for gaming/work/personal use.
Also, though it's primarily a gaming laptop, 16:9 displays should go away for good. Industry pushed these displays on consumers, not that consumers wanted them.
Well, which variable do you keep fixed? Width / screen diagonal? Yes, obviously the screen of 3:2 is greatly superior because it has extra vertical pixels. But most forger that you pay for that with a bigger and heavier laptop (also more expensive) - so, this is a tradeoff. A viable one, but not a clear "16:9 doesn't make sense". Add those extra vertical pixels and your 15" is about as large and heavy as a 17" one. If you take screen area as the fixed variable, 3:2 means a better screen for work, worse for movies. And a smaller keyboard.
This isn't like standalone screens where all aspect ratios cost the same and don't have any negative side effects (once you set screen on your desk you don't tend to move it often)
well at least they include external webcam on my scar 15 AMD 5000 series + Nvidia 3070. The worst part is we can't disable optimus for laptop in 2021, but this laptop is always ready stock in my country, unlike the Lenovo, MSI, Omen (at least in my country).
a special case, then. but it's not solely AMD issue. as Asus gaming laptop with Intel chip doesn't sport webcam. except than one you mentioned or older model, that is.
Using a phone as webcam is still far superior to a webcam, though. A webcam is really only useful when travelling, when setting up a phone webcam isn't feasible. There are plenty of webcam apps available, and they can connect over USB or wifi. I really don't see the appeal of a shitty integrated webcam anymore
Too bad these machines have no way to add an external webcam if you need one. As we all know, webcams are super bulky and could never fit in a laptop bag along with the charger.
Laptop bags famously never have separate pockets for that...
Seriously though, the same criticism applies to any laptop that has a charger brick - or an external mouse, which is basically mandatory on any machine used for work.
True. Whoever designs these bags, and even some backpacks, often seems to skip the user testing. When I was able to travel with my laptop, I always took my charger and a mouse with me.
Mate, literally over the last five or so years the electronics bag scene has exploded with options. Even before then there was an enormous selection of bags with more pockets than any sane person would know what to do with.
@Tams80 - if that reply was to me, I should stress that I was being sarcastic. Every laptop bag I've ever owned, from cheapo £20 jobs to a ridiculous £150 masterpiece I bought once, has had at least a few pockets for whatever stuff you might happen to be carrying - mice, headphones, smartphones, second laptop, games console (really), personal massagers (not really), etc.
Agree. They are leaving potential sales on the table; but then, right now is a seller's market. However, omitting a 3-5 dollar webcam is a deal breaker for me. Too bad, specs look great.
If it's a deal breaker you are not in the camp this machine is intended for. Webcams are a nuisance, true remote workers get laches fitted over them or tape over them so they don't spoil all hands meetings.
1. Laptops like these are not primarily work machines. People buy them to play games. 2. External webcams almost always have compact mounting options built-in. 3. Where are all these people going to to do their video calls that an external webcam would be a problem?
I thought companies issue laptops are locked down and would not let you install games in the first place. And this heavy power hungry machine is not really a good fit for students. Webcam is definitely not needed on this. Don't even see a reason for trackpads.
I agree that a "shitty integrated webcam" doesn't have much appeal. However, I would like a decent webcam in my laptop. If you have to or want to host a video call or conference, doing so from your smartphone can suck quite badly; most platforms won't let you use a virtual background, or, even worse, what if you want to screen share? I know some people use an app to use their smartphone's cameras as their webcam. But, this is a "hard core" gaming laptop, so I might not be the customer they are thinking of. Well, some of us do things besides gaming on our machines.
I still prefer a dedicated webcam I can keep in my bag. Where I work, webcams and mics arent allowed except for in specific areas. We have to ensure theyre dosabled and put those thin strip lens covers on. If Im on the go, ie airport. Phone/zoom/earbuds.
I agree that, for integrated webcams, a slider or (better) an actual hardware disconnect, also for the microphones, would be preferable. Neither works without electric contacts.
I'm almost positive I read the laptop offers an HDMI and DP (USB-C) output, for external monitors/TVs one would presume--too bad the reviewer here forgot to test a 1440P external monitor--which is likely considering the target market for this monitor. The reviewer kept talking about the absence of a web cam and a limit of 1080P (which doesn't exist) as if either was an insurmountable design flaw--oh, gee, I guess thinking just a little bit out of the box is difficult for people these days. He could have tested with an external monitor at > 1080P--and if he looked hard enough he might even have found one with a built-in web cam. Do tell. But that would have prevented the negative observations, I guess--so we can't have that, eh? BTW, 1080P is nice indeed when you are running on batteries--but I guess that was a bit too obvious to get his attention. Many, many people with laptops plug them into the wall at home and attach monitors/TVs/ whatever else they might want. No sense in writing a review which pretends otherwise.
It matches a 3070 most closely in pricing, performance sits in the range of high-TDP 3070 models and low-to-medium-TDP 3080 models. Apparently it's held back a little by RAM that has slow timings - with that resolved, it's right up there with the 3080.
Nice review, but I would have liked to see a bit more details on the GPU side of things, that is some 4k comparisons with rtx 3080, since that is the target competitor. I look forward to see how the 6600m fares. If that is similar or better than 3060, I could give it a shot.
Nice to see AMD back in the game. For the keyboard, I have one of these ASUS laptops (with a 3080) for work, and the position of the F keys really annoys me. As a programmer I use them quite a bit, and because they're shifted by 1 for the first four (F1 is above 2, F2 above 3, etc.) and half for the next four, I keep hitting the wrong one.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing what the 6600M brings to the table, and if it could provide reasonable gaming performance on battery with a bit of battery life. A smaller gaming laptop that's still reasonably capable would be very nice.
