I've now got a 3 month old backorder, they told me maybe before the end of the month, those early September backorders will all be delivered. 4 months to fulfill the day one orders.
If the rumor mill sites can be trusted (always debatable), you'll get to hear about a 3080 TI (same core count as 3090, 20GB ram) that you won't be able to buy for $1000.
I assume the announcement of a new part will coincide with the availability of the old one. IE, supply catches up so they need a better model to stoke demand again.
No need for rumors, a "X-1 Ti follows the top-end X model proving the same or better performance for less money" cycle occurs every single generation and has for pretty much a decade now, with the better-and-cheaper card usually arriving 6 months after generation launch. Any faux-shock at such an expected turn of events convinces nobody.
Normally the supply issues would be a big deal, but PS5/XBOX etc are all encountering issues. There's a pandemic going on, and these sorts of things are at the back of the list of essential items to produce with a lockdown....
So I think its ok to cut the big boys some slack this time.
Pandemic according to WHO. WHO changed "pandemic" definition 2009, removing severity and mortality as factors. With the current definition yearly flu can be classified as pandemic. With the old definition corona would not be classified as pandemic.
Go on CDC website and look at total deaths from all causes. 2018 full year was higher than 2020 till and including 17.12. There is NO pandemic.
John Hopkins evaluated mortality in 2020, there is blatant misclassification of causes: "...When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes. This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19... "
CBS News article from November 13: "Suicide claimed more Japanese lives in October than 10 months of COVID."
These are NOT conspiracy theorists, these are official sources, mate. If you only read headlines and watch TV for information, and too lazy to dig just a bit further, well...
OK, I'll bite. Sigh. I went to the cdc.gov website, and of course, it appears they do not report total deaths for 2020, maybe because the year is not finished? Neither is 2019 there, maybe because the data is not yet fully in. 2018 is the latest full year available, which is the year you picked.
The John Hopkins research you quoted was from a staff member and was not peer reviewed or published, and has now been retracted because it was full of shitty errors. You can read more about the issues with it from John Hopkins themselves: https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/12/publ...
In other words piss off with this rubbish.
I won't even bother with your implication that there is something wrong with WHO changing their pandemic definitions in 2009 "to be ready for the 2020 COVID pandemic." That was when a lot of pandemic planning was going on, in the US and elsewhere, as the US president in 2009-17 was for some strange reason actually competent in planning for future disasters. In the UK, we had the same thing with Tony Blair and the guy after him. Of course in both countries this prep work got pissed away by various shiny-faced incompetents that followed them.
BTW, do you know why there is never any inflation? Change of inflation computation approach in the Clinton era. It's just planning, you know.
Is peer reviewed paper about mask inefficiency acceptable for you (from Annals of Internal Medicine)? Or Fauci's own words about Ct>35 only showing dead nucleotides? Or how about "Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic", co-written by Fauci? Antibody-dependent enhancement? Pathogenic priming?
How about thalidomide crisis which only reared its head 2 years after the drug was released for use? What about "Cancer risk associated with simian virus 40 contaminated polio vaccine"? Bill Gates 2010 TED "Innovating to zero" with phrase like "Population is headed up to about 9 billion. If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10-15%."
You believe what you want to believe. Given historical precedent I do not believe in benevolent governments and sweet and fluffy pharma companies (biggest lobbyists in DC, bigger than MIC, big oil or banks).
I suggest you take an anger management course as well.
Am I anti-vaccination? No. I have been vaccinated. Am I covid-virus-denier? No, I am not. "Never let a good crisis go to waste". I like that one from Churchill. My favourite is Juncker's one: "We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."
I am sorry dude for the terrible day that caused you to write that post, I really hope your days are better than that one. I can get in your argument and explain why is superficial, but It won't solve the issue. Your frustration comes from elsewhere, find it and your mood will improve.
What they fail to mention is that people with underlying conditions are more likely to die from COVID-19. So maybe heart disease, diabetes, and other conditions may have been a factor but COVID-19 more often then not was partially responsible for those deaths.
