Things that build their purpose into the ID tend to look good. These are pretty rough around the edges and industrial looking though; I guess cause they are industrial...
Akassa makes pretty much the home / office equivalent. Anodized black AL, and clean CNC edges on the all surfaces. They looks really sick; I have NUC in one for my HTPC.
Ummm yes they can do these chips now. It is hard to evaluate Intel 10nm capacity, but a standard Intel Fab give 35.000 wafers month. Fab 28 is more like 1.5x a standard Fab so, we can assume Intel have now 45.000/50.000 in Israel, 35.000 at Fab 42 and minimum 35.000 at D1X. So yes 115.000/120.000 wafer starts/month capacity allow even these small chips. By the way for the first time Intel is over 1.000.000 ws/month between 22 14 and 10nm nodes.
My bet : 120.000 ws/month on 10nm (Q2), 880.000 ws/month on 14nm, 22nm and some 65nm ???? Another bet for future: Fab42 converted on 7nm in a small time, D1X mod 3 on 7nm from start, Ireland expansion on 7nm. About 10nm capacity, my bet is some or many of actual 14nm lines converted to 10nm during 2021 and 2022, to allow the conversion of Fab 42 to 7nm. This is allowed by the HUGE purchasing of the latest Nikon scanner, capable of both 14nm and 10nm.
Still puts absolute Intel growth of revenue almost 2x that of AMD - at that pace, AMD will not be catching up. AMD will have to keep growth exponential, which is no mean feat. Maybe they will, they're doing well, but at some point Intel is likely to get its act together and I doubt AMD will then still grow with numbers like 50%...
The lowest atoms with 4 cores, highest i7 with 4 cores.... intel is in funny place now. I feel that this product, although looking nice, have no market. its either too weak, too bulky or too pricy. Same thing can be done by android for half the power and price, and if you need x86 then this cpu is so weak that you will be much better with anything but this.
You don't necessarily need a lot of CPU capacity to run a touchscreen interfaced to a CANbus operating a machine in a factory, doing data collection at the same time.
Industrial pricing is always higher. No one gives a rat's ass what they look like when they're inside a control panel.
You need to know the computer isn't going to fail when it's +55 C inside the panel from accumulated heat from half a dozen motor inverters, safety modules, relay banks, power supplies, and so on.
""I feel that this product, although looking nice, have no market. its either too weak, too bulky or too pricey."" ____________________________________________
'Too subsidized,' too. For 12 years Chipzillah has spent tens of billions of dollars polishing this fecal 'nugget.'
12 years? It's been 8 years since Silvermont, which means for Atom's history, good Atom processors have existed over twice as long as bad Atom processors. But even the original Atom processor would've learned better than you by now.
Of course this is all comparable to my Pine64 board using an Allwinner A64, also featuring 4 cores. Right? That's how it works right?
Android at this point is hardly lower-spec than Windows. Atom is very underrated as well, anything at least as new as Goldmont is actually quite usable.
Those are nice-looking units, and the specs aren't bad for what they are intended for. One aspect that's missing, either from the specs or the article is if they have any degree of dust and water protection. Do they have any IP rating?
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psychobriggsy - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
I like the styling, could do with that in the consumer lines (which could use Van Gogh when that comes out for fanless operation).Operandi - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
Things that build their purpose into the ID tend to look good. These are pretty rough around the edges and industrial looking though; I guess cause they are industrial...Akassa makes pretty much the home / office equivalent. Anodized black AL, and clean CNC edges on the all surfaces. They looks really sick; I have NUC in one for my HTPC.
Gondalf - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
Ummm yes they can do these chips now. It is hard to evaluate Intel 10nm capacity, but a standard Intel Fab give 35.000 wafers month. Fab 28 is more like 1.5x a standard Fab so, we can assume Intel have now 45.000/50.000 in Israel, 35.000 at Fab 42 and minimum 35.000 at D1X.So yes 115.000/120.000 wafer starts/month capacity allow even these small chips.
