Nothing against the author of this keyboard, but other review sites say in their reviews that they've had the 6800 series around for weeks and they've been testing them, so the reviews were already ready by Nov 18th/19th. Where's Anandtech's review?
I don't see the point - there are loads of reviews already available, there are virtually no cards available to buy and no partner cards at all. AMD's reference design is pretty poor, so I wouldn't buy one anyway.
Many people reach a point in life where money really isn't an issue, and if something is better then you just pay and enjoy it. Arguably a slightly higher typing speed may make an economic case, but that will always be a tenuous excuse. Look how many people are spending many thousands a year on a new car when a used one would work just as well.
From Corsair definitely often worse, if you want quality then buy directly from Cherry or Ducky, ok you wont get the glitz but at least keyboards where they caps do not break off shortly after or before the warranty period!
I'd say is it worth the premium over other kb's. People don't buy new cars just because they are new. They usually buy it because it does something better than their old car. Sometimes it's simplly a better/lower payment lol.
I'm curious if this would be as bullet proof as those old IBM Model M. Indestructible due to them using optical switches. Could be worth it if the feel is great, and it's the last kb you'll ever need.
Well even if money is no issue quality is, and that is where 2 of 3 hardware items I bought from corsair in the recent past failed on me. A keyboard which had lousy keycaps, a headset which developed weird issues after the warranty period and some ram which fortunately still works. With the money Corsair asks for their keyboards you can expect quality, but not that you can expect quality after shelling out another bunch of dozends of bucks for their overpriced double shot caps which should have been integrated in the first place!
I refuse to spend $230 on any freaking keyboard. You can get a decent keyboard for less than forty bucks. I can't tell the difference. Let me enjoy my proletarian choices.
I would be fine spending this much on a keyboard if it was worth it. You know, reliable and robust for many many years, so that you dont even have to buy it as often as a new monitor, as it was not too long ago. But it isnt. Its as much a trash-bin product as the cheaper ones. They even claim their mechanical crap lasts longer than rubber domes, yet they dont. Paying that much for a product like this is just pure and utter stupidity. And not only for yourself.
The original Corsair Kxx keyboards had quality issues. All the LEDs died, rapidly, but the keys kept working. The ones I got since then have been fine. There has not been enough time to see if they will physically break down yet so I have no way to evaluate your claims.
But I have reached the point in life where I realized video gaming is really cheap. Boating, Flying, 4x4ing, pick your recreation of choice, nearly all vastly more expensive.
So $230 on something you will use everyday for work and play? Completely justifiable.
I know one thing for sure, I get more use out of my keyboard then I do my boat. Do you know what BOAT stands for? Bust Out Another Thousand. It really is that bad.
So a few hundred for a keyboard? For a certain type of buyer, completely reasonable.
They are too busy tweeting and not giving any context on what the tweet is about, instead just giving links to other threads that also need context. So they just post conversations that 99% don't have any clue what they are talking about.
This site needs to get back to it's roots, and produce quality like Anand did.
It's possible Anandtech doesn't have large enough of an audience for Nvidia or ATI to make the decision to spare a card that's in short supply for them to do a review with. The problem is that they weren't shipped a card to do a review on to begin with, it's not like one is sitting on their receiving dock with nobody opening it. Their management must have made the decision not to try and buy one on their own, since they need to review with free product samples to make money, not going out and buying their own stuff to review on top of paying their staff.
I have the cards. Just not the time. AMD and NVIDIA have been nothing but spectacular in making sure I have all the hardware I need (which ironically, is kind of part of the problem).
"It takes quite a bit of time for someone who is used to a typical mechanical or, worse, membrane keyboard to acclimate to the delicate OPX switches. However, once that happens, I find that the OPX switches are more comfortable and feel more responsive than any mechanical switch available today."
this makes it sound like a substantial wrist rest is a requirement. I doubt anyone who uses the keyboard as text input device, aka not a gamer, will cotton to *not* resting fingers on the Home Row, which is conventional with all other keyboards (esp. my revered IBM model M :) ). having to 'float' one's entire hand above the keys would lead to significant forearm strain in no time at all. or do I infer incorrectly? you don't mention whether resting on the Home Row, from first use, caused key actuation.
