And speaking of weather, the current cold conditions just forced the shutdown of Samsung's Austin fab so I don't imagine they would be particularly happy about Texas.
Another plus for NY is more reliable clean power from Hydro-Québec.
LOL, I'ved lived in Austin and NY and while not AZ I've visited and Austin is easily the best weather of the 3 locations. Allergies would be a much bigger issue than weather. Depending on where in NY, NY definitely has better food.
Its gonna be really tough trying to attract folks to AZ, that towns there are super creepy. Any professional will choose Austin over Scottsdale or Chandler, etc. Forget about NY, the taxes are a killer.
How is Scottsdale and Chandler creepy? Let alone compared to Austin (who literally prides themselves on being "weird").
Interesting that Arizona has been turning blue in no small part due to the number of professionals moving there, I'm not so sure that its as difficult as you seem to suggest.
The crime and human trafficking in AZ. There's 100s of ppl just sitting in the road in the towns there. I was interviewing for some jobs in AZ and I noped the heck out of there.....I could tell the interviewers were trying to shield me from the seedy side of the city.
I've driven in almost all the 48 lower states, AZ is the only one where the cops pulled me over on the interstate and said I was "driving erratically and suspiciously", but let me go (??).
The worst weather? I would love for you to explain that one. Arizona gets hotter and NY has a rough winter with possible hurricanes etc. I would choose Austin over those locations in a heartbeat.
Phoenix, Arizona has stable nuclear and solar power tied to the national grid, no snow, no ice, no humidity, no hurricanes, cheap flat land, rock solid road infrastructure, and much closer to the west coast for shipping to Eastern Asia.
Austin, TX is locked down to the Texas grid which has screwed Samsung over in the past because of the last snow storm where they had to use shit controllers in their SSDs because their factory was shut down for weeks. Austin constantly loses power due to bad weather, has ice, snow, CRAP road infrastructure, overpriced land, no nuclear power to provide during increment weather (they lock wind farms down too to avoid the wind speed from breaking the motors, natural gas freezes the pipes and no solar when cloudy).
Arizona is the way to go and why TSMC and Intel are building there. Which may be enough reason for Samsung to build there too with all the talent being actually able to afford a house to live close to the foundry. Good luck saying the same about Austin.
Seconded. Or, that ought to be reversed a bit: companies demanding tax exemptions to build factories or other businesses should be prosecuted for blackmail. Because that's what it is.
I'm surprised North Carolina didn't get on some of that tax abatement action. There are only around 160 acres left in the Research Triangle Park (RTP) but there is a 'mega-site' with 2,500 acres 20 minutes south of Chapel Hill off Highway 1. The 'winner' gets 'twin-lakes' with your own Nuke Plant (Shearon Harris), the 'Raleigh Executive Jetport' and all the tax-grifting bells & whistles.
Even better: 10 miles south of the mega-site is the City of Sanford, where Highway 1 in Lee County is named the *Jefferson Davis Highway* ( eye roll ). Not a big Chamber of Commerce moment for The Old North State ...
It's not blackmail. They're not threatening to do harm to anyone, on condition of X or anything else. Making someone an offer is not blackmail. Offering to build a fab somewhere in exchange for a lighter tax bite is just mundane negotiation – they're not threatening to release some politician's d*** pics if they don't agree to Samsung's terms.
The taxes should be illegal, especially income taxes on individuals and businesses. And any kind of tax on investment. Humans don't need these sorts of theft mechanisms to have a civilization, and it's not possible to have a great civilization, with maximal human flourishing and advancement, with such massive and predatory governments weilding unregulated taxing power.
Ever since that whole Gamestop debacle, I have had to abandon plans for a new hobby fab in my back yard. Really depressing - I was so looking forward to getting in on some of that sweet 3nm action! Now I suddenly don't have anything to spend my time or (slightly smaller) heaps of money on. Maybe I could try financing an illegal mining operation in some 3rd world country? My heart just isn't in it though. If it wasn't for those pesky kids ... uh, redditors!