I love this thing to bits. I wish there was a way to control the charge rate though, since pushing that crazy amount of power through the battery cannot be good for the long term. I guess you can limit the charge rate by using USB-PD but 100W means you can only slow down the discharge of the battery rather than actually charge it... Amazing product. ASUS' work on the cooling system is commendable too. Up till now I've seen that they do not compromise on size if they feel it will affect the cooling performance. Now they've delivered cooling performance even after downsizing. As an aside, my sisters' ASUS FX553VD suffered two major hardware issues during her ownership for which the authorised service outlet asked for INR50k+ to fix. I luckily found a guy who does low level repair and we managed to avoid buying a new laptop. Hopefully that was a solitary incident...
Can you guys PLEASE review the recently announced Huawei Matebook 16? I think it is the first time that a 45w H series CPU (5800H) is used in a laptop without pairing it with a power hungry dGPU, which is exactly what I have been looking for.
If you use games in your benchmark that do not require much gpu horse power then you'll conclude that running at 1080p creates a cpu bottleneck. If your were to use more gpu demanding titles, the gpu would get to stretch its legs. Some of the more demanding games I play on my 3080 laptop are barely above 60fps using the highest settings @ 1080p. Imagine what the situation would be like at 2k. I'd rather being cpu bottle necked @1080p (while still over 60fps) than having to push 2k or higher and experience sub 60 on more demanding titles. People say that games look fine when you run 2k displays at 1080p. To me that looks horrible.
Not interested into anything not 1440p, IPS, 144Hz, top color accuracy and Freesync... AMD promised that on stage yesterday... WTH does Asus smoke...!!!???
Even you guys admit that ASUS SCREWED up not going 1440p. How awesome... ASUS was already on my blacklist for the disaster the G73JH-A1 was... but this is just ridiculous, they are joke as system implementer. They proved it by their incompetence.
"AMD targets the Radeon RX 6800M at 2560x1440, and for good reason. As we have seen, in pretty much every title, it is completely CPU bound at 1920x1080, even with the newest Ryzen 9 5900HX as the processor. The synthetic tests, as well as the UHD resolution results, really prove this point.
Although there is certainly a market where the 1920x1080 resolution is desired for the lowest latency, in this system, that panel is really too low of a resolution for such a powerful GPU, and it becomes wasted money spent."
Well, i just realized that there is a 1440p panel also... however this 1080p version should not even exist. A 1440p panel resolution can be scaled to 1080p if required... so what is the point? 300Hz??? In optimal gaming scenario at 300Hz constant, you gain 4ms of response.
As a comparative, 4ms is the equivalent of ONE FPS.... from 250Hz-251Hz... only idiots will defend this stupidity.
Ah, I made a mistake in the calculation. The difference is more in the realm of 50 FPS at a 120Hz basis. So basically, 120Hz to 170Hz is the same amount of time from 144Hz to 300Hz.
Makes more sense. But still, 50Hz from 120Hz is worth the same than 144Hz to 300Hz. Meaning those 50Hz are worth those 156Hz. This is because FPS are not a linear factor and a ratio.
Perhaps the next generation of gpus will have enough power to render even the most demanding titles at 2k60 baseline, at which point I'll happily embrace 2k laptop displays. Native 1080p,to me, looks much better than 1080p on a 2k display. Personally I prefer a lower res native display so that I can crank up the quality settings. Once I'm over 60fps, it does not matter if I'm cpu bound or not. I'm not going to lower a native 2k display to 1080p to get 60fps.
I initially thought: ooh, real home, pageup, pagedown, and end keys... But nope, the right column is media playback control keys, and those text cursor control keys are hidden behind Fn.
Competition is the best thing for the consumer. Doubt I'll get an AMD system (I'm a video editor who uses quicksync) but happy to see them doing so well.
I'm confused with these GPU tests. Comparisons to the competition at only 1080p? Only this laptop's performance at 4K (no comparisons)? 3DMark Fire Strike - which is *eight* years old now; and no Time Spy or Port Royal? 3DMark total score and not GPU score?
If not for all the bribe money that Intel spends to prevent companies from building high end AMD laptops, AMD would own the laptop market based on performance. Asus has always taken the bribe money so don't expect them to embrace AMD significantly be it in laptops or desktop mobos.
Shut up and take my flatmate's money! He's got an MSI Raider with a 2080 (probably the same model in the comparison charts), and the whole flat agrees it's obnoxiously loud, even at idle. I'm going to show him this review tomorrow and tell him to sell the MSI and buy this as soon as it's available. Saying this as someone who has a (much quieter, somewhat thicker) MSI myself.
Aside from the fact that my ears really want one of these in the house, it looks pretty nice in general. The fingerprint magnets are unfortunate, but otherwise it would very likely be in the running if I were in the market for a new laptop... or even just a powerful GPU in general. I'm excited to see AMD offer such a complete package, and at a reasonable price. The battery life for a gaming laptop is especially impressive. Gotta iron out those WiFi goblins though, I'd probably use it on Ethernet 85-90% of the time, but few things are more aggrieving in a computer than spotty WiFi.
This reviews proves the point that PC makers should really consider giving a higher resolution monitor for a high end laptop. Its pointless to give a 1080p with very high refresh rate because the GPU will easily be bottlenecked by a mobile CPU. Also the high refresh rate, i.e. 300Hz, is equally if not more taxing on the battery than say a 1440p monitor with a 144Hz refresh rate.
In my opinion full HD for 15.6-inch screen is sufficent (If it was 17-inch that is a different story). And you still have enough horsepower if you connect external LCD.