I've only used chicklet/scissors keyboards a few times, and not happily, for about that same reason.
This applies to gaming as well. As a MOBA player I want to have my fingers on QWE at all times, and it's not good if that may accidentally cause them to trigger. This was a problem I experienced switching from membrane to a much more sensitive mechanical keyboard, it added wrist strain I never experienced before since I could no longer rest any significant weight on the keys.
Though I'd imagine since the switches are optical, there should be no problem to configure the sensitivity in software.
RA handicap here...no issues with this what so ever. Your fingers "learn" the new resistance and how you can still lean on the key but not press it. For people first starting off on it, yeah you'll definitely hit a few keys.
The key actuation force almost entirely depends on the keyspring, and not whether the switch is optical or mechanical.
Probably the author is referring to the fact that optical switches likely have a different actuation *point* on the downstroke. And also probably a different feel, depending on the type of mechanical switch he is used to.
Virtually no mechanical keyboard out-of-the-box, including this one, will have springs so soft that they actuate the switch when fingers are simply rested on them.
That said: I have never experienced actuation on chiclet keyboards merely from resting my fingers, so your fingers may be particularly heavy. If you were otherwise interested in this keyboard, I'm virtually certain you could invest a ridiculous amount of time in replacing the springs with stronger ones.
+1 grant3. I think the OP has assumed (not unreasonably, I might add) that the acutation force correlates with travel disance and therefore the short travel distance in this keyboard correlate with a low acutation force and therefore poor typing experience (caps pressed on the lightest of touches). OP please correct me if I inferred incorrectly. But that's true: if you look at the per-key accutation for this keyboard it averages 44.1 cN. That's hardly different than Corsair's own K70 Mechanical keyboard with an averge per-key acutation force of 44.9cN (https://www.anandtech.com/show/10301/corsair-k70-r... so no: resting your fingers on the keys won't trigger an acutation. OPX switches are certainly innovative, and the price whilst difficult to chew is certainly justifiable for what is a new design. The question is what will Corsair do next? Release next iterations to the masses or go with a niche route like VR companies? I'd certainly hope for the former, but won't be suprised if the pricing remains obscene.
not even close to being true. my beloved IBM Model M is nearly as tough as a mechanical typewriter keyboard to press, and is much shorter than the bottoming necessary on your average rubber dome. so, no.
the total 'force', somehow measured, viz. pressure X distance may be so. those wafer thin keyboards with scissors type keys...
I actually agree FunBunny... you may have missed my correction on the next message (no edit/correct function as always in AT comments). Those who presume that acutation force correlates with travel disance would be correct if it wasn't for spring constant in Cherry MX keyboards (for the sake of simplicity you can think of it as a spring that modulate the pressure or force exerted on the keycap). The primary point of a mechanical keyboard (at least historically) was to be able to acutate the key WITHOUT buttoming out thereby allowing for increasing typing speed - therefore those short travel distances shouldn't be a suprise! In this respect your IBM Model M is seen as the mama of mechanical keyboards with its famous "buckling springs". Those things were loud though!
"In this respect your IBM Model M is seen as the mama of mechanical keyboards with its famous "buckling springs". Those things were loud though! "
and, oddly enough, when I dove into a schematic I discovered what blew my mind: the keyboard is just a rubber dome (sorta) implementation! the buckling spring actuation drives a lever arm into the dome. the keyset sits over a sheet of contacts. who woudda thunk it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring
I'd like this keyboard to become mainstream: https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/. They also do a keyboard that's basically a large display like a smartphone but somehow I don't think you can type blind on that (but never tried so who knows).
Although briefly mentioned in the review, I would like to point out in case anyone missed it that this keyboard comes with double-shot PBT keycaps, which is arguably more important than other stuff analysed in more detail by the reviewer.
I personally recommend the Leopold FC900R for half the price, classier looking and without the RGB sillyness, which is built like a tank and I love using it daily for 2+ years now (office work with a LOT of typing). I would love to see Anandtech reviewing less popular (but likely better) mechanical keyboards, such as Leopold, Ducky, IKBC, Vortex, etc.
I would love to try these switches, but the aesthetic of this atrocity is straight out of my worst RGB-lit bro-mares. And then there's that wrist rest. Just sell the switches and I'll take care of the rest.