When it's Globalist Capitalism currently. It really doesn't matter whether it's SK or US, since all the top 1-2% are the Investors so anywhere it is, the top benefit. Unless it's Chinese. Because CCP investments are not powered by the same top people. Bring it on.
"To build a leading-edge manufacturing facility, Samsung needs rather huge incentives from authorities."
This is a flat out lie. They are talking about spending $17B on a new facility and the tax breaks they want add up to less than $1B over twenty years. There is no way those tax breaks are required with that kind of budget. The mathematics do not add up. Effectively, that means the difference is between 17 and $18B. Amortized over twenty years and including depreciation, that is a very small percentage and hardly a deal breaker.
Good call-out. If you can make a profit on a $17B capital investment, it's very likely you can on an $18B investment. Meanwhile, that $40M per year in local tax revenue is likely going to make a significant difference for the residents and local services.
Cities and states should stop offering tax abatements. It's a race to the bottom and they'd collectively be better off without them. In most cases it just means more profit for the developers, and in cases where it actually makes a difference in viability, it's sustaining non-economically-viable businesses.
"in cases where it actually makes a difference in viability, it's sustaining non-economically-viable businesses" - ain't that just the truth. About time businesses started pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and stopped begging for handouts.
The tax breaks is what kills a community. While it may seem like a advantage in long run, history says otherwise to run down areas. Its really apparent in small towns to see the true nature of it, our town did the same for a tool company here, when the time was up they wanted to renegotiate it, the city didn't want the current deal, because it provided just property tax, and at a huge discounted rate vs other places.
The tool company pretty much said, give in to our demands or we leave, the town figured no other building could support them, so they didn't budge. Not only did they leave, they left and went overseas, leaving this huge abandoned building, many outlining buildings, etc.
In less than one year, 900 people lost jobs in a town of 5k people, the result trickled town and small businesses closed, day cares closed.
The site now has vats of oil on it sitting in huge containers rusting away as well which is just great for the creek that runs next to them eventually when they rust through and leak out.
But the kicker is this, our small town literally let them sit there for 10 years tax free, just to prop up the town, then when the town asked them for just %30 tax, they left in a heart beat. It wasn't even a negotiation to them, they didn't come back with "maybe %1" or something, they literally didn't even respond to it or show up to the open city console meeting..they just sent a letter to city attorney letting them know they are leaving.
So now those workers are traveling 40min away to city for jobs, or you can see some at local walmart working min wage...instead of the $20 a hour plus insurance and vacation time, full time they had before.
That sucks, but is kind of apples to oranges. The Austin metro area has over 1M people and the 2nd largest tech market in the USA after Silicon Valley. Nobody controls enough of the job market or economy to have that kind of impact singularly in Austin.
I mean like, why only 100% tax break? Why not 200%? Or 300%?
Those 1,800 jobs will pay a lot of property taxes (and certainly a lot more since Samsung won't be). Isn't that worth giving Samsung a cut? Let's say that the workers are paid $100k on average. That's 180M in annual salary. Samsung is just giving that away. Why not make it worth their while, by giving them 90M as an incentive - just 50% of what they pay in salary.
They've also chosen to ignore silicon's previous darling, California, in their search. I wonder why.... I know many posters here decry the tax breaks, but other countries like China and South Korea basically give gigantic incentives either by forcing them in order to sell and partner with other companies in China or heavily subsidizing them as in Korea. Very hard for the US to compete with that.
No free tax ride. Go somewhere else. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to help your fab (or anything for that matter). You win on your own, or die. As others said, it should be illegal to give tax breaks I DIDN'T VOTE for. I certainly didn't vote to give ANY dollars to a NON USA company (or any country either!). At this point, if it isn't USA first, FU. I'd rather see billions spent on INTEL and I don't even like that idea and I own the stock...ROFL.