Got a 3080 FE on launch day - no bot just luck. Got 2 Gigabyte 3090 OC from a well known retailer on launch day. Got 2 6900XTs from same retailer on launch day. Got 5900X and 5950X on launch day - all MSRP. Turns out that when you do significant business with some well known retailers they tend to make sure you get the hot products you want. Now the 3080 sits on a shelf along with 1 of the 6900XTs (1 returned for refund, since it is useless at 4k).. 3080 will go to my bro in law... 6900XT will hold down the shelf along with a VII and a 5700XT.
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TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - link
Until I can actually buy an RTX 3080, I don't want to hear about anything else.ExarKun333 - Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - link
Thank you. This comment x1000shabby - Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - link
Totally 👍romrunning - Thursday, December 17, 2020 - link
Same!I'm guessing there will be no commenting allowed on the stream. XD
Alistair - Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - link
I've now got a 3 month old backorder, they told me maybe before the end of the month, those early September backorders will all be delivered. 4 months to fulfill the day one orders.shabby - Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - link
This supply issue should show up in their quarterly results, let's wait and see.hifiaudio2 - Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - link
There were reports of millions of $ sold to miners. I expect you will see a net positive in those reports.hifiaudio2 - Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - link
*in those resultsDuwelon - Monday, December 21, 2020 - link
I thought Nvidia insisted on no preorders for the 30 series, what place let you pre order?DanNeely - Thursday, December 17, 2020 - link
If the rumor mill sites can be trusted (always debatable), you'll get to hear about a 3080 TI (same core count as 3090, 20GB ram) that you won't be able to buy for $1000.michael2k - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
I assume the announcement of a new part will coincide with the availability of the old one. IE, supply catches up so they need a better model to stoke demand again.edzieba - Monday, December 21, 2020 - link
No need for rumors, a "X-1 Ti follows the top-end X model proving the same or better performance for less money" cycle occurs every single generation and has for pretty much a decade now, with the better-and-cheaper card usually arriving 6 months after generation launch. Any faux-shock at such an expected turn of events convinces nobody.catavalon21 - Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - link
Until I can actually read a review of an RTX 3080, I don't want to hear about anything else.catavalon21 - Wednesday, December 23, 2020 - link
...or any RTX 3xxx cardDug - Saturday, December 26, 2020 - link
Well, you know, the fires in California that haven't been going on all fall and winter are the cause.BlueScreenJunky - Thursday, December 17, 2020 - link
Are they going to announce the actual release date for the 3080 ?webdoctors - Thursday, December 17, 2020 - link
Normally the supply issues would be a big deal, but PS5/XBOX etc are all encountering issues. There's a pandemic going on, and these sorts of things are at the back of the list of essential items to produce with a lockdown....So I think its ok to cut the big boys some slack this time.
shabby - Thursday, December 17, 2020 - link
Tell that to the shareholders of these companies.Peskarik - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
Pandemic according to WHO. WHO changed "pandemic" definition 2009, removing severity and mortality as factors. With the current definition yearly flu can be classified as pandemic. With the old definition corona would not be classified as pandemic.Go on CDC website and look at total deaths from all causes. 2018 full year was higher than 2020 till and including 17.12. There is NO pandemic.
John Hopkins evaluated mortality in 2020, there is blatant misclassification of causes:
"...When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes. This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19... "
CBS News article from November 13: "Suicide claimed more Japanese lives in October than 10 months of COVID."
These are NOT conspiracy theorists, these are official sources, mate.
If you only read headlines and watch TV for information, and too lazy to dig just a bit further, well...
Spunjji - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
Would you kindly either stop spreading disinformation or shut the fuck up entirely. Your choice.Peskarik - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
Enjoy your genetic therapy, sir.Peskarik - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC71426..."Pathogenic priming likely contributes to serious and critical illness and mortality in COVID-19 via autoimmunity"
Enjoy your jab
Qasar - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
yea ok sure, i guess you believe the earth is flat too ?Tomatotech - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
OK, I'll bite. Sigh. I went to the cdc.gov website, and of course, it appears they do not report total deaths for 2020, maybe because the year is not finished? Neither is 2019 there, maybe because the data is not yet fully in. 2018 is the latest full year available, which is the year you picked.The CDC chart you need to look at is here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_... It clearly shows the excess deaths.