You are blind. I can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 3k on a 15.6" laptop. 1080p has never been sufficient. Never will be. 1440p should be the minimum standard. Period.
And the entire point of a gaming laptop is so you can use it on trips, not so you can lug a 30" 4k display around to plug into it to compensate for the god awful screen that it comes with.
Sure, you can tell if you start looking for it, it in normal use and especially while playing a game you are very unlikely to notice. You are going to notice not hitting high framerates though.
@Tams80 - I'll second the "easily" comment, although the flip side is claiming that 1080p has "never" been sufficient is obviously nonsense, it was good for a while. For me, 1440p at 150% scaling is instantly recognisable as better than 1080p at 100% on the same display size, though.
With a GPU / CPU pairing like this, frame rates are going to be near-identical between 1080p and 1440p in most extant titles.
Back in The Dark Ages, when we were confined to a single planet by gravity, reviewers would publish the mass (or weight, if we were grounded) of the reviewee. For normal systems, we can use forklift to move the thing, but for supposedly "mobile" systems, knowing the thing's mass is something we need to know before making a purchase decision.
I dreamed about all AMD setup remembering times from my old 2c athlon @2.2ghz + radeon x1950pro. I worked all summer to earn only 20% to buy this pc. All summer and even sold every possible thing and dumped my gf. Pc was a beast. On agp. When all my friends were on Intel and nvidia at a Time on pcie. My system was older but games run smoother. I sold my Last setup week ago for 530eur with i5 4570 + gtx1070. My offline gamer days ended that Day. I have like 1000eur in savings for next pc that will be a laptop, but all i can get is 10750+1660. In plastic shell with 8y old lcd Tech and realy old cpu + super low bin gpu. Like really. 8year old lcd panel and cpu only generation++ better than my old desktop.
Have a look at the Dell G5 SE. You should be able to afford a model with at least a 6-core CPU and a 144Hz display. The chassis is plastic crap and you'll need to re-paste the cooler, but in return you'll get RTX 2060-level performance for less than your 1000 Euros. It's not going to be a lot faster than that GTX 1070, though. If you really want better than that, you'll need to either save up some more or wait for the RX 6600M models to arrive.
I hope ASUS update their X13 Flow to have this as an option. I doubt it tough.
As for a built-in webcam being a must these days... why? People are hardly moving about a lot and external webcams offer better quality (and peace of mind privacy wise as you can just unplug them).
That's not to say that having a built-in webcam isn't preferred or handy. It is, but it really shouldn't be the issue so many make it out to be.
"If you build it they will come" is accurate for my situation. I searched and searched and could not find what I wanted so I had to settle for something else. What I wanted was a laptop that has a 5900HX, a 3080 with 16GB, and a 17-inch display. I found several candidates with two or three out of the four but none with all four. I ended up going with one that has an Intel 8-core CPU and the other three attributes. I work with CUDA so an Nvidia GPU is mandatory and lots of video memory is also needed. I definitely would have preferred the AMD CPU but I can't complain too much because it's a really nice machine. The GPU has more cores than any other in the building which is rather amusing since it's a laptop.
Spelling and grammar errors (I didn't check the conclusion):
"They key caps provide a slight bit of traction as well,... "The" not "They": "The key caps provide a slight bit of traction as well,..."
"Keyboard lighting, at least on this model is four zone RGB, which is always a bit odd." Missing comma: "Keyboard lighting, at least on this model, is four zone RGB, which is always a bit odd."
"The surface is very smooth, although like the laptop finish, it is very susceptible to fingerprints as well, so quickly looks grimy." Run on sentance: "The surface is very smooth, although like the laptop finish, it is very susceptible to fingerprints as well. So it quickly looks grimy."
Really disappointed with ASUS . I went ahead buying this laptop reading the above sort of Articles ROG Strix G513QC_G513QC laptop which is brand new and just a month old is giving a battery life of 2 to 2.5 hours with 6 to 7 chrome windows opened and no software's installed . Thats is really really pathetic from what is given in the article .
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Chaitanya - Monday, May 31, 2021 - link
Too much RGB nonsense on what otherwise looks like a good laptopAlistair - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
you can turn it off and change the colour piece, it is fine, the entire point of this laptop is that it is thicker and allows the higher TDP for the GPU, if you want a thin non gamer one you buy Dash or Tuf or ZephyrusFlunk - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
ASUS does also sell less stupid-looking gaming laptops. The ROG Zephyrus G15 as one example.Teckk - Monday, May 31, 2021 - link
What’s with laptops with AMD processors not having webcam?When is RGB too much … This is cringe level already.
Alistair - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
nobody needs a crappy webcam, use your phone for video calls, this is for younger people that seem to get thatAlistair - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
i do want a built in microphone sometimes thoughMakaveli - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
This product is marketed to kids and gamers. So I get why there is no webcam, for adults that actually have to do video conferencing with clients and people at work this isn't the laptop for you. Best to choose something else.RomanPixel - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I second this.SL2 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Your comment doesn't make any sense. Kids and gamers can also be students, and students need cameras for meetings. Adults can be gamers, etc.There's no point in buying a separate laptop just for for online meetings.
Alistair - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
and students use their phones for meetingsTheinsanegamerN - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
Yeah good luck participating in group work sessions and doing homework on a phone LMFAO. Maybe if you’re a student who doesn’t GAFits work, but most schools require you to use something with a keyboarderotomania - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
It's a two device setup that's being discussed here. Work on the laptop (or desktop, or tablet with keyboard), and zooming/conferencing on the phone.iSeptimus - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Obviously not very important meetings.SaturnusDK - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Seriously, have you guys never heard of the Your phone companion app?SL2 - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
Maybe some of them, but most of them don't. You know how I know that? They need to present their work by sharing the screen, usually on zoom. Yes, I have seen it lots of times.Now, are you going to tell me that students use pen and paper (only) for school work?
