I do hope in the pursuit of faster memory, the consumer boards still have 4 ram slots, I had 16GB and I just upgraded to 32Gb with the 2 slots I had free, it creates less e-waste too imo.
I don't see a reason for regular consumer boards to move away from 2 DIMMs per Channel/4 DIMMs on a Desktop board. This board is for extreme overclocking, where only having 2 DIMMs makes a lot of sense (shorter trace lengths mean that the likelyhood for a successful overclock increase).
e-waste ? lol. That is over at the BGA garbage use and throw laptops where the battery cannot be purchased and the Heatsink will deteriorate due to poor cooling and ultimately the laptop will be rendered useless garbage.
Or the li-ion phones that are announced every year, Apple says they sell double digit millions every quarter so what happened to the millions for the past year or such, same for Android li-ion sealed phones.
Or those new wireless earbuds which do not have any option to replace the battery in them and every year people purchase new esp Anker and the low end market is literally flooded by these use and throw garbage products.
Desktop DRAM DIMM slots do not have any relationship with e-waste in contrast with the other consumer products which are made for planned obsolescence plus a Desktop will live as long as the components are in working state, people even run Core 2Quad machines today, and Xeon market still exists since Nehalem uarch machines.
I meant that it creates e wast of dimms not much but it does when you have to throw away a 2*4gb kit because you dont have enough dimm slots and want to upgrade to 16gb
??? consumer boards are unlikely to move away from 4 slots You do realize that this mobo is specifically designed with very short traces between cpu and ram, right?
I've always wondered why every picture of direct LN2 cooling I've seen is done in wide open air as towels and conformal coatings are used in an attempt to prevent electrical shorts. Why don't we see them putting their board in a glass or plexiglass box (like a fish tank) with a loosely fitting easily removable lid on it? Most compressed (or liquid) gasses are incredibly dry and have extremely low moisture content, so once it turns to gas and displaces the room air from the box it'll naturally be such a low humidity that you shouldn't have to worry about condensation. Furthermore, they could purge the box with another cheap heavy dry gas like CO2 first, or continually pump it in there to keep the moist room air out.
One of the reasons why an enclosed space would be a negative is that even small amounts of air that would be present can still have moisture. This would condensate on the board and create shorts. Unless you were able to remove ALL traces of the air, it just would cause problems. Also as an ex-extreme overclocker myself, having direct and unrestricted access to the board/pots for heating up the LN2 pot with a blowtorch when hitting a cold bug would be hard to do otherwise.
A large ventilation to the outside would also be beneficial to prevent a lack of breathable oxygen in the room if using CO2 or liquid nitrogen. Glass could also break especially if under stress from temperature differences. With that said, safety could be dependent on different factors and too much safety could be bad as well. Wearing gloves around liquid nitrogen could potentially allow the liquid nitrogen to become trapped inside the glove to going gloveless may be better but I do not really know. Anyway, this does sound fun and I wish you all the best if anyone here overclocks.
Can I know what revision of the chip this board is using for the Intel 225V Foxville chip ? SLNMH or SLMNG ? If any of those then GB is using the B3 stepping, which is there on ASUS Maximus Z590 lineup as well. Revised one which doesn't have HW issues like prev ones.
Also I hope you guys can get the Z590 DARK. The Z590 FTW is out already, why do you guys do not recommend any ASUS Maximus or Dark boards at all ?
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Linustechtips12#6900xt - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I do hope in the pursuit of faster memory, the consumer boards still have 4 ram slots, I had 16GB and I just upgraded to 32Gb with the 2 slots I had free, it creates less e-waste too imo.MenhirMike - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I don't see a reason for regular consumer boards to move away from 2 DIMMs per Channel/4 DIMMs on a Desktop board. This board is for extreme overclocking, where only having 2 DIMMs makes a lot of sense (shorter trace lengths mean that the likelyhood for a successful overclock increase).Silver5urfer - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
e-waste ? lol. That is over at the BGA garbage use and throw laptops where the battery cannot be purchased and the Heatsink will deteriorate due to poor cooling and ultimately the laptop will be rendered useless garbage.Or the li-ion phones that are announced every year, Apple says they sell double digit millions every quarter so what happened to the millions for the past year or such, same for Android li-ion sealed phones.