Loved this keyboard so much that I bought a second one for Christmas for my SIL.
I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and normally need an ergonomic keyboard...no more.
The key travel is so fast I had to pace myself in games from leaning on the keys like I used to.
Will I ever go back to clacking mechanical after using these? NEVER
Sound wise they are very muted and not extremely loud like I anticipated. I work/game right next to my other half and she doesn't complain at all but hates Cherry Reds in the old keyboard.
When you spend so many time of your day typing in a keyboard (or using one), been writing, programming or gaming maybe 230 USD is not that much for a better experience. I my self use a tenkeyless brown switch keyboard as my daily driver; my keyboard wasn't cheap but is durable as a rock, it can be fixed easily (exchanging switches or keycaps) and the typing experience is great. It's almost a keyboard for a lifetime. You can decide if you prefer to spend 50 - 100 usd from now and then to buy a new keyboard or 230 for one that last an outlast more than a normal keyboard.
do you mean electrically or mechanically? the former shouldn't matter, and the latter isn't necessarily useful. my dasKeyboard has the usual facia covering the bottom of the keys, and it fills up with gunk in no time flat. blowing it out isn't very effective, since the gunk has to come out of the teeny, tiny spaces between the keys and the facia. the open design here is much easier to clean, like blowing leaves off a driveway.
I just bough the K70 on sale for 89 bucks and its basically the same build that his one but with mechanical Cherry Silver switches. Can't imagine paying 250 for a keyboard, the K70 usually goes for 150 but on sale its a bargain.
Only nitpicking but I don't get why there is a wheel and a separate volume knob, the wheel could have used that function as well. Everything else seems great.
Probably never, since the whole point of operating systems is to abstract out hardware so that applications don't need deal with it.
You're simply never going to get the industry to regress backwards decades, and force Every. Single. App. to include native support for the multitudes of human-interface devices in existence.
And if someone has the ability to install a keylogger on your computer, then you've still got some other security hole which no amount of encryption could possibly solve.
The keyboard style absolutely doesn't appeal to me at all and the price doesn't seem reasonable. A nice white LED backlight on a basic membrane board is more than enough for my needs, even when I'm playing games.
Polling rates are only correlated with input delay. I've seen reviews where the reviewer used a 1000fps camera and dismantled the keyboards to use a special switch to signal a key press and a 250hz keyboard was decimated most 1000hz keyboards, even from name brands.
What an ugly keyboard. Not to mention the macro keys at the left side, which I will never understand why they do that. I had that once and it was such a pain. Why dont they put them below the space bar instead, like other 100% game keypads do?
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Does Corsair still provide shitty keycaps with their Keyboards... The first and last Corsair I had had breaking keycaps after less than two years. The fix would have been an overpriced set of double shot keysets! I sent the keyboard back! Thank god I got a refund. As much as I love the cherry switches, but Corsair no thanks! Except for their ram every single piece of hardware I had from them broke down on my due to shitty manufacturing shortcuts.
I am a programmer. I program the 18 macro keys on the left of the keyboard to navigate errors, diffs, search and replace, etc. Yes 6 keys or less in a single line is worse than useless to me, it is an automatic no to the keyboard.
I hope Corsair keeps making a keyboard with 18 macro keys. The only other thing I wish for is the original Microsoft Natural split keyboard but in a mechanical version.
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velanapontinha - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I can't believe you're giving us reviews of freaking keyboards and still ignoring the GPU space...jordanclock - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Considering this article was not written by Ryan Smith, it is safe to assume the author has no hand in GPU reviews.poohbear - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Nothing against the author of this keyboard, but other review sites say in their reviews that they've had the 6800 series around for weeks and they've been testing them, so the reviews were already ready by Nov 18th/19th. Where's Anandtech's review?catavalon21 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Presumably behind the same 8-ball as reviews of NVIDIA's latest cards.Monty_Python - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
I don't see the point - there are loads of reviews already available, there are virtually no cards available to buy and no partner cards at all. AMD's reference design is pretty poor, so I wouldn't buy one anyway.YB1064 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
:)But, $230 for a keyboard??? GTFO...
BedfordTim - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Many people reach a point in life where money really isn't an issue, and if something is better then you just pay and enjoy it. Arguably a slightly higher typing speed may make an economic case, but that will always be a tenuous excuse.Look how many people are spending many thousands a year on a new car when a used one would work just as well.