Sushisamurai - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
I don't understand the issue of the webcam not being present. You know you could use multiple devices for teams and zoom right? I use my desktop to see my conference call slides and groups, while using my phone to record my video and audio - it's pretty seamless, and I would say quality is either equivalent or better than a super cheap pair of speakers connected to the desktop. Furthermore, you could just use headphones with integrated mics, connected either to the phone or computer... ...pattiobear - Friday, June 18, 2021 - link
Phone for meeting? No thanks. I'd have to find a way to prop it up so it's stable.And most remote proctoring software requires a webcam on the computer you're using to take the test
Samus - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Odds are anybody streaming with this or in need of a webcam, an integrated webcam wouldn't be of sufficient quality anyway. Integrated webcams are generally garbage because the bezel and lid are so thin and there isn't space to fit a multi-lens arrangement. Though this laptop might be an exception I suspect the lid is quite thick. A lot of laptops that try to use this thin bezel approach put a webcam under the screen, but in practice its more appropriately a 'neck' cam.Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Those below-screen cams are worse than no webcam at all. It's a ridiculous position and definitely not suitable for professional calls.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
More like a 'nose' cam.Really not a fan of seeing up people's noses.
Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Or just get a decent webcam like a real adult...Beaver M. - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
Ya, becuz adultz dont pleh gamez. dah.Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
@Beaver M. - This is exactly what bugs me. I'm a grown-ass adult, I want my laptop to do everything from games to work, but you can't get *literally* everything all in one device and a sacrifice has to be made somewhere. For me, I'd rather have a device that performs well and doesn't blast my ears off and needs an external webcam than have one with a crappy cam and crappy cooling, which describes the majority of this device's price competitors.Ariz - Saturday, October 8, 2022 - link
Fxckk video conferencing, I keep my camera off even on zoom or google meet. If your face is too important for the meeting then they are giving an additional camera for you to put it in front of you.pukemon1976 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
Microphone on a hardware switch?StevoLincolnite - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I used my Webcam and Mic on my current notebook all the time during COVID lookdown, doing study and training via Zoom/Teams etc'.Srikzquest - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I am not saying for personal calls... I use my laptop for work as well and we do have video calls with colleagues where we share stuff from the laptop. That won't work if we use phones.sharathc - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Then go buy a laptop made for office use. This is a gaming laptop.RomanPixel - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Here here!Srikzquest - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
When did it became a rule that webcams shouldn't be there for a Gaming laptop and why can't I use a single laptop for gaming/work and personal use?TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
So I can’t have office work and games on the same machine? I have to have two separate laptops?What nonsense is this?
Fulljack - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
capitalism nonsense. oh you want to game on your laptop? here's a gaming laptop, also look at it's "coolness". also, gamer don't need webcam anyway, buy our dedicated laptop for your daily office task!seriously I like to game but I don't like the ridiculous design of a gaming laptop. plain and boring is fine, thanks.
Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Nobody's preventing you from buying a decent webcam and using it with your gaming laptop.edwpang - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
Exactly! Those 1080p Logitech webcams are much better than built-in ones!Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
@edwpang And how. Hell, I got a £20 1080p cheapo webcam a few years back after switching back from a laptop to a desktop. It has a flexible stand that means I can clip it to the top of any display or stand it on a handy surface. It's not exactly smartphone quality, but the light gathering ability of its chunky lens is still superior to every built-in webcam I've ever used. I'll happily break it out of storage if the need arises.Beaver M. - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
ya. becuz peeps shudnt pleh gamez on deir work machins and nevr do anywayz.Ugh. Enough lost IQ points for today, just to think like you guys.
RC1900 - Saturday, August 7, 2021 - link
"nobody needs a crappy webcam". Just speak for yourself.I do work on play on my laptop and I DO need a built-in webcam - crappy or not. We're talking about laptop that costs 2k USD and to not have something so basic like a webcam is just ridiculous. And keep your dumb comments about using phone for calls to yourself as you have no clue.
snarfbot - Thursday, March 10, 2022 - link
I mean to me the absence of a Webcam is a feature. Its a refreshing and welcome change.Xajel - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
It's not AMD.. It's ASUS weird thing with AMD laptops, the G14 & G15 both with AMD have no webcam, the M16 (Intel) has a webcam.I don't know how ASUS is thinking. But I would very much have a G16 with a 5800, RTX 3060/3070 in a thin chassis (18mm or less), two SO-DIMM slots (or at least 16GB soldered and one SO-DIMM), a 16" 1600p 120Hz+ with 400nits +, a webcam with IR for Windows Hello. Not a gaming machine but a content creation laptop.
nico_mach - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I'm sure what Asus is thinking is that they got a discount from Intel for screwing around with their AMD laptops.serendip - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
Yes, this. A content creation mobile workstation with the same CPU + GPU as this model but with a good webcam, a 1440p or 4k touch-capable screen would be amazing.GPUs aren't just for gamers.
Rookierookie - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
Many Asus Intel gaming laptops are missing a webcam as well (e.g. the 2020 ROG Strix SCAR with Intel). It's just an Asus thing, not AMD or Intel.Alistair - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
i want the thinnest top bezel instead of a camera, personally10basetom - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
I've heard of AMD + no TB, but AMD + no WC is a new one 😁.Manch - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Is it me or are the stickers off kilter?RamarC - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
yes they are crooked and i wonder why...Timoo - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
This kind of hardware is often send from reviewer to reviewer, no?And those stickers seem to be positioned under your wrist.
