on top of a crap CPU platform "not worth the sand" unless you want to buy the low end 11400 ish cpu and Intel dropped prices so hard that it is worth looking at since there is no ryzen 5000 in that price bucket.
High end motherboards for Rocket lake make no sense because it's a value platform. If you're spending a lot of money you're better off with Ryzen 5000.
With the latest bios updates as well as microcode updates, Rocket Lake 11700k performs quite a bit better than Comet Lake 10700k in most tasks, so why are people saying “waste of sand?”
Also, some z590 motherboards send far too much power to the CPU, tomshardware should do a comparison analyze the same chip in a z490 vs z590 motherboard.
I’ve seen +60W more power consumption under load in an msi Z590 Ace (with an early bios) compared to a gigabyte z490 board, using the same exact cpu, voltage, frequency, and similar load line calibration. Similar scores in cinebench, etc. I got rid of the Ace as it forced the cpu to consume far too much power… if reviewers reviewed Comet Lake with z590 (instead of z490), the conclusion would probably be that comet lake is a power hungry beast. Some motherboards aren’t tuned properly.
within margin of errorin most games, and still nable to overcomeits 20% core defficiencyagainst the 10900k. The only thing the 11700k or 11900k win in is single threaded production workloads, and even then its often no better then a ryzen 5000.
Total waste of sand, just like turing was. Prices have gone up, performanc/$ has gone down or stayed the same. Boring, next.
False, the 11700k is much better than the 10700k both in single and multicore. I’ve tested both, rocket lake is better on the more recent bios updates. For example, the 11700K gets 16200 in cinebench r23, and 1850/11300 in Geekbench single core/multicore. Much better than the 10700k.
I agree that the 11900k is indeed overpriced, but the 11700k at $399 is actually less than what the 10700k was at launch ($430).
Rocket Lake makes some nice compute gains, but people are disappointed in it's gaming performance and power draw. Combine that with the socket change to LGA1700 in September for Alder Lake and it feels like a stop gap product on a dead socket.
It's not going to launch in September. Idk how people are believing ADL will launch this year. It will be mobile first and next year in the Q2 or Q3 it will come.
10G LAN is not present in many boards, only very expensive boards get 10G LAN. ASRock X570 Creator is the only $500 board I know, MSI X570 Prestige Creation and GB X570 Aorus Extreme from cheapest to expensive. Sadly the mobos cost is increasing more and more, with DDR5 and Gen 5 they even raise the prices even more.
And I think getting a Mellanox or Supermicro PCIe NICs is better and they have better cabling support too for those boards which do not have these 10G ports, at-least the option for used market exists and these would be pulled form an Office server system.
I wish many boards have PLX, but that's not even there now. Last board I saw was Supermicro Z490 which had them.
I would rather see AMD and Intel add more PCIe lanes to their desktop processors than useless PLX chips. I doubt it would significantly increase the price of the boards and then adding a 10gbe card would not be a concern.
For the record, I was able to add an Asus XG-C1000C (AQC107 10gbe chipset) to my system while keeping my RTX 3080 at PCIe 4.0 x16 by using one of the PCIe slots that was attached to the PCH instead of the CPU. This was with a 5900x and Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII WiFi. I don't use NVMe SSD's, though, so that may be a factor.
Well,my taste doesn't run to gold trim. I would have been ok with the brushed aluminum with the MSI dragon and a few other details in red or another accent color (black, anthracite grey, etc). But I guess with the drought going on with current generations of GPUs, a person could detract from an old card with all the bling!
I usually don't make such comments, but this should be called the "Sorry Ace Hole" edition"; this is clearly targeted at customers whose wallets are a lot larger than their cranium. I mean, really.
this in a silver chasis with gold/silver fittings yelow coolant and clear tubing would like fantastic. Too bad im not into gold color lol but i would appreciate the aesthetics.
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davebyrd - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
that looks terribleheadeffects - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
No worse than the average gaming crap.duploxxx - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
on top of a crap CPU platform "not worth the sand" unless you want to buy the low end 11400 ish cpu and Intel dropped prices so hard that it is worth looking at since there is no ryzen 5000 in that price bucket.nandnandnand - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
6-core options are popular, 11400/11500 fit the bill.High-end motherboards for Rocket Lake are a waste of time with Alder Lake just around the corner.
Flunk - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
High end motherboards for Rocket lake make no sense because it's a value platform. If you're spending a lot of money you're better off with Ryzen 5000.FreckledTrout - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
That felt weird to say didn't it? Its true but very odd sounding.PixyMisa - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
What's more, it's a value platform with no future. Alder Lake will be out this year, with a new socket.bigboxes - Tuesday, April 20, 2021 - link
Tell me about it...Operandi - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
I threw up in my mouth a bit more than average so I'd say this is worse, or better depending how you look at it.nandnandnand - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Dammit, MegLeeno - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
This battle is all because of AMD yes cause DDR5 Ram will soon drop & newer socket will be same Announced by Intel I need Explanations pleasenandnandnand - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
What is it that you want to know, exactly?shabby - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Msi should fire some people for this.meacupla - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
I actually don't mind the color scheme on this.The price would have been justifiable if this was socket AM4
Exotica - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
With the latest bios updates as well as microcode updates, Rocket Lake 11700k performs quite a bit better than Comet Lake 10700k in most tasks, so why are people saying “waste of sand?”Also, some z590 motherboards send far too much power to the CPU, tomshardware should do a comparison analyze the same chip in a z490 vs z590 motherboard.
