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  • Gothmoth - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    honestly, who is noticing such QD1 performance increases in SATA drives? i have 5 year old SATA SSD that feel as fast as the newest iteration of drives. benchmarks.. yeah!
  • Valantar - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    Random QD1 performance is exactly what you might notice though, as that's the type of spur-of-the-moment load that largely constitutes the feeling of "responsiveness" in a system. Sequential speeds on the other hand? Those are borderline meaningless in consumer workloads.
  • zodiacfml - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    yes
  • StrangerGuy - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link

    Even for QD1 it's still gonna take an abnormally low IOPS that is way below the spec of an average SATA SSD to detect a real world difference.
  • bug77 - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link

    Not really. When you fire up Windows, Photoshop or something like that, you need to read hundreds of GBs. Granted, it's not all random reads, but the 4k random read of these drives is ~50MB/s.
  • at_clucks - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link

    Hundreds of MB perhaps, definitely not GB.
  • MDD1963 - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link

    The 1 TB unit is now interesting! (Will have to compare it's prices to my old standby Crucial MX500 for which I've used in 10-15 clients' laptop upgrades)
  • bug77 - Sunday, January 24, 2021 - link

    Right, MB. Mistyped.
  • Jorgp2 - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    That's expensive
  • bug77 - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link

    I was thinking the opposite: at $250 I can get rid of my last mechanical drive. Though I wouldn't mind stumbling upon a sale.
  • Chaitanya - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    price jump between each capacity is quite high.
  • Peskarik - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    Price jump? Per GB price is decreasing with each jump.
  • Chaitanya - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    Between 2TB and 4TB its staying the same.
  • Death666Angel - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    Unless you can calculate, then you see that 2x269.99 is 539.98, so 4TB 10USD cheaper than 2x2TB.
  • sonny73n - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    $10 is for the second aluminum housing. So yeah, price per GB between 2TB and 4TB is the same.
  • Spunjji - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link

    $10 for an aluminium housing? You must be joking. That's probably closer to the bulk cost of the housing, PCB *and* the controller.

    The NAND doesn't get any cheaper, so there you go.
  • StrangerGuy - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link

    When generic Displayport to VGA adaptors can be had for $2, it's pretty safe to make an educated guess that the BoM of the SSD housing is somewhere in the pennies range.
  • aaronwt - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    But still much less than the launch prices of the 860 EVO.
  • MDD1963 - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link

    It's almost like they roughly double the price each time capacity doubles....! (Odd, is it not?)
  • TelstarTOS - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    Test it ASAP. Still pricey though.
  • ambhaiji - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    The only way the prices stay that high is if they still produce the 860 series.
  • Koenig168 - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    The MSRP is meaningless. Street prices will drop quickly to reflect market reality so I wouldn't worry too much about these SSDs being expensive just because of the MSRP. Anyway, the 870 Evo is a welcome update to the 860 Evo which is a solid and reliable performer.
  • Silver5urfer - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    4TB model is what is interesting to me, all for my gaming needs a 4TB SATA SSD with high endurance is perfect. Vs the 860 PRO MLC it is literally 1/2 of the TBW, 2400TBW for 4TB on EVO TLC where as the PRO MLC has 4800TBW. 2TB PRO has the same endurance as this 4TB EVO.

    The price, on Amazon the 860 PRO has hit a bit lower than that of Samsung official store $729 Samsung store vs $689. Then if we compare the 870 EVO 4TB MSRP launch price it's 23% less expensive than the Amazon pricing. I think over the time it will drop by 50-80USD and maybe more depending on the market.

    I hope Samsung launches 870 PRO with 8TB MLC and put an end to the High Capacity need for Consumer and Prosumer market.

    I thought they abandoned the SATA esp after the last AT article mentioning how it's almost dead, while I was certainly against the notion because so many consumer devices use SATA and lot of people prefer SATA more than NVMe due to limited market penetration and maybe still not saturated. I'm glad to see Samsung is still in the SATA dept with higher quality SSDs, hated that 980 PRO abandoned MLC for NVMe and upselling with brand tax bs. This is more reasonable.
  • Billy Tallis - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    Why do you think you need high write endurance for a drive that's mostly storing games? I don't see how you could download 1TB of games per day; I doubt the gaming industry collectively produces that much new content and patches, to say nothing of your ability to meaningfully consume such content.
  • Silver5urfer - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link

    I already have the games I want to pla on Mechanical HDD. Not very interested in new games because most of them are Multiplayer with some politics shoved in them. Some of the setups are heavily compressed. So when I install it needs high speed performance. Other wise constant install or uninstall. Plus modding so I may have to use multiple copies of same game. I have been using an MLC drive since 5 years for gaming never experienced any issues. Yes it doesn't need an MLC drive maybe but I want to pay for a good technology. Not inferior technology since I do not replace PC for mininum 5+ years.
  • keebs63 - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    Check your SMART data with something like CrystalDiskInfo to see how many TBW your current drives have. As Billy pointed out, the 2400TBW warrantied rating for the 4TB equates to 1TB+ each day, every day over the 5 year warranty period.
  • zodiacfml - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    isnt this too expensive for SATA?
  • GeoffreyA - Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - link

    Even though it's not much of a difference, nice to see an update to the 860 Evo. Hopefully, Samsung will continue updating their SATA drives like this through the years.
  • netbearpl - Tuesday, February 2, 2021 - link

    Hi! Will Samsung release m.2 (sata) version of 870 evo? Any info on that? Thank you!

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