Thayios - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I reached that point. The price didn't bother me at all considering I spent $150 on an ergonomic that failed within a year due to heavy usage.YB1064 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I highly doubt longevity is any better than their $50 offerings.werpu - Tuesday, December 1, 2020 - link
From Corsair definitely often worse, if you want quality then buy directly from Cherry or Ducky, ok you wont get the glitz but at least keyboards where they caps do not break off shortly after or before the warranty period!lilkwarrior - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Stuff like a Kinesis Advantage 2 cost way more. This price of this keyboard is more than fair.Showtime - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
I'd say is it worth the premium over other kb's. People don't buy new cars just because they are new. They usually buy it because it does something better than their old car. Sometimes it's simplly a better/lower payment lol.I'm curious if this would be as bullet proof as those old IBM Model M. Indestructible due to them using optical switches. Could be worth it if the feel is great, and it's the last kb you'll ever need.
werpu - Tuesday, December 1, 2020 - link
Well even if money is no issue quality is, and that is where 2 of 3 hardware items I bought from corsair in the recent past failed on me. A keyboard which had lousy keycaps, a headset which developed weird issues after the warranty period and some ram which fortunately still works. With the money Corsair asks for their keyboards you can expect quality, but not that you can expect quality after shelling out another bunch of dozends of bucks for their overpriced double shot caps which should have been integrated in the first place!Monty_Python - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
No worse than dropping $1500+ on a GPU.grant3 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
Is your problem with THIS keyboard costing $230, or do you simply refuse to spend that much for ANY keyboard?If the latter, then you are blessed to be satisfied with cheaper alternatives. Let the rest of us enjoy our niche keyboard purchases in peace.
YB1064 - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
I refuse to spend $230 on any freaking keyboard. You can get a decent keyboard for less than forty bucks. I can't tell the difference. Let me enjoy my proletarian choices.sonny73n - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
"Let the rest of us enjoy our niche keyboard..."No, I'm not one of you irresponsible imbecile.
Azethoth - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
No, you are an inconsequential prole. Trolling the comments with dumb nonsense, hoping to get a hit of adrenaline and recognition.Beaver M. - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
I would be fine spending this much on a keyboard if it was worth it. You know, reliable and robust for many many years, so that you dont even have to buy it as often as a new monitor, as it was not too long ago. But it isnt. Its as much a trash-bin product as the cheaper ones. They even claim their mechanical crap lasts longer than rubber domes, yet they dont.Paying that much for a product like this is just pure and utter stupidity. And not only for yourself.
Azethoth - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
The original Corsair Kxx keyboards had quality issues. All the LEDs died, rapidly, but the keys kept working. The ones I got since then have been fine. There has not been enough time to see if they will physically break down yet so I have no way to evaluate your claims.Leeea - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
It is out of my price range.But I have reached the point in life where I realized video gaming is really cheap. Boating, Flying, 4x4ing, pick your recreation of choice, nearly all vastly more expensive.
So $230 on something you will use everyday for work and play? Completely justifiable.
I know one thing for sure, I get more use out of my keyboard then I do my boat. Do you know what BOAT stands for? Bust Out Another Thousand. It really is that bad.
So a few hundred for a keyboard? For a certain type of buyer, completely reasonable.
artifex - Thursday, November 26, 2020 - link
I've heard people say that the best two days in your life as a boat owner are the day you buy your boat and the day you sell it.Cellar Door - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Is Anandtech done with GPU reviews? I'm curious as well as to why, nothing from the new generation has been covered beyond simple announcements.Dug - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
They are too busy tweeting and not giving any context on what the tweet is about, instead just giving links to other threads that also need context. So they just post conversations that 99% don't have any clue what they are talking about.This site needs to get back to it's roots, and produce quality like Anand did.
alphasquadron - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
It's 2020 bro. Twitter rep/fame is the life goal now man. Also Anand is gone. Get with the times old timer.dotes12 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
It's possible Anandtech doesn't have large enough of an audience for Nvidia or ATI to make the decision to spare a card that's in short supply for them to do a review with. The problem is that they weren't shipped a card to do a review on to begin with, it's not like one is sitting on their receiving dock with nobody opening it. Their management must have made the decision not to try and buy one on their own, since they need to review with free product samples to make money, not going out and buying their own stuff to review on top of paying their staff.Ryan Smith - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I have the cards. Just not the time. AMD and NVIDIA have been nothing but spectacular in making sure I have all the hardware I need (which ironically, is kind of part of the problem).Luminar - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I can email you my resume and you can hire me to do GPU reviews.velanapontinha - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
Hi, Ryan.long time fan and reader, here.
