"A key difference between the new MAGNUS ONE and the previous flagships from an upgradability viewpoint is the user-replaceable discrete GPU. As long as the GPU to be installed consumes 220W at the maximum and is not longer than 230mm..." __________________________________________________________
At least you could sell the GeForce RTX 3070, and replace it with a Radeon 6700 XT
I'm curious how loud it's going to be. I see a 40/50mm fan in the PSU. Unless the PSU gets most of it's cooling from air pulled through by fans elsewhere that tiny fan is a worrying sign because it can't move enough air to keep a high wattage PSU cool without screaming.
Its a Platinum rated PSU so should be generating almost no waste heat so if its designed right it should be silent at moderate loads. I've used 1U server PSUs with 40mm fans that stay very quiet under low load and thats not really a design consideration there.
The real problem is going to be laptop grade cooling components in the garbage NUC compute board. As everyone knows Intel isn't exactly winning any efficiency metrics these days so a small blower fan with minimal heatsink in tiny enclosure probably wasn't a very good choice.
You're probably right about the PSU - there probably won't be more than 35W of heat to remove even under full-load, so the CPU cooler is definitely going to be more of a problem.
However, it is significant that there will be 3 different frequencies of noise - GPU fans, then CPU fan, then the little 40mm. That's going to be quite the symphony 😬
Nah... if its as efficient as its supposed to be it should be generating less than 5% of its capacity in heat. A 40mm fan at 2000'ish RPM should be able to move enough air to dissipate that much heat and at that speed it would be very quiet. A CPU and GPU creating 500 watts of heat however is going to need a lot of air flow and yeah, you'll hear it.
Wait, hold up a second - this has a _major_ hardware announcement hidden in it: a new NUC Extreme Compute Element, with a desktop CPU! The currently launched NUC 9 Extreme uses soldered mobile (9980HX?) CPUs only, while this seemingly moves to a (socketed!) 65W desktop CPU. It's clear from the design, layout and rear I/O that this is an updated NUC (10?) Extreme-based design. That's a major improvement!
Yeah I thought this was NUC based also based on the pics. Not being based on the awful NUC format gives this a chance of not being garbage. Since its not NUC based it would be been better to see AMD obviously, and a Flex ATX PSU would be nice to see to have easy replacement options. Its also still overpriced vs. building your own ITX box but oh well, but better than it looked at first.
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Operandi - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
Only Intel could come up with a standard this stupid. You can get much better results with standard iTX components in a Ghost S1 or similar.tomumu - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
i7-10700 is Comet Lake, not Coffee Lakeingwe - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
I really like this, though it is a bit pricey. I wish this would be AMD though.Gomez Addams - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
Definitely! A 5800X with a 3080 would be a really nice combination in one of these boxes. It might get a bit hot though. ;)Smell This - Sunday, January 17, 2021 - link
"A key difference between the new MAGNUS ONE and the previous flagships from an upgradability viewpoint is the user-replaceable discrete GPU. As long as the GPU to be installed consumes 220W at the maximum and is not longer than 230mm..."__________________________________________________________
At least you could sell the GeForce RTX 3070, and replace it with a Radeon 6700 XT
DanNeely - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
I'm curious how loud it's going to be. I see a 40/50mm fan in the PSU. Unless the PSU gets most of it's cooling from air pulled through by fans elsewhere that tiny fan is a worrying sign because it can't move enough air to keep a high wattage PSU cool without screaming.Operandi - Thursday, January 14, 2021 - link
Its a Platinum rated PSU so should be generating almost no waste heat so if its designed right it should be silent at moderate loads. I've used 1U server PSUs with 40mm fans that stay very quiet under low load and thats not really a design consideration there.The real problem is going to be laptop grade cooling components in the garbage NUC compute board. As everyone knows Intel isn't exactly winning any efficiency metrics these days so a small blower fan with minimal heatsink in tiny enclosure probably wasn't a very good choice.
Spunjji - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
You're probably right about the PSU - there probably won't be more than 35W of heat to remove even under full-load, so the CPU cooler is definitely going to be more of a problem.However, it is significant that there will be 3 different frequencies of noise - GPU fans, then CPU fan, then the little 40mm. That's going to be quite the symphony 😬
Operandi - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
Nah... if its as efficient as its supposed to be it should be generating less than 5% of its capacity in heat. A 40mm fan at 2000'ish RPM should be able to move enough air to dissipate that much heat and at that speed it would be very quiet. A CPU and GPU creating 500 watts of heat however is going to need a lot of air flow and yeah, you'll hear it.Valantar - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
Wait, hold up a second - this has a _major_ hardware announcement hidden in it: a new NUC Extreme Compute Element, with a desktop CPU! The currently launched NUC 9 Extreme uses soldered mobile (9980HX?) CPUs only, while this seemingly moves to a (socketed!) 65W desktop CPU. It's clear from the design, layout and rear I/O that this is an updated NUC (10?) Extreme-based design. That's a major improvement!edzieba - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
This is a custom Zotac board, not anything to do with Ghost Canyon other than looking similar.Operandi - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
Yeah I thought this was NUC based also based on the pics. Not being based on the awful NUC format gives this a chance of not being garbage. Since its not NUC based it would be been better to see AMD obviously, and a Flex ATX PSU would be nice to see to have easy replacement options. Its also still overpriced vs. building your own ITX box but oh well, but better than it looked at first.Spunjji - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
It certainly *looks* like one. Interesting decision if true.