I've used mainly ThinkPads for decades now, but I think we've reached the point where Lenovo has lost me. The keyboards, despite worsening over the years, are still better than the competition, but it seems like almost everything else is worse. Important as the keyboard is to me, it's no longer enough. I can get a brighter, 3:2, matte screen; better performance; etc. for less money from the competition, why wouldn't I? If Lenovo would only follow suit, I'd stick with them. With enthusiasm if they improved the keyboards. But I don't see what I want in these announcements.
Huawei has some nice 3:2 displays on some of their laptops, and are sold at a really competitive price. Recommended the Matebook 14 AMD version to a friend's sister for office work in general and she can't be happier with it!
If they can't get back to 16:10 for the T series they should just kill that model off. The horrible screens on the T series have made it kind of a joke for a while now. Just kill it off and fill in the product lineup gap with something rather more serious from the X series.
This is promising, maybe next time I want to upgrade there will actually be a laptop I want, which is basically a high-end 14" screen, Linux support, good keyboard, AMD CPU+GPU and 32GB RAM.
HP and Lenovo both have laptops that fit that niche, unless you mean a discrete AMD GPU.
HP 15-ef0028ca (last year's model) has an AMD Ryzen Mobile 3500U with a 15" screen and SO-DIMM slots. Runs Ubuntu 20.04 LTS without issues (using KDE).
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 has an AMD Ryzen Mobile 4500U with a 14" screen. Soldered on RAM, and I think the max that could be ordered was 16 GB. Have booted it off LiveUSB sticks with Ubuntu for testing and didn't have any issues, although I didn't use it for much.
I believe Dell and Asus have AMD Ryzen 4000-series (available now) and 5000-series laptops (coming soon).
There's been a bunch of AMD-based laptops reviewed on here.
Will be interesting to see some 5000-series laptops with USB4 reviewed. :)
> Lenovo is also proud to offer low-blue light hardware support on the displays, and unlike most low-blue light technologies which cause a red-shift on the display, the backlight physically produces less of the stressful blue lights, allowing the display to still keep the proper white balance.
How is this physically possible? somebody please explain how is this not pseudo science.
I'm guessing they block a very specific frequency of blue light, based on this:
"Blue light exposure research and studies on animals’ cells have shown that blue light in a range of 415 to 455 nm generated the greatest phototoxic risk to retinal pigment epithelium cells, with photoreceptor cell apoptosis seen early after the retina is damaged by blue light*."
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logoffon - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
"the original widescreen ThinkPads were all 16:10"ThinkPad Z60t: am I a joke to you?
Valantar - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
Last I checked, 4:3 isn't widescreen.skavi - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
It’s 5:3 I think. (or 15:9)MenhirMike - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
Indeed, 1280x768 is 15:9.ksec - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
Anyone know the key travel on these keyboards.Evil Underlord - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
I've used mainly ThinkPads for decades now, but I think we've reached the point where Lenovo has lost me. The keyboards, despite worsening over the years, are still better than the competition, but it seems like almost everything else is worse. Important as the keyboard is to me, it's no longer enough.I can get a brighter, 3:2, matte screen; better performance; etc. for less money from the competition, why wouldn't I? If Lenovo would only follow suit, I'd stick with them. With enthusiasm if they improved the keyboards. But I don't see what I want in these announcements.
heffeque - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
Huawei has some nice 3:2 displays on some of their laptops, and are sold at a really competitive price.Recommended the Matebook 14 AMD version to a friend's sister for office work in general and she can't be happier with it!
Drazick - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
Which other laptops has 3:2 ratio?Evil Underlord - Friday, February 26, 2021 - link
Huawei, Surface, Spectre...flensr - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
If they can't get back to 16:10 for the T series they should just kill that model off. The horrible screens on the T series have made it kind of a joke for a while now. Just kill it off and fill in the product lineup gap with something rather more serious from the X series.hfm - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
That P15 looks interesting depending on which Intel CPU they put in it. (I need Thunderbolt 4)akvadrako - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
This is promising, maybe next time I want to upgrade there will actually be a laptop I want, which is basically a high-end 14" screen, Linux support, good keyboard, AMD CPU+GPU and 32GB RAM.zamroni - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
Just compile new kernel if the built-in Linux kernel doesn't suit your new hardwarephoenix_rizzen - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
HP and Lenovo both have laptops that fit that niche, unless you mean a discrete AMD GPU.HP 15-ef0028ca (last year's model) has an AMD Ryzen Mobile 3500U with a 15" screen and SO-DIMM slots. Runs Ubuntu 20.04 LTS without issues (using KDE).
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 has an AMD Ryzen Mobile 4500U with a 14" screen. Soldered on RAM, and I think the max that could be ordered was 16 GB. Have booted it off LiveUSB sticks with Ubuntu for testing and didn't have any issues, although I didn't use it for much.
I believe Dell and Asus have AMD Ryzen 4000-series (available now) and 5000-series laptops (coming soon).
There's been a bunch of AMD-based laptops reviewed on here.
Will be interesting to see some 5000-series laptops with USB4 reviewed. :)
imaskar - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
Lenovo IdeaPad runs badly on linux. Tons of stuff doesn't work, lower perf on DC, random hangs. Had to switch back to windows.zamroni - Friday, February 26, 2021 - link
Just compile new kernel with kernel options that suits your hardwareJimmyZeng - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
> Lenovo is also proud to offer low-blue light hardware support on the displays, and unlike most low-blue light technologies which cause a red-shift on the display, the backlight physically produces less of the stressful blue lights, allowing the display to still keep the proper white balance.How is this physically possible? somebody please explain how is this not pseudo science.
zamroni - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
Blue light filter is simply software based.Display driver reduces the luminance value of blue pixels
Spunjji - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
I believe it's to do with the emissions spectrum of the backlight itself.I'm not 100% sure it's *not* pseudo-science, though - at least not with regard to the end result that this reduction is supposed to achieve.
Wereweeb - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
I'm guessing they block a very specific frequency of blue light, based on this:"Blue light exposure research and studies on animals’ cells have shown that blue light in a range of 415 to 455 nm generated the greatest phototoxic risk to retinal pigment epithelium cells, with photoreceptor cell apoptosis seen early after the retina is damaged by blue light*."
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200306005...
0siris - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
T-series needs at least 16:10 panels, but 3:2 would be much more desirable.redhatnotredhad - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
Red Hat.warpenguin - Wednesday, February 24, 2021 - link
No.