I'm sorry, but after 2 months over the official launch, not having enough time does not sound reasonable.
catavalon21 - Sunday, January 23, 2022 - link
I can only imagine how you feel more than a year later and nothing has changed.Kurosaki - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
+1!umano - Sunday, November 22, 2020 - link
There is no point, we can't buy them :(FunBunny2 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
"It takes quite a bit of time for someone who is used to a typical mechanical or, worse, membrane keyboard to acclimate to the delicate OPX switches. However, once that happens, I find that the OPX switches are more comfortable and feel more responsive than any mechanical switch available today."this makes it sound like a substantial wrist rest is a requirement. I doubt anyone who uses the keyboard as text input device, aka not a gamer, will cotton to *not* resting fingers on the Home Row, which is conventional with all other keyboards (esp. my revered IBM model M :) ). having to 'float' one's entire hand above the keys would lead to significant forearm strain in no time at all. or do I infer incorrectly? you don't mention whether resting on the Home Row, from first use, caused key actuation.
I've only used chicklet/scissors keyboards a few times, and not happily, for about that same reason.
emilemil1 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
This applies to gaming as well. As a MOBA player I want to have my fingers on QWE at all times, and it's not good if that may accidentally cause them to trigger. This was a problem I experienced switching from membrane to a much more sensitive mechanical keyboard, it added wrist strain I never experienced before since I could no longer rest any significant weight on the keys.Though I'd imagine since the switches are optical, there should be no problem to configure the sensitivity in software.
grant3 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
optical switches are still binary (i.e., "on" or "off"), so there is no software sensitivity configuration available.Beaver M. - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
Not the ones on the Wooting.Thayios - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
RA handicap here...no issues with this what so ever. Your fingers "learn" the new resistance and how you can still lean on the key but not press it. For people first starting off on it, yeah you'll definitely hit a few keys.grant3 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
The key actuation force almost entirely depends on the keyspring, and not whether the switch is optical or mechanical.Probably the author is referring to the fact that optical switches likely have a different actuation *point* on the downstroke. And also probably a different feel, depending on the type of mechanical switch he is used to.
Virtually no mechanical keyboard out-of-the-box, including this one, will have springs so soft that they actuate the switch when fingers are simply rested on them.
That said: I have never experienced actuation on chiclet keyboards merely from resting my fingers, so your fingers may be particularly heavy. If you were otherwise interested in this keyboard, I'm virtually certain you could invest a ridiculous amount of time in replacing the springs with stronger ones.
K_Space - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
+1 grant3.I think the OP has assumed (not unreasonably, I might add) that the acutation force correlates with travel disance and therefore the short travel distance in this keyboard correlate with a low acutation force and therefore poor typing experience (caps pressed on the lightest of touches). OP please correct me if I inferred incorrectly.
But that's true: if you look at the per-key accutation for this keyboard it averages 44.1 cN. That's hardly different than Corsair's own K70 Mechanical keyboard with an averge per-key acutation force of 44.9cN (https://www.anandtech.com/show/10301/corsair-k70-r... so no: resting your fingers on the keys won't trigger an acutation.
OPX switches are certainly innovative, and the price whilst difficult to chew is certainly justifiable for what is a new design. The question is what will Corsair do next? Release next iterations to the masses or go with a niche route like VR companies? I'd certainly hope for the former, but won't be suprised if the pricing remains obscene.
K_Space - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
Sorry massive correction: 2nd paragraph should read: But that's NOT* true.FunBunny2 - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
"acutation force correlates with travel disance"not even close to being true. my beloved IBM Model M is nearly as tough as a mechanical typewriter keyboard to press, and is much shorter than the bottoming necessary on your average rubber dome. so, no.
the total 'force', somehow measured, viz. pressure X distance may be so. those wafer thin keyboards with scissors type keys...
