The improvements over Turing seem healthy to me, but yeah it's a shame it's not on TSMC 7 nm from a technical perspective. From an availability and price perspective, as bad as it might seem now, I think it'd be a lot worse if it were on TSMC 7 nm.
You could try to get a desktop 3060Ti card and undervolt it? That should give you something like 3070L performance, allowing some wiggle room for the notebook chips having a better bin.
"L" sounds good, previously it was "M", but L would suffice. At least they're not trying to hide the fact that they're using different chips. Better than expected.
I don't think Nvidia are being quite that clear - they just seem to say "30x0 Laptop", and I guess it depends on how you read it as to whether it looks like a different product or the same product in a laptop.
Thanks Ryan, hope you'll have a chance to put out a full and in-depth review of at least one of these! Regarding the "L" series of the RTX3000 line, yes, they're better (some, a bit, some more for certain tasks) than the 2000, but it's really unfortunate that NVIDIA has gone back to label smaller GPUs for mobile with the naming of the larger desktop chips. The mobile 3080 is nowhere near the numbers (CUDA cores etc) that the desktop 3080 has. That is a significant step back from Turing; I guess NVIDIA just didn't want to roll out full versions of undervolted and lower-clocked large dies, which is understandable as a commercial decision, but sort-of sucks for us dGPU laptop buyers.
I have an HP Omen 17 laptop with an RTX 2080 in it that's been just the perfect computer for what I do. I think it's mostly desktop hardware because it has a 330 watt power supply and is pretty bulky for a laptop. What is the equivalent to my setup in what's coming out now?
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romrunning - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
"The first RTX 30 series laptops will go on sale later this month, with retail availability expected on January 26th."Make sure you get in line now to get one of those two laptops! ;)
Yojimbo - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
Simply not true...Spunjji - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
To be fair - if they've been binning these ever since Ampere launched, they might actually have a few built up to sell.yeeeeman - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
such a shame they didn't bake these on tsmc 7nm. the improvements over turing are quite small.Yojimbo - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
The improvements over Turing seem healthy to me, but yeah it's a shame it's not on TSMC 7 nm from a technical perspective. From an availability and price perspective, as bad as it might seem now, I think it'd be a lot worse if it were on TSMC 7 nm.RSAUser - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
The improvements are near non-existent.niva - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
We will know for sure once independent reviewers get their hands on them, but you need to learn to read simple charts.Spunjji - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
Gotta agree there. ~40% performance improvement (?) isn't half bad, and TSMC 7nm is rammed.lmcd - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
I want a 3070 with that power consumption! Seriously, I have no idea how an ITX version of any of these cards is gonna happen.brucethemoose - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
I bet dotage will stuff mobile 3070 into a little box, if they haven't already.brucethemoose - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
*Zotaclmcd - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
Yea that doesn't go in my existing case though :(equilla - Saturday, February 20, 2021 - link
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You could try to get a desktop 3060Ti card and undervolt it? That should give you something like 3070L performance, allowing some wiggle room for the notebook chips having a better bin.s.yu - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
"L" sounds good, previously it was "M", but L would suffice. At least they're not trying to hide the fact that they're using different chips. Better than expected.Spunjji - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
I don't think Nvidia are being quite that clear - they just seem to say "30x0 Laptop", and I guess it depends on how you read it as to whether it looks like a different product or the same product in a laptop.s.yu - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
I can't speak for everybody but I personally can't read it the latter way.Spunjji - Friday, January 15, 2021 - link
Me neither, but I read this stuff all the time so I try not to assume how it looks to neophytesrsandru - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
Please define 'available' ...eastcoast_pete - Sunday, January 17, 2021 - link
Thanks Ryan, hope you'll have a chance to put out a full and in-depth review of at least one of these!Regarding the "L" series of the RTX3000 line, yes, they're better (some, a bit, some more for certain tasks) than the 2000, but it's really unfortunate that NVIDIA has gone back to label smaller GPUs for mobile with the naming of the larger desktop chips. The mobile 3080 is nowhere near the numbers (CUDA cores etc) that the desktop 3080 has. That is a significant step back from Turing; I guess NVIDIA just didn't want to roll out full versions of undervolted and lower-clocked large dies, which is understandable as a commercial decision, but sort-of sucks for us dGPU laptop buyers.
herrstreet - Thursday, February 4, 2021 - link
I have an HP Omen 17 laptop with an RTX 2080 in it that's been just the perfect computer for what I do. I think it's mostly desktop hardware because it has a 330 watt power supply and is pretty bulky for a laptop. What is the equivalent to my setup in what's coming out now?equilla - Saturday, February 20, 2021 - link
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