I’ve seen +60W more power consumption under load in an msi Z590 Ace (with an early bios) compared to a gigabyte z490 board, using the same exact cpu, voltage, frequency, and similar load line calibration. Similar scores in cinebench, etc. I got rid of the Ace as it forced the cpu to consume far too much power… if reviewers reviewed Comet Lake with z590 (instead of z490), the conclusion would probably be that comet lake is a power hungry beast. Some motherboards aren’t tuned properly.
Exotica - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Anandtech* I mean should do a comparison.TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
*quite a bit better*within margin of errorin most games, and still nable to overcomeits 20% core defficiencyagainst the 10900k. The only thing the 11700k or 11900k win in is single threaded production workloads, and even then its often no better then a ryzen 5000.
Total waste of sand, just like turing was. Prices have gone up, performanc/$ has gone down or stayed the same. Boring, next.
Exotica - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
False, the 11700k is much better than the 10700k both in single and multicore. I’ve tested both, rocket lake is better on the more recent bios updates. For example, the 11700K gets 16200 in cinebench r23, and 1850/11300 in Geekbench single core/multicore. Much better than the 10700k.I agree that the 11900k is indeed overpriced, but the 11700k at $399 is actually less than what the 10700k was at launch ($430).
Mr Perfect - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Rocket Lake makes some nice compute gains, but people are disappointed in it's gaming performance and power draw. Combine that with the socket change to LGA1700 in September for Alder Lake and it feels like a stop gap product on a dead socket.Silver5urfer - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
It's not going to launch in September. Idk how people are believing ADL will launch this year. It will be mobile first and next year in the Q2 or Q3 it will come.nandnandnand - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
You're going against leakers, Intel, all those stories about DDR5 modules being readied and tested with Alder Lake, etc.https://www.tomshardware.com/news/galax-hof-readie...
johnnycanadian - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Why did they even bother screen printing the I/O shield? It's unreadable.TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
$500 for a board with no 10G ethernet, the same VRM design as $400 motherboards, and a hideous color palette.This is the perfect board for 11900k owners.
Silver5urfer - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
10G LAN is not present in many boards, only very expensive boards get 10G LAN. ASRock X570 Creator is the only $500 board I know, MSI X570 Prestige Creation and GB X570 Aorus Extreme from cheapest to expensive. Sadly the mobos cost is increasing more and more, with DDR5 and Gen 5 they even raise the prices even more.And I think getting a Mellanox or Supermicro PCIe NICs is better and they have better cabling support too for those boards which do not have these 10G ports, at-least the option for used market exists and these would be pulled form an Office server system.
I wish many boards have PLX, but that's not even there now. Last board I saw was Supermicro Z490 which had them.
oRAirwolf - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
I would rather see AMD and Intel add more PCIe lanes to their desktop processors than useless PLX chips. I doubt it would significantly increase the price of the boards and then adding a 10gbe card would not be a concern.For the record, I was able to add an Asus XG-C1000C (AQC107 10gbe chipset) to my system while keeping my RTX 3080 at PCIe 4.0 x16 by using one of the PCIe slots that was attached to the PCH instead of the CPU. This was with a 5900x and Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII WiFi. I don't use NVMe SSD's, though, so that may be a factor.
[email protected] - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Well,my taste doesn't run to gold trim. I would have been ok with the brushed aluminum with the MSI dragon and a few other details in red or another accent color (black, anthracite grey, etc). But I guess with the drought going on with current generations of GPUs, a person could detract from an old card with all the bling!eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
I usually don't make such comments, but this should be called the "Sorry Ace Hole" edition"; this is clearly targeted at customers whose wallets are a lot larger than their cranium. I mean, really.Koenig168 - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
The gold accent looks more yellow than gold to me.Oxford Guy - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
The most important aesthetic is the value per dollar.Hxx - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
this in a silver chasis with gold/silver fittings yelow coolant and clear tubing would like fantastic. Too bad im not into gold color lol but i would appreciate the aesthetics.Hxx - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
look*heavysoil - Friday, April 16, 2021 - link
Those mDP ports look too close to the Thunderbolt ports - it looks like you'd have ben careful of cable/connector choice if you want to use both...Oxford Guy - Saturday, April 17, 2021 - link
Where are the rhinestones?Linustechtips12#6900xt - Friday, April 23, 2021 - link
im being totally honest that would SOOOOOO good with a titan RTX LMAO:)