Samsung, TSMC=CHINA. Some idiot will give them status at some point and all our tech leaves USA again. NO, you want to compete here, do it on your own dime. With Biden in, TSMC could be in china hands in a year. Korean's all the same story if you have a president that is USA LAST.
Why look at all the evidence above? Just take Time magazines word for it, they literally tell you they broke the laws, stole votes etc. It's all there to "fortify the election" on your behalf...LOL https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-camp... Read the whole thing, they aren't even afraid to tell you in public, in PRINT.
https://www.kraken-wood.com/ More stories as they keep coming in from suits etc going on in USA. At some point if the military doesn't do it's job (they have all the evidence and MORE than above), it will be up to the people to fix this, and if you read many forums, it doesn't seem far off now. IE, it is near impossible to buy 9mm ammo etc around my area and many of my relatives say the same (many guns sold out too).
You have a republic, if you can't keep it. Unfortunately for all these pedo's, traitors, etc, it would appear a LARGE portion of the public is planning to take back USA if the military really isn't going to do anything about these traitors. They already loaded up with obama when he made a few plays for guns (see the gun stocks, all went up massively, most quadrupled your money), and now you made them double up for round 2? ROFL. It will be a short civil war I predict, if it comes to it.
Miller should have already had TRIBUNALS and put all these traitors to death by now, but whatever, the forums say he's running out of time quickly (45 days for DNI report, 45 to ID etc everyone involved, 15 for MILLER to act?). Being in a swing state, I fear we'll be in one of the worst places when it goes down. AZ is armed to the teeth, much like TX. It's open carry here, and ammo free in stores pretty much? Ruh, Roh, I sense a wild wild west moment shortly if these idiots don't hand over the machines to senate/people for forensic AUDIT (and not their auditors, who aren't even certified to do it...ROFL, nice try traitors) and show SIGS for every vote ballot.
No, that isn't inciting violence, I'm just reading the room (many rooms...LOL) and pointing out the obvious. IE, the people SEE all the evidence now, hearings in every swing state etc, videos (jeez, evidence is so massive they can't ignore it), etc, and fully understand this guy isn't the guy that won and stores that sell bullets show people prepped everywhere this steal is obvious (empty shelves tell you what's next soon). So, NOT like kamala, where she said they should keep rioting after what, 2B in damages across USA and much more to lives destroyed etc? I'm hoping the military finally does the job before OTHER people do it for them in a much more bloody way that is clearly brewing. That said, HELP USA, not china people. INTEL, not samsung or tsmc if ANY free ride is to be given. It is national security here, in this case, literally. Neither of the other two can be trusted, where INTEL is USA and already working with DOD/Navy on packaging etc.
I'm guessing the 1.9T they just passed has 10's of billions of USA dollars going out to OTHER countries that we don't give a rats behind about. We could build 5 fabs easy on that cash, just stop giving it to UN, WHO, IMF, and any other country that is an enemy or developed (heck, do it all on your own, I don't even care about friends at this point, USA FIRST!). The last bill was 750B going OUT of the country and ~146B for USA citizens that are hurting all over the place? GOVT is the problem, not the solution people. $600 for you after months (maybe another $1400) while 750BILLION went out of USA? WTF? Clearly shoving us to great reset ASAP, again, if someone doesn't stop them, you have no republic, no currency, no assets, etc. All gone soon. They are giving it away as fast as they can.
Even dems have to ask, who's side are these people on? :( Lots of unions just lost pipeline jobs, indians just lost 750m invested in it from many tribes, etc etc. WOW, no respect for indians cash either? Where are the SJW's to protect the indians money? ROFL. I can say whatever about indians, I'm 1/8th (granny was 1/2!) :) Just saying, hypocrites. We won't survive 4 more years of USA last. Obama's 3rd term will bankrupt USA if not stopped.
