One thing that I often wonder about laptops that dump a lot of heat next to one hinge, do the hinges wear out at different rates?
That being said, if it's $1000 for the i5 Tiger Lake, GTX1650Ti, 16:10 400nit FHD, 16GB RAM, 256GB NVMe, 63Whr battery, and 1TB4, then the pricing doesn't seem too bad.
This has been a design trend for a long time. Macbooks have exhausted heat onto the hinge\screen for 15 years. It used to be a problem with the backlighting was CCFL because the excess heat would kill the invertor but that's mostly irrelevant now with LED lighting as the driver is tiny enough to integrate onto the motherboard.
Non-accessible DDR4 is an irritating tradeoff. It has the downside the it cannot be upgraded (same as always-soldered-down LPDDR4X), but does not have the 1.5x greater speeds of LPDDR4X.
Yup, soldered DDR4 is a deal-breaker. Why not just make the laptop thicker and add 2 ram slots, a full sized SD reader and 2 more USB-C ports because people will absolutely use that TB4 for charging.
It's like manufacturers think it a sin to add any more chassis thickness. Well, at least Apple had the courage to make their MacBooks thicker last year after lots of consumer feedback.
Offering 16gb of RAM at the $1k level is a pretty compelling response when you get owned by the CPU that you don't produce yourself. I think this is as good as they can do.
Ultimately, Microsoft needs to get their platforms/frameworks lined up in a single direction for the future. A lot of the Apple Silicon performance comes from the intersection of their custom chip design and dev environment. Quallcomm's monopolistic mediocrity is only half the story.
I, myself, upgraded from a 16GB Intel-based Mac to an 8GB Apple Silicon Macbook Air. The Apple Silicon Macbook Air definitely feels like a 16GB+ computer despite having only 8GB of RAM.
That is definitely intriguing. I wasn't suggesting that the HP was better, but only that HP probably has the right response, given Wintel's shortcomings.
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jeremyshaw - Sunday, January 10, 2021 - link
One thing that I often wonder about laptops that dump a lot of heat next to one hinge, do the hinges wear out at different rates?That being said, if it's $1000 for the i5 Tiger Lake, GTX1650Ti, 16:10 400nit FHD, 16GB RAM, 256GB NVMe, 63Whr battery, and 1TB4, then the pricing doesn't seem too bad.
Samus - Sunday, January 10, 2021 - link
This has been a design trend for a long time. Macbooks have exhausted heat onto the hinge\screen for 15 years. It used to be a problem with the backlighting was CCFL because the excess heat would kill the invertor but that's mostly irrelevant now with LED lighting as the driver is tiny enough to integrate onto the motherboard.KaarlisK - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Non-accessible DDR4 is an irritating tradeoff. It has the downside the it cannot be upgraded (same as always-soldered-down LPDDR4X), but does not have the 1.5x greater speeds of LPDDR4X.Prestissimo - Monday, January 18, 2021 - link
Yup, soldered DDR4 is a deal-breaker. Why not just make the laptop thicker and add 2 ram slots, a full sized SD reader and 2 more USB-C ports because people will absolutely use that TB4 for charging.It's like manufacturers think it a sin to add any more chassis thickness. Well, at least Apple had the courage to make their MacBooks thicker last year after lots of consumer feedback.
scineram - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Not Cézanne, not interesting.lemurbutton - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Not Apple Silicon, not interested.nico_mach - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Offering 16gb of RAM at the $1k level is a pretty compelling response when you get owned by the CPU that you don't produce yourself. I think this is as good as they can do.Ultimately, Microsoft needs to get their platforms/frameworks lined up in a single direction for the future. A lot of the Apple Silicon performance comes from the intersection of their custom chip design and dev environment. Quallcomm's monopolistic mediocrity is only half the story.
lemurbutton - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Most tests suggest that Apple Silicon's 8GB memory integrated into the SoC is more like 16GB.lemurbutton - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
I, myself, upgraded from a 16GB Intel-based Mac to an 8GB Apple Silicon Macbook Air. The Apple Silicon Macbook Air definitely feels like a 16GB+ computer despite having only 8GB of RAM.nico_mach - Tuesday, January 12, 2021 - link
That is definitely intriguing. I wasn't suggesting that the HP was better, but only that HP probably has the right response, given Wintel's shortcomings.medi05 - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Let's pretend that 5nm M1 is something extraordinary next to 4000 series 15W Ryzen, shall we.lemurbutton - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Uhhh. it'd destroy Ryzen even if it's 7nm.Sahrin - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
No Cezanne. Is DOA.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
It doesn't have the brand I like, it's screwed.5080 - Monday, January 11, 2021 - link
Btw. the included Intel AX201 supports WiFi 6E and not just WiFi6.6E routers are finally starting to be rolled out from all major manufacturers.
vladx - Wednesday, January 13, 2021 - link
"Btw. the included Intel AX201 supports WiFi 6E and not just WiFi6."You're confusing Intel AX201 with AX210 which indeed supports 6E.