Hope they soon manage to intergrate Thunderbolt / USB 4.0 as this in my opinion is the bigger current issue not being used for lots of premium Notebooks.
But yes not having to use a Intel WiFi is definetly a reasonable strategic step forward. Hope they manage their drivers well as this might be a make it or break!
AMD has a socket change coming with DDR5 on the horizon. It'd be wise to add that functionality then. Following AMD's current strategy, it could just be a new feature on the IO die as needed.
How many people are really using TB? Less than 1% of people who have a TB port?
I just hope DP 2.0 over USB-C will find it's way to many laptops because the problem with high-refresh 4k is going to get real once monitors are available.
DP1.3/1.4 or tunneling DP over TB/USB4 (max 40 gbps) won't be enough. Even HDMI 2.1 ain't capable of 240hz 4k. Just to put it out there: nobody likes DSC...
Look at gaming monitor trends. 120 hz won't cut it. Even the 144 - 165 hz class doesn't seem to be enough if we look at the new gaming monitors of last year.
Outside of competitive gaming, how important are refresh rates above 120 Hz? I would imagine that input latency would be a more important issue to tackle.
Outside of competitive gaming(that's a huge group of people nowadays) it's going to be about the ability to display 8k at 60 hz because many TV panels are already able to do that but there is no interface for that (only DP 2.0).
Samsung is selling more 8k TVs every year but only HDMI 2.1 maximum.
The thing is there is very little future for those 8K panels. There is a complete lack of content in 8k and almost none in 4k. Broadcast TV is never going to move beyond 1080P(there isn't spectrum for it) and it's highly unlikely that streaming providers will provide any significant content in either 4k or 8k due to the bandwidth, storage and processing requirements.
Samsung and the others are pushing 8K (and probably something bigger later) to try to drive TV sales but the reality is that once everyone's got a big screen flat TV they probably aren't going to keep buying them (and we've likely already reached that point in the US at least). It's no different than pushing 4k and 3D before that. 90% of content is 1080P or even 1080i at this point and it's unlikely to change.
But 120hz is a good thing, there is less eye strain with higher refresh rates. Just outside of specialized applications I don't see it being a selling factor that will ever draw consumer demand because most people can't tell the difference side by side.
For an arbitrary definition of "huge". There are an estimated 3bn gamers today. The *audience* for esports was less than 0.5bn in 2020 (a good year). Competitive gamers are an niche market, far from huge. And the number of people who can realistically tell the difference between 120Hz and 144Hz is vanishingly small. In the chase for big numbers so many buyers go for crappy TN screens because they have a lot of those hurtz things.
A lot of people drive a cars but only a few are "competitive drivers". There's no expectation that all cars should be super-sport.
"Samsung is selling more 8k TVs"
Sure, but they were selling plenty of curved TVs too. And 3D TVs before that. I understand the need to serve them with an adequate interface for what they want, no objection there. But it's fueled by people chasing big numbers. Most wouldn't know DSC if it hit them in the retina :).
Approximately 100% of the people I tested with (a lot, I can assure you) assumed the 8K TV was the one with more vivid colors. The same applied with 4K before it. And with the 1440p monitor many years ago.
Every movie editor, producer, content creator, and anyone that needs fast storage, 10Gb ethernet, multiple 5k displays, or 8k display, and daisy chaining capability. It's far more than the 1%. It is taking a long time to fill orders for TB4 docks due to demand.
Yes, that was the former Infineon GSM modem business. The WIFI business is different.
BTW Intel also sold their home WiFi business to maxlinear (chips for routers) because there is no money in that. They kept the client chips for strategic reasons
this might turn for the better or for the worse for amd. One is the situation of Intel where it makes the actual chip INHOUSE, whereas AMD is buying this from another company that it isn't known for its quality, so people might have to be obligated to swap their wifi cards to intel, cause amd doesn't want intel wifi cards, which are, lets face it, the standard in this business.
Agreed. It is not the same but what options do they have if they do not want to rely on Intel?
Buy MediaTek, Marvell or Realtek? I mean Realtek would be intresting for their LAN solutions etc. MediaTek and Marvell would be too big to swallow now after the Xilinx merger.