I didn't vote for or otherwise consent to an income tax, or corporate taxes, or any coercive taxes. And I don't think it's morally legitimate to steal people's money because 51+% of voters in random election cycles vote for the theft every once in a while. It shouldn't be that easy to steal.
What's a typical yield per wafer for something like a flagship mobile SoC? Say for an Apple A14 or a Qualcomm Snapdragon 865/888? I'm trying to get a sense of what 100,000 wafer "starts" per month translates to in terms of hardware.
I assume these are still planned around 300 mm wafers? Is the migration to 450 mm wafers still stalled? It sure seems like a long time has passed on that.
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brucethemoose - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
Between those 3 locations, Austin has the best food and the worst weather by far.Its also right next door to many of Samsung Foundry's potential business partners.
Arsenica - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
A NY site could revive the old Samsung-IBM GAAFET R&D partnership.Politically Schumer and Cuomo could get them the "incentives" they are seeking.
Arsenica - Thursday, February 18, 2021 - link
And speaking of weather, the current cold conditions just forced the shutdown of Samsung's Austin fab so I don't imagine they would be particularly happy about Texas.Another plus for NY is more reliable clean power from Hydro-Québec.
webdoctors - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
?? "Arizona, New York, and Texas"LOL, I'ved lived in Austin and NY and while not AZ I've visited and Austin is easily the best weather of the 3 locations. Allergies would be a much bigger issue than weather. Depending on where in NY, NY definitely has better food.
Its gonna be really tough trying to attract folks to AZ, that towns there are super creepy. Any professional will choose Austin over Scottsdale or Chandler, etc. Forget about NY, the taxes are a killer.
darkswordsman17 - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
How is Scottsdale and Chandler creepy? Let alone compared to Austin (who literally prides themselves on being "weird").Interesting that Arizona has been turning blue in no small part due to the number of professionals moving there, I'm not so sure that its as difficult as you seem to suggest.
webdoctors - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
The crime and human trafficking in AZ. There's 100s of ppl just sitting in the road in the towns there. I was interviewing for some jobs in AZ and I noped the heck out of there.....I could tell the interviewers were trying to shield me from the seedy side of the city.I've driven in almost all the 48 lower states, AZ is the only one where the cops pulled me over on the interstate and said I was "driving erratically and suspiciously", but let me go (??).
twtech - Friday, February 26, 2021 - link
I don't know what area of AZ you were in to have seen all that, but it doesn't match my experience.Intel already has fabs in the Phoenix area, and with TSMC joining, Samsung could join that talent pool if they put their new location there as well.
DougMcC - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
Weird vs creepy. Innovative vs Decaying.FreckledTrout - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
The worst weather? I would love for you to explain that one. Arizona gets hotter and NY has a rough winter with possible hurricanes etc. I would choose Austin over those locations in a heartbeat.quiksilvr - Tuesday, October 19, 2021 - link
Phoenix, Arizona has stable nuclear and solar power tied to the national grid, no snow, no ice, no humidity, no hurricanes, cheap flat land, rock solid road infrastructure, and much closer to the west coast for shipping to Eastern Asia.Austin, TX is locked down to the Texas grid which has screwed Samsung over in the past because of the last snow storm where they had to use shit controllers in their SSDs because their factory was shut down for weeks. Austin constantly loses power due to bad weather, has ice, snow, CRAP road infrastructure, overpriced land, no nuclear power to provide during increment weather (they lock wind farms down too to avoid the wind speed from breaking the motors, natural gas freezes the pipes and no solar when cloudy).
Arizona is the way to go and why TSMC and Intel are building there. Which may be enough reason for Samsung to build there too with all the talent being actually able to afford a house to live close to the foundry. Good luck saying the same about Austin.
quorm - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
Tax abatements to entice businesses should be illegalValantar - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
Seconded. Or, that ought to be reversed a bit: companies demanding tax exemptions to build factories or other businesses should be prosecuted for blackmail. Because that's what it is.Smell This - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
I'm surprised North Carolina didn't get on some of that tax abatement action. There are only around 160 acres left in the Research Triangle Park (RTP) but there is a 'mega-site' with 2,500 acres 20 minutes south of Chapel Hill off Highway 1. The 'winner' gets 'twin-lakes' with your own Nuke Plant (Shearon Harris), the 'Raleigh Executive Jetport' and all the tax-grifting bells & whistles.