K_Space - Tuesday, November 24, 2020 - link
I actually agree FunBunny... you may have missed my correction on the next message (no edit/correct function as always in AT comments). Those who presume that acutation force correlates with travel disance would be correct if it wasn't for spring constant in Cherry MX keyboards (for the sake of simplicity you can think of it as a spring that modulate the pressure or force exerted on the keycap).The primary point of a mechanical keyboard (at least historically) was to be able to acutate the key WITHOUT buttoming out thereby allowing for increasing typing speed - therefore those short travel distances shouldn't be a suprise! In this respect your IBM Model M is seen as the mama of mechanical keyboards with its famous "buckling springs". Those things were loud though!
FunBunny2 - Wednesday, November 25, 2020 - link
"In this respect your IBM Model M is seen as the mama of mechanical keyboards with its famous "buckling springs". Those things were loud though! "and, oddly enough, when I dove into a schematic I discovered what blew my mind: the keyboard is just a rubber dome (sorta) implementation! the buckling spring actuation drives a lever arm into the dome. the keyset sits over a sheet of contacts. who woudda thunk it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring
charlesg - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I don't know how anyone can use a non ergo keyboard for an extended period of time.Ryan1981 - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I'd like this keyboard to become mainstream: https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/. They also do a keyboard that's basically a large display like a smartphone but somehow I don't think you can type blind on that (but never tried so who knows).phila - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
https://mountain.gg/keyboards/everest-max/ Mountain.GG keyboard has a few keys that are configurable like this. I find it pretty usefulJimios - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Although briefly mentioned in the review, I would like to point out in case anyone missed it that this keyboard comes with double-shot PBT keycaps, which is arguably more important than other stuff analysed in more detail by the reviewer.Jimios - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I personally recommend the Leopold FC900R for half the price, classier looking and without the RGB sillyness, which is built like a tank and I love using it daily for 2+ years now (office work with a LOT of typing).I would love to see Anandtech reviewing less popular (but likely better) mechanical keyboards, such as Leopold, Ducky, IKBC, Vortex, etc.
sonny73n - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
Completely agree! I've been using a Ducky since 2011 and it's still good as new. I love it and I think it'll last forever.Arbie - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
From a quick search, the Leopold keyboards are $400 on Newegg; NA on Amazon.Jimios - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=p...https://candykeys.com/category:mechanical-keyboard...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/...
They're a little harder to find than the mainstream stuff, but worth it IMO.
mrvco - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I would love to try these switches, but the aesthetic of this atrocity is straight out of my worst RGB-lit bro-mares. And then there's that wrist rest. Just sell the switches and I'll take care of the rest.Thayios - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Loved this keyboard so much that I bought a second one for Christmas for my SIL.I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and normally need an ergonomic keyboard...no more.
The key travel is so fast I had to pace myself in games from leaning on the keys like I used to.
Will I ever go back to clacking mechanical after using these? NEVER
Sound wise they are very muted and not extremely loud like I anticipated. I work/game right next to my other half and she doesn't complain at all but hates Cherry Reds in the old keyboard.
balamacab - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
When you spend so many time of your day typing in a keyboard (or using one), been writing, programming or gaming maybe 230 USD is not that much for a better experience.I my self use a tenkeyless brown switch keyboard as my daily driver; my keyboard wasn't cheap but is durable as a rock, it can be fixed easily (exchanging switches or keycaps) and the typing experience is great. It's almost a keyboard for a lifetime.
You can decide if you prefer to spend 50 - 100 usd from now and then to buy a new keyboard or 230 for one that last an outlast more than a normal keyboard.
sonny73n - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
I'm sure this overpriced keyboard will break long before my 9 years old Ducky will.Machinus - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
The switch base is completely unshielded on all sides. Ignoring decades of mechanical design best practices isn't going to lead to a lot of sales.FunBunny2 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
do you mean electrically or mechanically? the former shouldn't matter, and the latter isn't necessarily useful. my dasKeyboard has the usual facia covering the bottom of the keys, and it fills up with gunk in no time flat. blowing it out isn't very effective, since the gunk has to come out of the teeny, tiny spaces between the keys and the facia. the open design here is much easier to clean, like blowing leaves off a driveway.Dug - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Another non ergonomic keyboard that requires a wrist rest, making this a giant monstrosity for gamerz!!I wish companies would stop with the unnecessary tall height keycaps and also make the base thinner so we don't need the unnecessary wrist rest.
