It has been suggested in some reviews that there is thermal throttling on the Mi 11 Lite 5G after around 5 minutes of benchmarking, while there is no throttling on the 4G version with the 732G. So it may be interesting to also test thermal throttling of this device.
The sustained performance metrics in the GPU section are extended +30 minute throttling levels. There is a little bit of it but nothing substantial or problematic.
Thanks Andrei for the review. I'm a bit surprised that Qualcomm released a chipset this fast and this efficient. Normally at this price point, I would've expected late 2022, as that's how slow Qualcomm's being with their mid-range chips. They must either be shifting strategy, being mindful of the competition, or something else.
The "something else" I feel like is ARMv9. There might be a divide coming, like there was during the 2014-2016 transition of 32bit and 64bit phones. It was particularly nasty from the software update path, when comparing Android 4.4 to 5.1
Midrange is 50% of all mobile SoC's sold and counts in for 70% of all mobile SoC's QC sells. Short answer is competition or better said higher tier of MTK Dimemsity SoC's. This way QC will stay at least one and a half steep ahead (better 5G and A78 core's).
I love these new powerful midrange phones and chips, super power-efficient and I don't game or whatever besides some minor clash of clans or something like that stupid so it makes total sense to me rather than getting a phone with an sd888 and having worse battery life.
@Andrei Can you say something to cache sizes and GPU clock? Such data is available to the flag ship SoC, but never for the smaller ones. Would be interesting for the 765, 750 and 730 too.
I wonder if any of the GPU tests truly stress memory bandwidth. The Adreno 642(780G) outperforms the Adreno 640(855) in these benchmarks with half the memory bandwidth. As they are both Adreno 600 parts im assuming no new compression techniques are in use.
Its only outperforming in the aztec normal test. I did some tests on my 855 device and got 44 and 17 fps on normal and high respectively. The sustained results are a matter of efficiency. Looks like the bandwidth doesnt matter much for benchea or games. 780g perfroms the same as 855 even in genshin impact.
Andrei, it's hard for me to understand the performance of the 780G with the benchmarks that are posted. Any chance you could run Geekbench 5, or AnTuTu 8, or PCMark for Android?
Well, this is likely that limited for cost saving. If you don't want to get it too close, spare 2 cores or make the GPU smaller. Or just reduce frequency for higher efficency.
I am not technically inclined in mobile SoC, but 2x 16b memory interface is little narrow for something that is pushing at least full HD resolution. Can the GPU reach full performance with such narrow interface?
Mi 11 light 5 G Amoled 10 bit display 1 billion color !! Great chip 780 G , good performance video and photo , very good for gaming , what else for 400 EUR ,
I have this phone. Overall thr cpu is great for gaming. No overheat issues over extended periods like the poco x3pro. But there is an issue with Mortal kombat mobile, which stutters horrendously and makes the game unplayable. I have tried everything.even the recent phone update hasn't helped
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zentwo - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
It has been suggested in some reviews that there is thermal throttling on the Mi 11 Lite 5G after around 5 minutes of benchmarking, while there is no throttling on the 4G version with the 732G. So it may be interesting to also test thermal throttling of this device.Andrei Frumusanu - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
The sustained performance metrics in the GPU section are extended +30 minute throttling levels. There is a little bit of it but nothing substantial or problematic.Kangal - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Thanks Andrei for the review.I'm a bit surprised that Qualcomm released a chipset this fast and this efficient. Normally at this price point, I would've expected late 2022, as that's how slow Qualcomm's being with their mid-range chips. They must either be shifting strategy, being mindful of the competition, or something else.
The "something else" I feel like is ARMv9. There might be a divide coming, like there was during the 2014-2016 transition of 32bit and 64bit phones. It was particularly nasty from the software update path, when comparing Android 4.4 to 5.1
Any thoughts on that matter?
ZolaIII - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Midrange is 50% of all mobile SoC's sold and counts in for 70% of all mobile SoC's QC sells. Short answer is competition or better said higher tier of MTK Dimemsity SoC's. This way QC will stay at least one and a half steep ahead (better 5G and A78 core's).mekpro - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
What is the cache size of this 780G ?Chaser - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
Got to love progress. I am not a phone gamer. So a powerful midrange SoC like this one is very interesting.Linustechtips12#6900xt - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
I love these new powerful midrange phones and chips, super power-efficient and I don't game or whatever besides some minor clash of clans or something like that stupid so it makes total sense to me rather than getting a phone with an sd888 and having worse battery life.KarlKastor - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
@AndreiCan you say something to cache sizes and GPU clock?
Such data is available to the flag ship SoC, but never for the smaller ones.
Would be interesting for the 765, 750 and 730 too.
Wardrive86 - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
I wonder if any of the GPU tests truly stress memory bandwidth. The Adreno 642(780G) outperforms the Adreno 640(855) in these benchmarks with half the memory bandwidth. As they are both Adreno 600 parts im assuming no new compression techniques are in use.iphonebestgamephone - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
Its only outperforming in the aztec normal test. I did some tests on my 855 device and got 44 and 17 fps on normal and high respectively. The sustained results are a matter of efficiency. Looks like the bandwidth doesnt matter much for benchea or games. 780g perfroms the same as 855 even in genshin impact.XacTactX - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
Andrei, it's hard for me to understand the performance of the 780G with the benchmarks that are posted. Any chance you could run Geekbench 5, or AnTuTu 8, or PCMark for Android?Fulljack - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link
finally, a good midrange SoC with only drawbacks are GPU performance compared to current flagship.hopefully it'll come to Asia in sub-300$ market. and by Asia I mean Asia outside of China.
eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
I have the sneaky suspicion that they limited the memory bus vs. the 888 so that this (780) doesn't come too close.KarlKastor - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
Well, this is likely that limited for cost saving. If you don't want to get it too close, spare 2 cores or make the GPU smaller. Or just reduce frequency for higher efficency.Alien959 - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
I am not technically inclined in mobile SoC, but 2x 16b memory interface is little narrow for something that is pushing at least full HD resolution. Can the GPU reach full performance with such narrow interface?zodiacfml - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link
i Would be interested to see this in a Poco. THe Poco F3 with a Snapdragon 870/865 is cheaper than this M11.EthiaW - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
Cheer up mediatek! Give us better snapdragons please!Silver5urfer - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link
No Sony press release ? They are launching solid smartphone lineup. The 10 Mark 3 looks like the best budget phone on the market.Sharma_Ji - Sunday, April 25, 2021 - link
The what ???Linustechtips12#6900xt - Friday, April 16, 2021 - link
I wonder if media tech is actually going to make a return besides under 100$ phones apparently there new socs are actually around 865/865+ levelsLejionaire - Friday, April 16, 2021 - link
Mi 11 light 5 G Amoled 10 bit display 1 billion color !! Great chip 780 G , good performance video and photo , very good for gaming , what else for 400 EUR ,mac231us - Sunday, April 18, 2021 - link
Lejionaire-and where is this available (the 5g 780 SC version) in Europe? Thanksevilpaul666 - Sunday, April 18, 2021 - link
So the midrange is caught up to the 855 more or less?DarkStar9173 - Wednesday, June 9, 2021 - link
I have this phone. Overall thr cpu is great for gaming. No overheat issues over extended periods like the poco x3pro. But there is an issue with Mortal kombat mobile, which stutters horrendously and makes the game unplayable. I have tried everything.even the recent phone update hasn't helped