Even better: 10 miles south of the mega-site is the City of Sanford, where Highway 1 in Lee County is named the *Jefferson Davis Highway* ( eye roll ). Not a big Chamber of Commerce moment for The Old North State ...
JoeDuarte - Wednesday, March 3, 2021 - link
It's not blackmail. They're not threatening to do harm to anyone, on condition of X or anything else. Making someone an offer is not blackmail. Offering to build a fab somewhere in exchange for a lighter tax bite is just mundane negotiation – they're not threatening to release some politician's d*** pics if they don't agree to Samsung's terms.Spunjji - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
Yup. Godawful race-to-the-bottom nonsense.JoeDuarte - Wednesday, March 3, 2021 - link
The taxes should be illegal, especially income taxes on individuals and businesses. And any kind of tax on investment. Humans don't need these sorts of theft mechanisms to have a civilization, and it's not possible to have a great civilization, with maximal human flourishing and advancement, with such massive and predatory governments weilding unregulated taxing power.Sivar - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
$17 Billion? It's getting so hobbyists can't afford their own fabs anymore.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
It's just inflation. And if your pay isn't getting inflation adjusted, you can always go for a second-hand 200mm 130nm fabValantar - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
Ever since that whole Gamestop debacle, I have had to abandon plans for a new hobby fab in my back yard. Really depressing - I was so looking forward to getting in on some of that sweet 3nm action! Now I suddenly don't have anything to spend my time or (slightly smaller) heaps of money on. Maybe I could try financing an illegal mining operation in some 3rd world country? My heart just isn't in it though. If it wasn't for those pesky kids ... uh, redditors!Silver5urfer - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
When it's Globalist Capitalism currently. It really doesn't matter whether it's SK or US, since all the top 1-2% are the Investors so anywhere it is, the top benefit. Unless it's Chinese. Because CCP investments are not powered by the same top people. Bring it on.Gomez Addams - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
"To build a leading-edge manufacturing facility, Samsung needs rather huge incentives from authorities."This is a flat out lie. They are talking about spending $17B on a new facility and the tax breaks they want add up to less than $1B over twenty years. There is no way those tax breaks are required with that kind of budget. The mathematics do not add up. Effectively, that means the difference is between 17 and $18B. Amortized over twenty years and including depreciation, that is a very small percentage and hardly a deal breaker.
IBM760XL - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
Good call-out. If you can make a profit on a $17B capital investment, it's very likely you can on an $18B investment. Meanwhile, that $40M per year in local tax revenue is likely going to make a significant difference for the residents and local services.Cities and states should stop offering tax abatements. It's a race to the bottom and they'd collectively be better off without them. In most cases it just means more profit for the developers, and in cases where it actually makes a difference in viability, it's sustaining non-economically-viable businesses.
Spunjji - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
"in cases where it actually makes a difference in viability, it's sustaining non-economically-viable businesses" - ain't that just the truth. About time businesses started pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and stopped begging for handouts.0iron - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
Anton is back?Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Wednesday, February 10, 2021 - link
Almost a year since his last post. Nice to see he's still about though, I hope he's been alrightimaheadcase - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
The tax breaks is what kills a community. While it may seem like a advantage in long run, history says otherwise to run down areas. Its really apparent in small towns to see the true nature of it, our town did the same for a tool company here, when the time was up they wanted to renegotiate it, the city didn't want the current deal, because it provided just property tax, and at a huge discounted rate vs other places.The tool company pretty much said, give in to our demands or we leave, the town figured no other building could support them, so they didn't budge. Not only did they leave, they left and went overseas, leaving this huge abandoned building, many outlining buildings, etc.