Dug - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
And get rid of the numpad!! Another ergonomic nightmare when you have to put your mouse further right than it needs to be.drexnx - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
uh, no, don't do this. Anyone that has to type a lot of numbers in will be pissed. Tenkeys are so much better for number entry than the top row...jesuscat - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
just get a usb numpad if you need it?then you can have it like moved around and out of the way if you don't need it
Pytheus - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
I just bough the K70 on sale for 89 bucks and its basically the same build that his one but with mechanical Cherry Silver switches. Can't imagine paying 250 for a keyboard, the K70 usually goes for 150 but on sale its a bargain.fruffo - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
Only nitpicking but I don't get why there is a wheel and a separate volume knob, the wheel could have used that function as well. Everything else seems great.stancilmor - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
When do we get a keyboard that creates a secure connection to the application to avoid key logging and other hacks?This thing has an Arm processor, surely some of that power can be used for encryption instead of controlling individual LED illumination.
Revv233 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
Now that's a great idea.grant3 - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
Probably never, since the whole point of operating systems is to abstract out hardware so that applications don't need deal with it.You're simply never going to get the industry to regress backwards decades, and force Every. Single. App. to include native support for the multitudes of human-interface devices in existence.
And if someone has the ability to install a keylogger on your computer, then you've still got some other security hole which no amount of encryption could possibly solve.
ArmedandDangerous - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
"compliant with the standard ANSI layout, something they have not done for any of their mechanical keyboards in the past"I'm looking at my old K90 mechanical keyboard from Corsair and it is definitely ANSI.
ArmedandDangerous - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
"The major design difference lies at the top right corner of the keyboard, in the form of a second metallic wheel"Top left you mean?
Lord of the Bored - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
The other right.Tomatotech - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
The other left.docbones - Thursday, November 19, 2020 - link
but is it better then a Logitech k740? How noisy is this keyboard, and does it have a low profile option?PeachNCream - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
The keyboard style absolutely doesn't appeal to me at all and the price doesn't seem reasonable. A nice white LED backlight on a basic membrane board is more than enough for my needs, even when I'm playing games.Beaver M. - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
We really need some good rubber dome ones again.bcronce - Friday, November 20, 2020 - link
Polling rates are only correlated with input delay. I've seen reviews where the reviewer used a 1000fps camera and dismantled the keyboards to use a special switch to signal a key press and a 250hz keyboard was decimated most 1000hz keyboards, even from name brands.Jens R. - Saturday, November 21, 2020 - link
>was not designed to ever be disassembled by an end userI was already not going to buy this, but now I will extra not buy it.
tidywickham - Sunday, November 22, 2020 - link
I NEED this keyboard. Got to try that wheel.DiHydro - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
"The major design difference lies at the top right corner of the keyboard" I think you mean top left?Beaver M. - Monday, November 23, 2020 - link
What an ugly keyboard. Not to mention the macro keys at the left side, which I will never understand why they do that. I had that once and it was such a pain.Why dont they put them below the space bar instead, like other 100% game keypads do?
Alex2132 - Thursday, November 26, 2020 - link
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I have the K70, smaller, older version of this, and it really is a masterpiece.werpu - Tuesday, December 1, 2020 - link
Does Corsair still provide shitty keycaps with their Keyboards... The first and last Corsair I had had breaking keycaps after less than two years. The fix would have been an overpriced set of double shot keysets!I sent the keyboard back! Thank god I got a refund. As much as I love the cherry switches, but Corsair no thanks!
Except for their ram every single piece of hardware I had from them broke down on my due to shitty manufacturing shortcuts.
Azethoth - Monday, December 14, 2020 - link
I am a programmer. I program the 18 macro keys on the left of the keyboard to navigate errors, diffs, search and replace, etc. Yes 6 keys or less in a single line is worse than useless to me, it is an automatic no to the keyboard.I hope Corsair keeps making a keyboard with 18 macro keys. The only other thing I wish for is the original Microsoft Natural split keyboard but in a mechanical version.