The John Hopkins research you quoted was from a staff member and was not peer reviewed or published, and has now been retracted because it was full of shitty errors. You can read more about the issues with it from John Hopkins themselves: https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/12/publ...
In other words piss off with this rubbish.
I won't even bother with your implication that there is something wrong with WHO changing their pandemic definitions in 2009 "to be ready for the 2020 COVID pandemic." That was when a lot of pandemic planning was going on, in the US and elsewhere, as the US president in 2009-17 was for some strange reason actually competent in planning for future disasters. In the UK, we had the same thing with Tony Blair and the guy after him. Of course in both countries this prep work got pissed away by various shiny-faced incompetents that followed them.
Peskarik - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
One thing you are right about, there has been a lot of planning.Peskarik - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
BTW, do you know why there is never any inflation? Change of inflation computation approach in the Clinton era. It's just planning, you know.Is peer reviewed paper about mask inefficiency acceptable for you (from Annals of Internal Medicine)?
Or Fauci's own words about Ct>35 only showing dead nucleotides?
Or how about "Bacterial Pneumonia Caused Most Deaths in 1918 Influenza Pandemic", co-written by Fauci?
Antibody-dependent enhancement? Pathogenic priming?
How about thalidomide crisis which only reared its head 2 years after the drug was released for use?
What about "Cancer risk associated with simian virus 40 contaminated polio vaccine"?
Bill Gates 2010 TED "Innovating to zero" with phrase like "Population is headed up to about 9 billion. If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10-15%."
This is nice:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japan-suicide-coronav...
This is better:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side...
This is the best:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-co...
You believe what you want to believe. Given historical precedent I do not believe in benevolent governments and sweet and fluffy pharma companies (biggest lobbyists in DC, bigger than MIC, big oil or banks).
I suggest you take an anger management course as well.
Peskarik - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
Am I anti-vaccination? No. I have been vaccinated.Am I covid-virus-denier? No, I am not.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste". I like that one from Churchill.
My favourite is Juncker's one: "We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."
Qasar - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
oh shut up already.umano - Saturday, December 19, 2020 - link
I am sorry dude for the terrible day that caused you to write that post, I really hope your days are better than that one. I can get in your argument and explain why is superficial, but It won't solve the issue. Your frustration comes from elsewhere, find it and your mood will improve.Willx1 - Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - link
What they fail to mention is that people with underlying conditions are more likely to die from COVID-19. So maybe heart disease, diabetes, and other conditions may have been a factor but COVID-19 more often then not was partially responsible for those deaths.Peskarik - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
They will tell us about another Unicorn product, or make another paper-launch?keyserr - Friday, December 18, 2020 - link
A unicorn made of paper.. Wait a minute. We're all replicants!!Get on discord if you wanna get a card, I just got a 3070 FE baby.
Deicidium369 - Monday, December 21, 2020 - link
Got a 3080 FE on launch day - no bot just luck. Got 2 Gigabyte 3090 OC from a well known retailer on launch day. Got 2 6900XTs from same retailer on launch day. Got 5900X and 5950X on launch day - all MSRP. Turns out that when you do significant business with some well known retailers they tend to make sure you get the hot products you want. Now the 3080 sits on a shelf along with 1 of the 6900XTs (1 returned for refund, since it is useless at 4k).. 3080 will go to my bro in law... 6900XT will hold down the shelf along with a VII and a 5700XT.Willx1 - Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - link
My shelves could use a 6900XT to help hold them down;)Dug - Saturday, December 26, 2020 - link
Dude.. you are so awesome and helpful. Keep it up!Maybe you can buy a pony one day too.
Gothmoth - Monday, December 21, 2020 - link
for month i am waiting that their cards are available here.they should STF up until they actually can deliver a product in numbers.
the MSRP from nividia is a sad joke. ....or even intentionally misleading....
Deicidium369 - Monday, December 21, 2020 - link
All 3 of my Ampere cards were MSRP - same with the 6900XTsaleny2k - Thursday, January 7, 2021 - link
Where are the reviews for Nvidia RTX 3080, RTX 3070, AMD RX 6800XT and AMD RX 6800, Ryan?