In less than one year, 900 people lost jobs in a town of 5k people, the result trickled town and small businesses closed, day cares closed.
The site now has vats of oil on it sitting in huge containers rusting away as well which is just great for the creek that runs next to them eventually when they rust through and leak out.
But the kicker is this, our small town literally let them sit there for 10 years tax free, just to prop up the town, then when the town asked them for just %30 tax, they left in a heart beat. It wasn't even a negotiation to them, they didn't come back with "maybe %1" or something, they literally didn't even respond to it or show up to the open city console meeting..they just sent a letter to city attorney letting them know they are leaving.
So now those workers are traveling 40min away to city for jobs, or you can see some at local walmart working min wage...instead of the $20 a hour plus insurance and vacation time, full time they had before.
quorm - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
That sucks. Sounds like the company was ready to leave, and this just gave them a reason to push forward with the plans they already had.Spunjji - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
Absolutely disgusting behaviour but not uncommon.It should be illegal for a company to leave pollutants like that on a site. Hell, it probably is, but who's going to have the funds to prosecute 😣
Bob Todd - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
That sucks, but is kind of apples to oranges. The Austin metro area has over 1M people and the 2nd largest tech market in the USA after Silicon Valley. Nobody controls enough of the job market or economy to have that kind of impact singularly in Austin.Sahrin - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
I mean like, why only 100% tax break? Why not 200%? Or 300%?Those 1,800 jobs will pay a lot of property taxes (and certainly a lot more since Samsung won't be). Isn't that worth giving Samsung a cut? Let's say that the workers are paid $100k on average. That's 180M in annual salary. Samsung is just giving that away. Why not make it worth their while, by giving them 90M as an incentive - just 50% of what they pay in salary.
Come on guys, corporations need to eat too!
AshlayW - Friday, February 12, 2021 - link
Better than China. (Brit here).Vitor - Sunday, February 14, 2021 - link
It is only natural to avoid and negotiate taxes whenever possible. You dont see those companies building big fabs at european countries.Pneumothorax - Friday, February 19, 2021 - link
They've also chosen to ignore silicon's previous darling, California, in their search. I wonder why....I know many posters here decry the tax breaks, but other countries like China and South Korea basically give gigantic incentives either by forcing them in order to sell and partner with other companies in China or heavily subsidizing them as in Korea. Very hard for the US to compete with that.
TheJian - Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - link
No free tax ride. Go somewhere else. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to help your fab (or anything for that matter). You win on your own, or die. As others said, it should be illegal to give tax breaks I DIDN'T VOTE for. I certainly didn't vote to give ANY dollars to a NON USA company (or any country either!). At this point, if it isn't USA first, FU. I'd rather see billions spent on INTEL and I don't even like that idea and I own the stock...ROFL.Samsung, TSMC=CHINA. Some idiot will give them status at some point and all our tech leaves USA again. NO, you want to compete here, do it on your own dime. With Biden in, TSMC could be in china hands in a year. Korean's all the same story if you have a president that is USA LAST.
https://hereistheevidence.com
https://navarroreport.com
Why look at all the evidence above? Just take Time magazines word for it, they literally tell you they broke the laws, stole votes etc. It's all there to "fortify the election" on your behalf...LOL
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-camp...
Read the whole thing, they aren't even afraid to tell you in public, in PRINT.
Or how about James Clapper audio interrogation. Listen to him out a ton of stuff, Pence/Chief Justice Roberts are both pedophiles he says...Compromised, and Rosenstein kept it quiet for leverage over SCOTUS and VP. He is merely verifying exactly what Lin Wood is saying about both.
https://rumble.com/vdf4nn-james-clapper-interrogat...
https://rumble.com/vdganl-james-clapper-interrogat...
https://www.kraken-wood.com/
More stories as they keep coming in from suits etc going on in USA. At some point if the military doesn't do it's job (they have all the evidence and MORE than above), it will be up to the people to fix this, and if you read many forums, it doesn't seem far off now. IE, it is near impossible to buy 9mm ammo etc around my area and many of my relatives say the same (many guns sold out too).