So, if you use it intensely, I can imagine your wrist would push them outward a little?
They áre only stickers, which is glue + some form of paper/plastic. And glue has the tendency to become fluid under pressure/temperature. No?
eek2121 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I didn’t see a weight mentioned.Mil0 - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
2.28 kg (5.05 lbs), although the power brick and cables add .73 kg (1.6 lbs) to that (understandable for a 230W unit.You could carry a lightweight usb-c brick to work around that, with 2 secs of googling found a 100W charger that weighs 200g - would suffice for everything but gaming (and combined with the battery and the silent power profile you could still squeeze in a good couple of hours of gaming)
Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
With 100W of power going in, you could probably get near-indefinite gaming by activating a frame limiter like Radeon Chill and reducing detail levels. 60fps at 1080p should be attainable with less than 50% of the GPU's rated TDP, and the CPU can hit those rates at a 15W power level.ads295 - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
What a great idea. I suppose you mean that one would have to charge the laptop before doing this and then have a super slow discharge on the 100W adaptor...Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
If you drop the details down a bit and/or set the frame cap close to the lower end of the variable refresh rate, I suspect you could probably even see some (very) slow charging and still get an experience that beats a GTX 1650. All hypothetical though, would love to see someone test this!GeoffreyA - Tuesday, June 8, 2021 - link
Interesting idea!Srikzquest - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I don't understand why there are no webcams with Asus + AMD laptops. This is a bad decision considering more and more companies are allowing remote work and most likely most people are going to use a single laptop for gaming/work/personal use.Srikzquest - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Also, though it's primarily a gaming laptop, 16:9 displays should go away for good. Industry pushed these displays on consumers, not that consumers wanted them.Zizy - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
Well, which variable do you keep fixed?Width / screen diagonal? Yes, obviously the screen of 3:2 is greatly superior because it has extra vertical pixels. But most forger that you pay for that with a bigger and heavier laptop (also more expensive) - so, this is a tradeoff. A viable one, but not a clear "16:9 doesn't make sense". Add those extra vertical pixels and your 15" is about as large and heavy as a 17" one.
If you take screen area as the fixed variable, 3:2 means a better screen for work, worse for movies. And a smaller keyboard.
This isn't like standalone screens where all aspect ratios cost the same and don't have any negative side effects (once you set screen on your desk you don't tend to move it often)
m00bee - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
well at least they include external webcam on my scar 15 AMD 5000 series + Nvidia 3070. The worst part is we can't disable optimus for laptop in 2021, but this laptop is always ready stock in my country, unlike the Lenovo, MSI, Omen (at least in my country).Fulljack - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
all Asus gaming laptop doesn't have webcam anymore, now. both the that uses Intel or AMD CPU.Srikzquest - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
The newly released Zephyrus m16 (Intel CPU) has a webcam and 16:10 display.Fulljack - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
a special case, then. but it's not solely AMD issue. as Asus gaming laptop with Intel chip doesn't sport webcam. except than one you mentioned or older model, that is.Retycint - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Using a phone as webcam is still far superior to a webcam, though. A webcam is really only useful when travelling, when setting up a phone webcam isn't feasible. There are plenty of webcam apps available, and they can connect over USB or wifi. I really don't see the appeal of a shitty integrated webcam anymoreAlistair - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
100 percent agreegrant3 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
It is basically mandatory to have a webcam on any machine used for work. Even pre-covid.The inexplicable lack of webcam on a laptop is basically telling people it can never be used for any professional purpose.
Spazosaurus - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Too bad these machines have no way to add an external webcam if you need one. As we all know, webcams are super bulky and could never fit in a laptop bag along with the charger.eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Or you try to stuff it in and your webcam breaks and scratches your laptop in transport.Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Laptop bags famously never have separate pockets for that...Seriously though, the same criticism applies to any laptop that has a charger brick - or an external mouse, which is basically mandatory on any machine used for work.
eastcoast_pete - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
True. Whoever designs these bags, and even some backpacks, often seems to skip the user testing. When I was able to travel with my laptop, I always took my charger and a mouse with me.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
Mate, literally over the last five or so years the electronics bag scene has exploded with options. Even before then there was an enormous selection of bags with more pockets than any sane person would know what to do with.Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
@Tams80 - if that reply was to me, I should stress that I was being sarcastic. Every laptop bag I've ever owned, from cheapo £20 jobs to a ridiculous £150 masterpiece I bought once, has had at least a few pockets for whatever stuff you might happen to be carrying - mice, headphones, smartphones, second laptop, games console (really), personal massagers (not really), etc.eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Agree. They are leaving potential sales on the table; but then, right now is a seller's market. However, omitting a 3-5 dollar webcam is a deal breaker for me. Too bad, specs look great.pSupaNova - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
If it's a deal breaker you are not in the camp this machine is intended for. Webcams are a nuisance, true remote workers get laches fitted over them or tape over them so they don't spoil all hands meetings.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
1. Laptops like these are not primarily work machines. People buy them to play games.2. External webcams almost always have compact mounting options built-in.