Broadcom was actually looking for a potential buyers of it's client WIFI/BT business and they are the best out there (at least for phones).
There is just no money in this business. AMD would be stupid if they would go after this market.
There are 4 leading edge client WIFI companies fighting over $5 chips in $8 modules: Broadcom, Quallcom, MTK and Intel (+maybe Samsung). Huawei was among them but they have problems with the US.
There will be further consolidation in the wifi chip business, eventually there will be 3 or less providers and prices will stabilize making the business profitable again. It's just which companies see the long term value at that point (or in the case of Intel the leverage of offering a complete platform).
There is no reason to do that. Even Intel is not doing CnVi for their AX210 at this time.
That was just for marketing (you probably know Intel). Even many smartphones opt for PCIe/USB chips now. Splitting baseband and analog made no sense from a technology point (for Intel) because the baseband part ain't even worth $1 of MCU/DSP...
As far as it goes, Mediatek bought Ralink's wireless business. They're actually one of the better manufacturers of wifi hardware right now. They provide one of the more popular platforms for Wifi 6 and 6E routers (which generally run Linux; they have been decent at getting wifi support into open-source kernels).
The unknown at this point is mostly what the quality of Mediatek's windows drivers for the wifi card is like.
I would expect your request to be matched Q1/2022 for APUs and Q3/2022 for Desktop CPUs.
Somehow I am curious about the Zen5 rumors with big.LITTLE AMD design. By then you could see an amazing hybrid cpu with a RDNA3 chiplet and maybe Infinity cache for the APU on 3nm.
Infinity Cache on RDNA2 is like L3 SRAM. I would like to see gigabytes of L4 cache stacked near CPU cores. Such as on top of the I/O die in current desktop designs.
As for the big.LITTLE rumor, you could make a list of features to lop off, like SMT, AVX-512 (AVX2?), cache sizes, and end up with a new Bobcat/Puma that's at least 50% smaller than a normal core. Then throw some amount of those on a chiplet or die. Coming out a couple years after Lakefield and Alder Lake, Windows and Linux will be better prepared for heterogeneous x86.
I agree on future chiplet / tiles designs and stacked memory. But not sure how fast this will be the case.
But yeah I can see custom APUs made from CPU chiplet or even differentv big / little chiplets + GPU chiplets + I/O + Memory + application specific ASIC/FPGA chiplets
I would hope for SVE2 like instructions on x86. It would be nice in general and probably also a solution for better big and small cores integration. We have seen all those as a single thing - yet it has to come all together.
I would expect with RDNA4 + Zen 6 latest for AMD and LunarLake for Intel. Maybe we are lucky and see it with MeteorLake and Zen5 before. Question is to what extend. However 2024/25 should be a reasonable expectation for a fully chiplet design chip being common.
Assuming AMD's bit.LITTLE design is based on the patents they have filed, it will be unlike any implementation of that chip style we have seen so far. In the patents they describe a system where the L1 cache is either shared or kept in lock-step between the little cores and the big cores. The big cores would have most of their transistors kept unpowered, except for the L1 and things needed to operate that. The little cores would be cut down and unable to process more power-hungry features. When something comes along that requires the big cores attention, it would power on, already have all the data it needs in the L1, run the instructions, then power off. To the OS there wouldn't be 2 cores, it would just see a single, full-featured core, all the juggling of data between the big and little cores would happen in silicon. If done right, it has the possibility of being incredibly powerful and flexible, much moreso that existing silicon. And it requires zero OS changes to work.
I know and you are correct - For now I do not think they separate big and small cores.
However in the long it might offer the highest flexibility.
They now have to start from somewhere and live with silicon, fab and software limitations e.g. having two chiplets + I/O die for RDNA3. However in the long run I also would expect them to want smaller chiplets that they could combine in APUs or just build GPUs in different sizes adding between n to n+1 chiplets.
And once that is possible they might want similar approach for big and small cores. Maybe I am wrong and it will always be a chiplet with big and small cores as it makes sense but I kind of think at some point they want to separate them finding a better solution and better connecting / stacking tech.