You have a republic, if you can't keep it. Unfortunately for all these pedo's, traitors, etc, it would appear a LARGE portion of the public is planning to take back USA if the military really isn't going to do anything about these traitors. They already loaded up with obama when he made a few plays for guns (see the gun stocks, all went up massively, most quadrupled your money), and now you made them double up for round 2? ROFL. It will be a short civil war I predict, if it comes to it.
Miller should have already had TRIBUNALS and put all these traitors to death by now, but whatever, the forums say he's running out of time quickly (45 days for DNI report, 45 to ID etc everyone involved, 15 for MILLER to act?). Being in a swing state, I fear we'll be in one of the worst places when it goes down. AZ is armed to the teeth, much like TX. It's open carry here, and ammo free in stores pretty much? Ruh, Roh, I sense a wild wild west moment shortly if these idiots don't hand over the machines to senate/people for forensic AUDIT (and not their auditors, who aren't even certified to do it...ROFL, nice try traitors) and show SIGS for every vote ballot.
No, that isn't inciting violence, I'm just reading the room (many rooms...LOL) and pointing out the obvious. IE, the people SEE all the evidence now, hearings in every swing state etc, videos (jeez, evidence is so massive they can't ignore it), etc, and fully understand this guy isn't the guy that won and stores that sell bullets show people prepped everywhere this steal is obvious (empty shelves tell you what's next soon). So, NOT like kamala, where she said they should keep rioting after what, 2B in damages across USA and much more to lives destroyed etc? I'm hoping the military finally does the job before OTHER people do it for them in a much more bloody way that is clearly brewing. That said, HELP USA, not china people. INTEL, not samsung or tsmc if ANY free ride is to be given. It is national security here, in this case, literally. Neither of the other two can be trusted, where INTEL is USA and already working with DOD/Navy on packaging etc.
I'm guessing the 1.9T they just passed has 10's of billions of USA dollars going out to OTHER countries that we don't give a rats behind about. We could build 5 fabs easy on that cash, just stop giving it to UN, WHO, IMF, and any other country that is an enemy or developed (heck, do it all on your own, I don't even care about friends at this point, USA FIRST!). The last bill was 750B going OUT of the country and ~146B for USA citizens that are hurting all over the place? GOVT is the problem, not the solution people. $600 for you after months (maybe another $1400) while 750BILLION went out of USA? WTF? Clearly shoving us to great reset ASAP, again, if someone doesn't stop them, you have no republic, no currency, no assets, etc. All gone soon. They are giving it away as fast as they can.
Even dems have to ask, who's side are these people on? :( Lots of unions just lost pipeline jobs, indians just lost 750m invested in it from many tribes, etc etc. WOW, no respect for indians cash either? Where are the SJW's to protect the indians money? ROFL. I can say whatever about indians, I'm 1/8th (granny was 1/2!) :) Just saying, hypocrites.
We won't survive 4 more years of USA last. Obama's 3rd term will bankrupt USA if not stopped.
JoeDuarte - Wednesday, March 3, 2021 - link
I didn't vote for or otherwise consent to an income tax, or corporate taxes, or any coercive taxes. And I don't think it's morally legitimate to steal people's money because 51+% of voters in random election cycles vote for the theft every once in a while. It shouldn't be that easy to steal.JoeDuarte - Wednesday, March 3, 2021 - link
What's a typical yield per wafer for something like a flagship mobile SoC? Say for an Apple A14 or a Qualcomm Snapdragon 865/888? I'm trying to get a sense of what 100,000 wafer "starts" per month translates to in terms of hardware.I assume these are still planned around 300 mm wafers? Is the migration to 450 mm wafers still stalled? It sure seems like a long time has passed on that.