3. Where are all these people going to to do their video calls that an external webcam would be a problem?
pSupaNova - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
I thought companies issue laptops are locked down and would not let you install games in the first place. And this heavy power hungry machine is not really a good fit for students. Webcam is definitely not needed on this. Don't even see a reason for trackpads.eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I agree that a "shitty integrated webcam" doesn't have much appeal. However, I would like a decent webcam in my laptop. If you have to or want to host a video call or conference, doing so from your smartphone can suck quite badly; most platforms won't let you use a virtual background, or, even worse, what if you want to screen share? I know some people use an app to use their smartphone's cameras as their webcam. But, this is a "hard core" gaming laptop, so I might not be the customer they are thinking of. Well, some of us do things besides gaming on our machines.pSupaNova - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
Do it on another machine or get a webcam this is optimised for gaming. Get over itvlad42 - Sunday, June 6, 2021 - link
People don't like to waste their money buying separate machines for work and play. Get over it.Manch - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I still prefer a dedicated webcam I can keep in my bag. Where I work, webcams and mics arent allowed except for in specific areas. We have to ensure theyre dosabled and put those thin strip lens covers on. If Im on the go, ie airport. Phone/zoom/earbuds.eastcoast_pete - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
I agree that, for integrated webcams, a slider or (better) an actual hardware disconnect, also for the microphones, would be preferable. Neither works without electric contacts.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
And how many of those employees are moving their laptops around much?Very few, I'd imagine. So they could easily get by with a better quality external webcam.
Not that many businesses are going to be buying laptops like this for their employees.
wr3zzz - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
12GB of VRAM in a 1080P machine with 16GB of DRAM...WaltC - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
I'm almost positive I read the laptop offers an HDMI and DP (USB-C) output, for external monitors/TVs one would presume--too bad the reviewer here forgot to test a 1440P external monitor--which is likely considering the target market for this monitor. The reviewer kept talking about the absence of a web cam and a limit of 1080P (which doesn't exist) as if either was an insurmountable design flaw--oh, gee, I guess thinking just a little bit out of the box is difficult for people these days. He could have tested with an external monitor at > 1080P--and if he looked hard enough he might even have found one with a built-in web cam. Do tell. But that would have prevented the negative observations, I guess--so we can't have that, eh? BTW, 1080P is nice indeed when you are running on batteries--but I guess that was a bit too obvious to get his attention. Many, many people with laptops plug them into the wall at home and attach monitors/TVs/ whatever else they might want. No sense in writing a review which pretends otherwise.bejito81 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
why is this not compared with a RTX G15 (3070 or 3080 (the one matching the price the closet)) ?Ryan Smith - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
AMD only sampled the AMD system. They did not sample the NVIDIA systems.Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
It matches a 3070 most closely in pricing, performance sits in the range of high-TDP 3070 models and low-to-medium-TDP 3080 models. Apparently it's held back a little by RAM that has slow timings - with that resolved, it's right up there with the 3080.yeeeeman - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Nice review, but I would have liked to see a bit more details on the GPU side of things, that is some 4k comparisons with rtx 3080, since that is the target competitor.I look forward to see how the 6600m fares. If that is similar or better than 3060, I could give it a shot.
Alistair - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
actually the AMD laptop is cheaper than the 3070 version, it beats all in performance per dollarET - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Nice to see AMD back in the game. For the keyboard, I have one of these ASUS laptops (with a 3080) for work, and the position of the F keys really annoys me. As a programmer I use them quite a bit, and because they're shifted by 1 for the first four (F1 is above 2, F2 above 3, etc.) and half for the next four, I keep hitting the wrong one.Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing what the 6600M brings to the table, and if it could provide reasonable gaming performance on battery with a bit of battery life. A smaller gaming laptop that's still reasonably capable would be very nice.
ads295 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I love this thing to bits.I wish there was a way to control the charge rate though, since pushing that crazy amount of power through the battery cannot be good for the long term. I guess you can limit the charge rate by using USB-PD but 100W means you can only slow down the discharge of the battery rather than actually charge it...
Amazing product. ASUS' work on the cooling system is commendable too. Up till now I've seen that they do not compromise on size if they feel it will affect the cooling performance. Now they've delivered cooling performance even after downsizing.
As an aside, my sisters' ASUS FX553VD suffered two major hardware issues during her ownership for which the authorised service outlet asked for INR50k+ to fix. I luckily found a guy who does low level repair and we managed to avoid buying a new laptop. Hopefully that was a solitary incident...
supdawgwtfd - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Get a 65w charger.No more worries about "to faster charging"..
You know that technology improves over time right?
It might be strange but things get better over time...
What used to be "oh my this is really bad" is now "it's fine".
ads295 - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Using a 65W charger on a system that draws over 230W at the wall?isthisavailable - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Can you guys PLEASE review the recently announced Huawei Matebook 16? I think it is the first time that a 45w H series CPU (5800H) is used in a laptop without pairing it with a power hungry dGPU, which is exactly what I have been looking for.https://www.gsmarena.com/the_huawei_matebook_16_br...
supdawgwtfd - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
But one. Send it in.damianrobertjones - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Why would you hit a laptop with your face?StuntFriar - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
Comments like this are why we need a "like" button...Spazosaurus - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
If you use games in your benchmark that do not require much gpu horse power then you'll conclude that running at 1080p creates a cpu bottleneck. If your were to use more gpu demanding titles, the gpu would get to stretch its legs. Some of the more demanding games I play on my 3080 laptop are barely above 60fps using the highest settings @ 1080p. Imagine what the situation would be like at 2k. I'd rather being cpu bottle necked @1080p (while still over 60fps) than having to push 2k or higher and experience sub 60 on more demanding titles. People say that games look fine when you run 2k displays at 1080p. To me that looks horrible.nico_mach - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I can't believe there's a GPU shortage but these gaming laptops are still getting built?meacupla - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
maybe it's because laptop GPUs use cut down dies and has more chips per wafer?Alistair - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
actually laptops are a great way to ensure your gaming GPU reaches a gamer instead of a miner, it's like an automatic "bundle"Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Why? The laptop market is huge. It would make just as much sense to ask the opposite questioneva02langley - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Frigging ASUS... AMD said 1440p display for their high end CPU/GPU combos... BUNCH OF IDIOTS ASUS!eva02langley - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Not interested into anything not 1440p, IPS, 144Hz, top color accuracy and Freesync... AMD promised that on stage yesterday... WTH does Asus smoke...!!!???eva02langley - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Even you guys admit that ASUS SCREWED up not going 1440p. How awesome... ASUS was already on my blacklist for the disaster the G73JH-A1 was... but this is just ridiculous, they are joke as system implementer. They proved it by their incompetence."AMD targets the Radeon RX 6800M at 2560x1440, and for good reason. As we have seen, in pretty much every title, it is completely CPU bound at 1920x1080, even with the newest Ryzen 9 5900HX as the processor. The synthetic tests, as well as the UHD resolution results, really prove this point.