How many changes the OS would need to have is entirely dependent upon implementation. The big catch with this design is that it takes up a significant amount of silicon area to pull off as by design all of it can't be operable simultaneously. For mobile that's probably ideal as the larger core only wakes when needed. The smaller cores though wouldn't find much use while chained to the larger cores when dealing with well designed throughput oriented server software: the area invested in the smaller cores could have been used for more larger cores.
It has to exist first. If it does come out, it would probably have higher FPS from RDNA2 and faster RAM, and better battery life. Perfect for a handheld. Maybe quad-core Rembrandt with TDP-down can achieve the same thing.
Looking at the specs, the only difference is that the 'K' model adds WiFi 6E support (6ghz band). It should be otherwise the same. I'd expect Linux driver support will be coming soonish… but that's probably gonna be a couple months until there's a workable experimental driver, and longer until it's in released/distribution kernels.
Any reason to prefer AMD's RZ608 module over Intel's AX210 module? The AX210 is already quite inexpensive (especially if directly shipped from China) and as a bonus has 160 MHz bandwidth support in the 5 GHz and 6 GHz bands.
There's no real benefit to the consumer. That said, the 160MHz bandwidth isn't really *that* useful unless you're sitting in a faraday cage beside your wifi router. (Of course, I live in Canada, where there's only a *single* 160MHz band available, and WiFi 6E's 6GHz bands are not permitted.)
My best guess is that this is purely a marketing/branding play by AMD aimed at laptop OEMs. AMD wants to remove that last "Intel" brand name that shows up on the spec sheets of premium laptops.
I bet AMD is going to be offering some CPU+wifi "bundle" deals to laptop OEMs to bring the cost of the AMD-branded wifi down below that of bare Intel AX210 module.
The reference design for the Mediatek MT7921K does appear to be an M.2 2230 A/E-key card. I assume the AMD-branded one will be the same, since the goal is presumably for it to be a drop-in replacement for the Intel AX210 in laptops.
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Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Hope they soon manage to intergrate Thunderbolt / USB 4.0 as this in my opinion is the bigger current issue not being used for lots of premium Notebooks.But yes not having to use a Intel WiFi is definetly a reasonable strategic step forward. Hope they manage their drivers well as this might be a make it or break!
nandnandnand - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
USB4 is rumored for Rembrandt, next year's Renoir/Cezanne successor.Kevin G - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
AMD has a socket change coming with DDR5 on the horizon. It'd be wise to add that functionality then. Following AMD's current strategy, it could just be a new feature on the IO die as needed.brakdoo - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
How many people are really using TB? Less than 1% of people who have a TB port?I just hope DP 2.0 over USB-C will find it's way to many laptops because the problem with high-refresh 4k is going to get real once monitors are available.
DP1.3/1.4 or tunneling DP over TB/USB4 (max 40 gbps) won't be enough. Even HDMI 2.1 ain't capable of 240hz 4k. Just to put it out there: nobody likes DSC...
Spunjji - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
"nobody likes DSC"Never even used it, no idea how good it is! 120Hz 4K seems plenty for most users for the foreseeable future.
brakdoo - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Look at gaming monitor trends. 120 hz won't cut it. Even the 144 - 165 hz class doesn't seem to be enough if we look at the new gaming monitors of last year.Lucky Stripes 99 - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Outside of competitive gaming, how important are refresh rates above 120 Hz? I would imagine that input latency would be a more important issue to tackle.brakdoo - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
Outside of competitive gaming(that's a huge group of people nowadays) it's going to be about the ability to display 8k at 60 hz because many TV panels are already able to do that but there is no interface for that (only DP 2.0).Samsung is selling more 8k TVs every year but only HDMI 2.1 maximum.
rahvin - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
The thing is there is very little future for those 8K panels. There is a complete lack of content in 8k and almost none in 4k. Broadcast TV is never going to move beyond 1080P(there isn't spectrum for it) and it's highly unlikely that streaming providers will provide any significant content in either 4k or 8k due to the bandwidth, storage and processing requirements.Samsung and the others are pushing 8K (and probably something bigger later) to try to drive TV sales but the reality is that once everyone's got a big screen flat TV they probably aren't going to keep buying them (and we've likely already reached that point in the US at least). It's no different than pushing 4k and 3D before that. 90% of content is 1080P or even 1080i at this point and it's unlikely to change.