By the way for the first time Intel is over 1.000.000 ws/month between 22 14 and 10nm nodes.
IanCutress - Tuesday, February 2, 2021 - link
How much of those wafer starts/month are on which node though. That's the key question.Gondalf - Thursday, February 4, 2021 - link
My bet : 120.000 ws/month on 10nm (Q2), 880.000 ws/month on 14nm, 22nm and some 65nm ????Another bet for future: Fab42 converted on 7nm in a small time, D1X mod 3 on 7nm from start, Ireland expansion on 7nm. About 10nm capacity, my bet is some or many of actual 14nm lines converted to 10nm during 2021 and 2022, to allow the conversion of Fab 42 to 7nm.
This is allowed by the HUGE purchasing of the latest Nikon scanner, capable of both 14nm and 10nm.
Only ideas, i have not raw data.
DigitalFreak - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
'Now that Intel has sufficient capacity for its demand' aka AMD is stealing their lunch.m53 - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
2019 revenue $71.965B2020 revenue $77.867B
I guess, not a good thief. :)
Deicidium369 - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
Increased revenues by 3/5th of an AMD... terrible thieves indeedAMD did destroy Intel in the ultra high margin Bicycle segment
buufball - Sunday, February 7, 2021 - link
The Intel "sandy-crotch" is strong in this comment section....If 2019 was 71b and 2020 was 77b, thats only 8.4% gain.. and one of intels best years....
AMD was <6b in 2019 and is now >9.5b in 2020... thats a 58% gain buddy.
Nah, no stealing going on here!
jospoortvliet - Thursday, February 11, 2021 - link
Still puts absolute Intel growth of revenue almost 2x that of AMD - at that pace, AMD will not be catching up. AMD will have to keep growth exponential, which is no mean feat. Maybe they will, they're doing well, but at some point Intel is likely to get its act together and I doubt AMD will then still grow with numbers like 50%...deil - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
The lowest atoms with 4 cores, highest i7 with 4 cores.... intel is in funny place now.I feel that this product, although looking nice, have no market.
its either too weak, too bulky or too pricy.
Same thing can be done by android for half the power and price,
and if you need x86 then this cpu is so weak that you will be much better with anything but this.
evilspoons - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
You don't necessarily need a lot of CPU capacity to run a touchscreen interfaced to a CANbus operating a machine in a factory, doing data collection at the same time.Industrial pricing is always higher. No one gives a rat's ass what they look like when they're inside a control panel.
You need to know the computer isn't going to fail when it's +55 C inside the panel from accumulated heat from half a dozen motor inverters, safety modules, relay banks, power supplies, and so on.
Smell This - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
""I feel that this product, although looking nice, have no market. its either too weak, too bulky or too pricey.""____________________________________________
'Too subsidized,' too. For 12 years Chipzillah has spent tens of billions of dollars polishing this fecal 'nugget.'
lmcd - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
12 years? It's been 8 years since Silvermont, which means for Atom's history, good Atom processors have existed over twice as long as bad Atom processors. But even the original Atom processor would've learned better than you by now.lmcd - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
Of course this is all comparable to my Pine64 board using an Allwinner A64, also featuring 4 cores. Right? That's how it works right?Android at this point is hardly lower-spec than Windows. Atom is very underrated as well, anything at least as new as Goldmont is actually quite usable.
Deicidium369 - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
"if you need x86 then this cpu is so weak that you will be much better with anything but this"Spoken like one of the Armchair Experts on Everything...
Those "so weak" Atoms are perfect for this application - not like they are running Cinebench on them 24x7
eastcoast_pete - Saturday, February 6, 2021 - link
Those are nice-looking units, and the specs aren't bad for what they are intended for. One aspect that's missing, either from the specs or the article is if they have any degree of dust and water protection. Do they have any IP rating?mandssystem - Monday, November 15, 2021 - link
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