Or those new wireless earbuds which do not have any option to replace the battery in them and every year people purchase new esp Anker and the low end market is literally flooded by these use and throw garbage products.
Desktop DRAM DIMM slots do not have any relationship with e-waste in contrast with the other consumer products which are made for planned obsolescence plus a Desktop will live as long as the components are in working state, people even run Core 2Quad machines today, and Xeon market still exists since Nehalem uarch machines.
Linustechtips12#6900xt - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 - link
I meant that it creates e wast of dimms not much but it does when you have to throw away a 2*4gb kit because you dont have enough dimm slots and want to upgrade to 16gbmeacupla - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
???consumer boards are unlikely to move away from 4 slots
You do realize that this mobo is specifically designed with very short traces between cpu and ram, right?
Linustechtips12#6900xt - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 - link
i do understand that yes. but its. cost saving thing aswell and it might catch on into consumerdotes12 - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I've always wondered why every picture of direct LN2 cooling I've seen is done in wide open air as towels and conformal coatings are used in an attempt to prevent electrical shorts. Why don't we see them putting their board in a glass or plexiglass box (like a fish tank) with a loosely fitting easily removable lid on it? Most compressed (or liquid) gasses are incredibly dry and have extremely low moisture content, so once it turns to gas and displaces the room air from the box it'll naturally be such a low humidity that you shouldn't have to worry about condensation. Furthermore, they could purge the box with another cheap heavy dry gas like CO2 first, or continually pump it in there to keep the moist room air out.gavbon - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
One of the reasons why an enclosed space would be a negative is that even small amounts of air that would be present can still have moisture. This would condensate on the board and create shorts. Unless you were able to remove ALL traces of the air, it just would cause problems. Also as an ex-extreme overclocker myself, having direct and unrestricted access to the board/pots for heating up the LN2 pot with a blowtorch when hitting a cold bug would be hard to do otherwise.dotes12 - Tuesday, May 11, 2021 - link
That makes sense, thank you for taking the time to write me a reply!just_passin_by_2 - Tuesday, May 24, 2022 - link
A large ventilation to the outside would also be beneficial to prevent a lack of breathable oxygen in the room if using CO2 or liquid nitrogen. Glass could also break especially if under stress from temperature differences. With that said, safety could be dependent on different factors and too much safety could be bad as well. Wearing gloves around liquid nitrogen could potentially allow the liquid nitrogen to become trapped inside the glove to going gloveless may be better but I do not really know. Anyway, this does sound fun and I wish you all the best if anyone here overclocks.just_passin_by_2 - Tuesday, May 24, 2022 - link
Glass could also break or shatter dangerously*just_passin_by_2 - Tuesday, May 24, 2022 - link
so safety glasses could also be goodSlash3 - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
You've got the PCI Express slot assignment listed incorrectly on the conclusion (possibly elsewhere).The slots are, from top to bottom:
Gen3 x4 (chipset)
Gen4 x16 (CPU)
Gen4 x8 (CPU, switched with second slot)
Gen3 x1 (chipset)
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_m...
Amazing board, awful availability.
Silver5urfer - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
Can I know what revision of the chip this board is using for the Intel 225V Foxville chip ? SLNMH or SLMNG ? If any of those then GB is using the B3 stepping, which is there on ASUS Maximus Z590 lineup as well. Revised one which doesn't have HW issues like prev ones.Also I hope you guys can get the Z590 DARK. The Z590 FTW is out already, why do you guys do not recommend any ASUS Maximus or Dark boards at all ?
jeremyshaw - Monday, May 10, 2021 - link
I would really hope Intel fixed the <10Mbps issue by the 3rd stepping.