But 120hz is a good thing, there is less eye strain with higher refresh rates. Just outside of specialized applications I don't see it being a selling factor that will ever draw consumer demand because most people can't tell the difference side by side.
nandnandnand - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
You know what I want? An 8-inch 8K flexible OLED tablet: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13742/new-8k-oled-d...calc76 - Wednesday, May 12, 2021 - link
"Broadcast TV is never going to move beyond 1080P(there isn't spectrum for it)"Interesting, I suppose the rollout of ATSC 3.0 with HEVC doesn't exist.🤔
at_clucks - Thursday, May 13, 2021 - link
"that's a huge group of people nowadays"For an arbitrary definition of "huge". There are an estimated 3bn gamers today. The *audience* for esports was less than 0.5bn in 2020 (a good year). Competitive gamers are an niche market, far from huge. And the number of people who can realistically tell the difference between 120Hz and 144Hz is vanishingly small. In the chase for big numbers so many buyers go for crappy TN screens because they have a lot of those hurtz things.
A lot of people drive a cars but only a few are "competitive drivers". There's no expectation that all cars should be super-sport.
"Samsung is selling more 8k TVs"
Sure, but they were selling plenty of curved TVs too. And 3D TVs before that. I understand the need to serve them with an adequate interface for what they want, no objection there. But it's fueled by people chasing big numbers. Most wouldn't know DSC if it hit them in the retina :).
Approximately 100% of the people I tested with (a lot, I can assure you) assumed the 8K TV was the one with more vivid colors. The same applied with 4K before it. And with the 1440p monitor many years ago.
Tams80 - Thursday, May 20, 2021 - link
Mate... 0.5 billion is about a 15th of the entire Earth's (and therefore our species') population.Dug - Thursday, May 20, 2021 - link
Every movie editor, producer, content creator, and anyone that needs fast storage, 10Gb ethernet, multiple 5k displays, or 8k display, and daisy chaining capability. It's far more than the 1%.It is taking a long time to fill orders for TB4 docks due to demand.
Linustechtips12#6900xt - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Didn't apple buy intel's modem business???brakdoo - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Yes, that was the former Infineon GSM modem business. The WIFI business is different.BTW Intel also sold their home WiFi business to maxlinear (chips for routers) because there is no money in that. They kept the client chips for strategic reasons
yeeeeman - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
this might turn for the better or for the worse for amd.One is the situation of Intel where it makes the actual chip INHOUSE, whereas AMD is buying this from another company that it isn't known for its quality, so people might have to be obligated to swap their wifi cards to intel, cause amd doesn't want intel wifi cards, which are, lets face it, the standard in this business.
Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Agreed. It is not the same but what options do they have if they do not want to rely on Intel?Buy MediaTek, Marvell or Realtek? I mean Realtek would be intresting for their LAN solutions etc. MediaTek and Marvell would be too big to swallow now after the Xilinx merger.
brakdoo - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Broadcom was actually looking for a potential buyers of it's client WIFI/BT business and they are the best out there (at least for phones).There is just no money in this business. AMD would be stupid if they would go after this market.
There are 4 leading edge client WIFI companies fighting over $5 chips in $8 modules: Broadcom, Quallcom, MTK and Intel (+maybe Samsung). Huawei was among them but they have problems with the US.
rahvin - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
There will be further consolidation in the wifi chip business, eventually there will be 3 or less providers and prices will stabilize making the business profitable again. It's just which companies see the long term value at that point (or in the case of Intel the leverage of offering a complete platform).Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
What I am curious is if AMD / MediaTek create deeper integration of the WiFi / 5G chips. Like Intel did with their WiFi.brakdoo - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
There is no reason to do that. Even Intel is not doing CnVi for their AX210 at this time.That was just for marketing (you probably know Intel). Even many smartphones opt for PCIe/USB chips now. Splitting baseband and analog made no sense from a technology point (for Intel) because the baseband part ain't even worth $1 of MCU/DSP...
