Well it is the same thing with mobile socs. You have to release it first then manufacturers can start to developing products based on that soc or controller. Just like pci 6.0 spesifications are allready done. And it will take some time to see pci 5.0 motherboards to come to the market.
I'd like to see 2.5" drives start using USB in place of SATA. Two to four times the bandwidth, works equally well internally and externally, only requires a single cable.
I believe DisplayPort over type c is not accounted towards the usb bandwidth. The problem is due to how usb protocol operates. It has limited support for queuing, which is fine for mechanical drives but not ideal for SSDs
I honestly don't see why more cheap systems don't just use eMMC-based flash for internal storage. The standard has improved a lot since the first Bay Trail budget systems shipped with 32GB of soldered down storage. It's faster and better than it was before and generally sufficient for day-to-day low demand usage. Saves the USB ports for things like a wireless mouse or a USB stick and keeps system costs down.
If you rely USB interface you will need thunderbolt 4 since it can support 20 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2x2 (ffs I hate this name). TB 3 can only support usb 3.2 gen 2x1.
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R3MF - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
I like these January updates from Phison:Announcing what we might eventually be able to buy 18 months or more into the future!
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14728/phison-previe...
haukionkannel - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
Well it is the same thing with mobile socs. You have to release it first then manufacturers can start to developing products based on that soc or controller.Just like pci 6.0 spesifications are allready done. And it will take some time to see pci 5.0 motherboards to come to the market.
PixyMisa - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
I'd like to see 2.5" drives start using USB in place of SATA. Two to four times the bandwidth, works equally well internally and externally, only requires a single cable.Maltz - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
... and no TRIM support. (How is it that USB STILL doesn't have a mechanism for that??)Billy Tallis - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
These days, anything using USB Attached SCSI Protocol (UASP) should support TRIM with no trouble.Maltz - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
Oh. I happily stand corrected! Now if only more thumb drives supported it! (Gotta complain about something... this is the internet!)Schugy - Saturday, January 16, 2021 - link
"Should support" but often it isn't implemented correctly. There's a table on smartmontools(dot)org.James5mith - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
You want your SSD to fight for pooled resources with your mouse, keyboard, webcam, possibly monitor?That seems like an awful idea.
erinadreno - Saturday, January 16, 2021 - link
I believe DisplayPort over type c is not accounted towards the usb bandwidth. The problem is due to how usb protocol operates. It has limited support for queuing, which is fine for mechanical drives but not ideal for SSDsdontlistentome - Monday, January 18, 2021 - link
Cheap USB hubs instead of expensive controller cards... cheaper way to build a media server. Downsides - latency is higher and CPU overhead.PeachNCream - Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - link
I honestly don't see why more cheap systems don't just use eMMC-based flash for internal storage. The standard has improved a lot since the first Bay Trail budget systems shipped with 32GB of soldered down storage. It's faster and better than it was before and generally sufficient for day-to-day low demand usage. Saves the USB ports for things like a wireless mouse or a USB stick and keeps system costs down.vladx - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
The big question is can you take advantage of the full 20Gb/s bandwidth connecting it to a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 port?Eliadbu - Thursday, January 28, 2021 - link
If you rely USB interface you will need thunderbolt 4 since it can support 20 Gbps USB 3.2 gen 2x2 (ffs I hate this name). TB 3 can only support usb 3.2 gen 2x1.