Although there is certainly a market where the 1920x1080 resolution is desired for the lowest latency, in this system, that panel is really too low of a resolution for such a powerful GPU, and it becomes wasted money spent."
eva02langley - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Well, i just realized that there is a 1440p panel also... however this 1080p version should not even exist. A 1440p panel resolution can be scaled to 1080p if required... so what is the point? 300Hz??? In optimal gaming scenario at 300Hz constant, you gain 4ms of response.As a comparative, 4ms is the equivalent of ONE FPS.... from 250Hz-251Hz... only idiots will defend this stupidity.
eva02langley - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Ah, I made a mistake in the calculation. The difference is more in the realm of 50 FPS at a 120Hz basis. So basically, 120Hz to 170Hz is the same amount of time from 144Hz to 300Hz.Makes more sense. But still, 50Hz from 120Hz is worth the same than 144Hz to 300Hz. Meaning those 50Hz are worth those 156Hz. This is because FPS are not a linear factor and a ratio.
Spazosaurus - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Perhaps the next generation of gpus will have enough power to render even the most demanding titles at 2k60 baseline, at which point I'll happily embrace 2k laptop displays. Native 1080p,to me, looks much better than 1080p on a 2k display. Personally I prefer a lower res native display so that I can crank up the quality settings. Once I'm over 60fps, it does not matter if I'm cpu bound or not. I'm not going to lower a native 2k display to 1080p to get 60fps.Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
This GPU isn't going to have any problems rendering any modern titles in 1440p at more than 60fps - at least, not unless you use RT...DanaGoyette - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I initially thought: ooh, real home, pageup, pagedown, and end keys... But nope, the right column is media playback control keys, and those text cursor control keys are hidden behind Fn.I guess I'm sticking with my HP Omen.
Pacinamac - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Competition is the best thing for the consumer. Doubt I'll get an AMD system (I'm a video editor who uses quicksync) but happy to see them doing so well.jenesuispasbavard - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
I'm confused with these GPU tests. Comparisons to the competition at only 1080p? Only this laptop's performance at 4K (no comparisons)? 3DMark Fire Strike - which is *eight* years old now; and no Time Spy or Port Royal? 3DMark total score and not GPU score?ksec - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Why did they not call it Amdvantage is beyond me.Makste - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Breath taking implementation. Swap the screen, I'll deal with the lack of webcam, I want this laptop.TOV - Tuesday, June 1, 2021 - link
Have you changed the RAM and test it again? Jarrod's tech test result +20% after he changed them.Techie2 - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
If not for all the bribe money that Intel spends to prevent companies from building high end AMD laptops, AMD would own the laptop market based on performance. Asus has always taken the bribe money so don't expect them to embrace AMD significantly be it in laptops or desktop mobos.ToTTenTranz - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
Why is the supposed GPU test page comprised of a bunch of CPU limited scenarios?ExarKun333 - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
Why is this being compared to such old laptops? Why no 3080s with different TDPs and 10/11 gen Intel + ryzen 3000?IBM760XL - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
Shut up and take my flatmate's money! He's got an MSI Raider with a 2080 (probably the same model in the comparison charts), and the whole flat agrees it's obnoxiously loud, even at idle. I'm going to show him this review tomorrow and tell him to sell the MSI and buy this as soon as it's available. Saying this as someone who has a (much quieter, somewhat thicker) MSI myself.Aside from the fact that my ears really want one of these in the house, it looks pretty nice in general. The fingerprint magnets are unfortunate, but otherwise it would very likely be in the running if I were in the market for a new laptop... or even just a powerful GPU in general. I'm excited to see AMD offer such a complete package, and at a reasonable price. The battery life for a gaming laptop is especially impressive. Gotta iron out those WiFi goblins though, I'd probably use it on Ethernet 85-90% of the time, but few things are more aggrieving in a computer than spotty WiFi.
boidsonly - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
I've been wanting an all AMD laptop for a while now but never felt they were ready for prime time until now. If I can find this at MSRP I will buy it.FakThisShttyGame - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 - link
I wish they remove the screen and keyboard and keep this thin for my next gaming desktopDoofusOfDeath - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
Anyone know if the 2560x1440 panel will be brighter? I'm looking for a laptop that's usable in a semi-outside setting, and max 300 nits isn't ideal.Brett Howse - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
The QHD is rated at the same 300 nits.DoofusOfDeath - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
Thanks, and bummer. Do you remember where you found that info? I was having trouble hunting down the specs.Brett Howse - Sunday, June 13, 2021 - link
It was in the reviewer's guide AMD sent.watzupken - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
This reviews proves the point that PC makers should really consider giving a higher resolution monitor for a high end laptop. Its pointless to give a 1080p with very high refresh rate because the GPU will easily be bottlenecked by a mobile CPU. Also the high refresh rate, i.e. 300Hz, is equally if not more taxing on the battery than say a 1440p monitor with a 144Hz refresh rate.BlakeCz - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
In my opinion full HD for 15.6-inch screen is sufficent (If it was 17-inch that is a different story). And you still have enough horsepower if you connect external LCD.inperfectdarkness - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
You are blind. I can easily tell the difference between 1080p and 3k on a 15.6" laptop. 1080p has never been sufficient. Never will be. 1440p should be the minimum standard. Period.And the entire point of a gaming laptop is so you can use it on trips, not so you can lug a 30" 4k display around to plug into it to compensate for the god awful screen that it comes with.
Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
'Easily' my arse.Sure, you can tell if you start looking for it, it in normal use and especially while playing a game you are very unlikely to notice. You are going to notice not hitting high framerates though.
Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
@Tams80 - I'll second the "easily" comment, although the flip side is claiming that 1080p has "never" been sufficient is obviously nonsense, it was good for a while. For me, 1440p at 150% scaling is instantly recognisable as better than 1080p at 100% on the same display size, though.With a GPU / CPU pairing like this, frame rates are going to be near-identical between 1080p and 1440p in most extant titles.
Bernecky - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
Back in The Dark Ages, when we were confined to a single planet by gravity, reviewerswould publish the mass (or weight, if we were grounded) of the reviewee. For normal
systems, we can use forklift to move the thing, but for supposedly "mobile" systems,
knowing the thing's mass is something we need to know before making a purchase decision.
Robert
Hrel - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
In this age and at that price a 512GB SSD is totally inexcusable.Hrel - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
And no webcam...Spunjji - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Man, wait 'til you see how much Intel / Nvidia laptops with the same performance cost!Oxford Guy - Friday, June 25, 2021 - link
QLC, too, I’ll bet.inperfectdarkness - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
This is 2021. It should be illegal to put a 1080p screen in anything other than a smartphone. That resolution was surpassed 20 years ago.GeoffreyA - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Twenty years ago, I was using 800x600 on my 15" monitor. DVDs, too, were "very high resolution" at 720x480/576.GeoffreyA - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
Using a 900p monitor at present. No complaints.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
Oh, so tell us why 1080p isn't perfectly acceptable for a display this size...Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
Your hyperbole reminds me of the commenter on another tech site who routinely calls 60% sRGB displays "Hitler".Oxford Guy - Friday, June 25, 2021 - link
60% sRGB should be banned.Nikijs89 - Friday, June 4, 2021 - link
I dreamed about all AMD setup remembering times from my old 2c athlon @2.2ghz + radeon x1950pro. I worked all summer to earn only 20% to buy this pc. All summer and even sold every possible thing and dumped my gf. Pc was a beast. On agp. When all my friends were on Intel and nvidia at a Time on pcie. My system was older but games run smoother. I sold my Last setup week ago for 530eur with i5 4570 + gtx1070. My offline gamer days ended that Day. I have like 1000eur in savings for next pc that will be a laptop, but all i can get is 10750+1660. In plastic shell with 8y old lcd Tech and realy old cpu + super low bin gpu. Like really. 8year old lcd panel and cpu only generation++ better than my old desktop.Spunjji - Monday, June 7, 2021 - link
Have a look at the Dell G5 SE. You should be able to afford a model with at least a 6-core CPU and a 144Hz display. The chassis is plastic crap and you'll need to re-paste the cooler, but in return you'll get RTX 2060-level performance for less than your 1000 Euros. It's not going to be a lot faster than that GTX 1070, though. If you really want better than that, you'll need to either save up some more or wait for the RX 6600M models to arrive.Tams80 - Saturday, June 5, 2021 - link
I hope ASUS update their X13 Flow to have this as an option. I doubt it tough.As for a built-in webcam being a must these days... why? People are hardly moving about a lot and external webcams offer better quality (and peace of mind privacy wise as you can just unplug them).
That's not to say that having a built-in webcam isn't preferred or handy. It is, but it really shouldn't be the issue so many make it out to be.
Gomez Addams - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
"If you build it they will come" is accurate for my situation. I searched and searched and could not find what I wanted so I had to settle for something else. What I wanted was a laptop that has a 5900HX, a 3080 with 16GB, and a 17-inch display. I found several candidates with two or three out of the four but none with all four. I ended up going with one that has an Intel 8-core CPU and the other three attributes. I work with CUDA so an Nvidia GPU is mandatory and lots of video memory is also needed. I definitely would have preferred the AMD CPU but I can't complain too much because it's a really nice machine. The GPU has more cores than any other in the building which is rather amusing since it's a laptop.ballsystemlord - Tuesday, June 15, 2021 - link
Spelling and grammar errors (I didn't check the conclusion):"They key caps provide a slight bit of traction as well,...
"The" not "They":
"The key caps provide a slight bit of traction as well,..."
"Keyboard lighting, at least on this model is four zone RGB, which is always a bit odd."
Missing comma:
"Keyboard lighting, at least on this model, is four zone RGB, which is always a bit odd."
"The surface is very smooth, although like the laptop finish, it is very susceptible to fingerprints as well, so quickly looks grimy."
Run on sentance:
"The surface is very smooth, although like the laptop finish, it is very susceptible to fingerprints as well. So it quickly looks grimy."
R3Z3N - Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - link
The stickers gotta go, especially when aligned by 3rd world mentality of do it but not well.damianrobertjones - Saturday, July 31, 2021 - link
Is this the model that has rubbish ram that reduces performance across most tests? If so, did Anantech say anything about it?ckrishnachaitanya - Friday, December 10, 2021 - link
Really disappointed with ASUS . I went ahead buying this laptop reading the above sort of Articles ROG Strix G513QC_G513QC laptop which is brand new and just a month old is giving a battery life of 2 to 2.5 hours with 6 to 7 chrome windows opened and no software's installed . Thats is really really pathetic from what is given in the article .