jeremyshaw - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
To be fair, Intel doesn't make all of their WiFi solution inhouse. The critical RF front end is typically made by UMC, who holds IP for fabing that.Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
UMC only fabs it or designs it too as part of their IP. It doesn't matter who fabs it but who designs it in this case I think.kepstin - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
As far as it goes, Mediatek bought Ralink's wireless business. They're actually one of the better manufacturers of wifi hardware right now. They provide one of the more popular platforms for Wifi 6 and 6E routers (which generally run Linux; they have been decent at getting wifi support into open-source kernels).The unknown at this point is mostly what the quality of Mediatek's windows drivers for the wifi card is like.
Alistair - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I hope this company lasts long enough to get some more powerful custom stuff from AMD. Why not 12 cores of RDNA2 for example. And USB4.Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I would expect your request to be matched Q1/2022 for APUs and Q3/2022 for Desktop CPUs.Somehow I am curious about the Zen5 rumors with big.LITTLE AMD design. By then you could see an amazing hybrid cpu with a RDNA3 chiplet and maybe Infinity cache for the APU on 3nm.
You could create amazing notebooks and tablets.
nandnandnand - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Infinity Cache on RDNA2 is like L3 SRAM. I would like to see gigabytes of L4 cache stacked near CPU cores. Such as on top of the I/O die in current desktop designs.As for the big.LITTLE rumor, you could make a list of features to lop off, like SMT, AVX-512 (AVX2?), cache sizes, and end up with a new Bobcat/Puma that's at least 50% smaller than a normal core. Then throw some amount of those on a chiplet or die. Coming out a couple years after Lakefield and Alder Lake, Windows and Linux will be better prepared for heterogeneous x86.
Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I agree on future chiplet / tiles designs and stacked memory. But not sure how fast this will be the case.But yeah I can see custom APUs made from CPU chiplet or even differentv big / little chiplets + GPU chiplets + I/O + Memory + application specific ASIC/FPGA chiplets
I would hope for SVE2 like instructions on x86. It would be nice in general and probably also a solution for better big and small cores integration. We have seen all those as a single thing - yet it has to come all together.
I would expect with RDNA4 + Zen 6 latest for AMD and LunarLake for Intel. Maybe we are lucky and see it with MeteorLake and Zen5 before. Question is to what extend. However 2024/25 should be a reasonable expectation for a fully chiplet design chip being common.
e36Jeff - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Assuming AMD's bit.LITTLE design is based on the patents they have filed, it will be unlike any implementation of that chip style we have seen so far. In the patents they describe a system where the L1 cache is either shared or kept in lock-step between the little cores and the big cores. The big cores would have most of their transistors kept unpowered, except for the L1 and things needed to operate that. The little cores would be cut down and unable to process more power-hungry features. When something comes along that requires the big cores attention, it would power on, already have all the data it needs in the L1, run the instructions, then power off. To the OS there wouldn't be 2 cores, it would just see a single, full-featured core, all the juggling of data between the big and little cores would happen in silicon. If done right, it has the possibility of being incredibly powerful and flexible, much moreso that existing silicon. And it requires zero OS changes to work.Matthias B V - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I know and you are correct - For now I do not think they separate big and small cores.However in the long it might offer the highest flexibility.
They now have to start from somewhere and live with silicon, fab and software limitations e.g. having two chiplets + I/O die for RDNA3. However in the long run I also would expect them to want smaller chiplets that they could combine in APUs or just build GPUs in different sizes adding between n to n+1 chiplets.
And once that is possible they might want similar approach for big and small cores. Maybe I am wrong and it will always be a chiplet with big and small cores as it makes sense but I kind of think at some point they want to separate them finding a better solution and better connecting / stacking tech.
Kevin G - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
How many changes the OS would need to have is entirely dependent upon implementation. The big catch with this design is that it takes up a significant amount of silicon area to pull off as by design all of it can't be operable simultaneously. For mobile that's probably ideal as the larger core only wakes when needed. The smaller cores though wouldn't find much use while chained to the larger cores when dealing with well designed throughput oriented server software: the area invested in the smaller cores could have been used for more larger cores.nandnandnand - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
@e36Jeff That sounds excellent if they do it and it works.nandnandnand - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
It sounds like you want Rembrandt, which was just rumored to have up to 12 CU RDNA2. Maybe that would get cut down to 10-11 CUs on a 6-core CPU model.According to an older leak, it will support two USB4 ports: https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-leak-AMD-Ryzen-6...
scineram - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
i think they would have been better off with Van Gogh than Renoir.nandnandnand - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
It has to exist first. If it does come out, it would probably have higher FPS from RDNA2 and faster RAM, and better battery life. Perfect for a handheld. Maybe quad-core Rembrandt with TDP-down can achieve the same thing.Spunjji - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I'll be sad if Van Gogh never sees the light of day, but you're right, it's possible Rembrandt (if it exists) would fill a similar niche.Smell This - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
I thought Van Gogh was <10w Zen2 Renoir (with maybe RDNA + LPDDR4x memory support?)
nandnandnand - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
AYANEO = Ryzen 5 4500U, 6 Zen2 cores, 6 Vega CUs, 10-25 Watt TDPvs. Van Gogh, 4 Zen2 cores, possibly 8 RDNA2 CUs, lower TDP range, support for faster, more efficient RAM (i.e. LPDDR5)
Most current games won't miss the 2 CPU cores, and graphics performance would be way up. With more battery life for a handheld.
Rembrandt mobile is rumored to have up to 8 Zen3+? cores and 12 RDNA2 CUs. A quad-core Ryzen 3 5400U successor could end up with 8-10 RDNA2 CUs.
Prosthetic Head - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Linux support?If so, as an open source module in the vanilla kernel, open but manual, or a binary blob?
Small Bison - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
MT7921 is supported in the vanilla kernel (https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/... so I suppose it’s just a matter of how different MT7921K is.kepstin - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Looking at the specs, the only difference is that the 'K' model adds WiFi 6E support (6ghz band). It should be otherwise the same. I'd expect Linux driver support will be coming soonish… but that's probably gonna be a couple months until there's a workable experimental driver, and longer until it's in released/distribution kernels.Solo450 - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Any reason to prefer AMD's RZ608 module over Intel's AX210 module? The AX210 is already quite inexpensive (especially if directly shipped from China) and as a bonus has 160 MHz bandwidth support in the 5 GHz and 6 GHz bands.kepstin - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
There's no real benefit to the consumer. That said, the 160MHz bandwidth isn't really *that* useful unless you're sitting in a faraday cage beside your wifi router.(Of course, I live in Canada, where there's only a *single* 160MHz band available, and WiFi 6E's 6GHz bands are not permitted.)
My best guess is that this is purely a marketing/branding play by AMD aimed at laptop OEMs. AMD wants to remove that last "Intel" brand name that shows up on the spec sheets of premium laptops.
I bet AMD is going to be offering some CPU+wifi "bundle" deals to laptop OEMs to bring the cost of the AMD-branded wifi down below that of bare Intel AX210 module.
lmcd - Thursday, June 3, 2021 - link
It all makes sense, right up until the part where they picked MediaTek. Yikes.Memo.Ray - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
6E but no 160MHz , interesting!regsEx - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Will it be available as a M.2 2230 key A/E card, as Intel AX200?kepstin - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
The reference design for the Mediatek MT7921K does appear to be an M.2 2230 A/E-key card. I assume the AMD-branded one will be the same, since the goal is presumably for it to be a drop-in replacement for the Intel AX210 in laptops.zodiacfml - Wednesday, May 12, 2021 - link
interesting. mediatek SoC with AMD GPU in the future?nandnandnand - Wednesday, May 12, 2021 - link
I'm sure Samsung has the ARM + AMD GPU combo locked down.zahrtelsharia - Tuesday, May 25, 2021 - link
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