Doesn't mean jack shit when their basic endurance falls short by almost all of the SSD makers except their top MLC, 860 Pro lineup. Samsung Drive on the PRO = MLC, the moment they drop that it's irrelevant to pay Samsung Tax.
They shot themselves in the foot with the TLC b.s on their top end line. Corsair, XPG, WD, Micron, Sabrent all of them use TLC and get higher TBW for their drives.
I mean, it kind of means everything. If I told you that you could eat 5.5 lbs (2.5 kg) of pizza for $10 or 10 lbs (4.5 kg) for $30, which would you choose? especially knowing that realistically you will only eat half of the cheaper option.
Note that a single TB written does not equal a TB of drive writes. I have written 100TB to my 1TB Samsung EVO NVME drive, but thanks to wear leveling the life is still 96%.
I'm at a whole 30 TBW of writes in 3.3 years of desktop usage on a 960 EVO, as a point of comparison in what I consider 'typical desktop usage'... 600 TB vs. 1000 vs. 2000...all just 'feel good' numbers as the 5 year warranty will be gone after only about 50 TB anyway.... (Having a hypothetical 500 vs. 1000 TB of 'good for at least' writes remaining seems trivial...)
My boot SSD only has 40 in about the same. It says I only do 8.x TBW per year on that one; but the OS doesn't change much and run without a swap file, so it isn't getting hammered at all. But isn't used like the other and 1/2 size, so can't do much with it anyway for my usage patterns. Working with many things with massive GB's these days, just makes that drive useless for anything other than a boot disk really. There are many things though, that work from data on one drive, modify it and output it to another. Almost anything content creation related usually is done like this, (scratch drives etc). I'm sure downloaders hit SSD's like that too and probably idiots watching netflix etc stream all day to their only HD, which is a small SSD. Why do people watch TV on PC? Space constrained people I get (mobile home? small apt), but everyone else? No big TV?
I ran a couple(read: 24) 512 gb samsung 960 evo's (the cheapest consumer SSD samsung had) in a raid array for about 5 years. That raid array had several exchange mailbox databases (4 TBs of email databases). Reading and writing constantly, no TRIM support in the raid controllers so pretty much worst case scenario for hte drives. Across all the drives we had maybe 4 dead cells (4 dead recovered cells mind you, no data loss).
Some dude running a PC under his TV isn't going to come near the lifetime of their drive.
I can write over 10TB in a day. I regularly do 2TB a day via various things. I only have a 6MB/s connection (that's ~60Mbit), but it can go all day 24/7 unlimited (biz line) and do all that over a vpn too. ;) If I could just get MSFT/Google to stop telling me I'm not me, I'd be golden...LOL They hate VPN's. You are ignorant if you think people can't hit these levels, and in many cases easily. I do direct portions of that away from the SSD just because I gain nothing from it at the time (conserve those writes when I can), but much goes there first for the speed etc. I'll be adding another 1TB drive, and will then be doing that type of crap to two of them (getting data to one, then changing it in some way shape/form and sending it to the other).
So for some of us, that number actual means something.
Th data sheet accessible off the link says that the 1TB version is rated for 740TBW and the 2TB for 1480TB. It also says "Power Consumption: 0.33W Active (Typical), 0.14W Slumber (Typical) (*measured by power meter)" though that sounds overly optimistic to me.
Kinda curious: Are internal PCIe lanes a concern for laptop design? That is, would there be a point to use PCIe4 x2 for a SSD (and possibly PCIe4 x4 for a dedicated GPU) to save board space while still offering "great enough" performance?
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Makaveli - Friday, September 18, 2020 - link
TBW 1480 much better than the 600 of the Samsung 980 Pro drive.vladx - Friday, September 18, 2020 - link
Like you'd get to write even 100TB, anyways Samsung drives are known to surpass official endurance numbers by a lot.Quantumz0d - Friday, September 18, 2020 - link
Doesn't mean jack shit when their basic endurance falls short by almost all of the SSD makers except their top MLC, 860 Pro lineup. Samsung Drive on the PRO = MLC, the moment they drop that it's irrelevant to pay Samsung Tax.They shot themselves in the foot with the TLC b.s on their top end line. Corsair, XPG, WD, Micron, Sabrent all of them use TLC and get higher TBW for their drives.
eek2121 - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
I mean, it kind of means everything. If I told you that you could eat 5.5 lbs (2.5 kg) of pizza for $10 or 10 lbs (4.5 kg) for $30, which would you choose? especially knowing that realistically you will only eat half of the cheaper option.Note that a single TB written does not equal a TB of drive writes. I have written 100TB to my 1TB Samsung EVO NVME drive, but thanks to wear leveling the life is still 96%.
MDD1963 - Monday, September 21, 2020 - link
I'm at a whole 30 TBW of writes in 3.3 years of desktop usage on a 960 EVO, as a point of comparison in what I consider 'typical desktop usage'... 600 TB vs. 1000 vs. 2000...all just 'feel good' numbers as the 5 year warranty will be gone after only about 50 TB anyway.... (Having a hypothetical 500 vs. 1000 TB of 'good for at least' writes remaining seems trivial...)TheJian - Saturday, September 26, 2020 - link
My boot SSD only has 40 in about the same. It says I only do 8.x TBW per year on that one; but the OS doesn't change much and run without a swap file, so it isn't getting hammered at all. But isn't used like the other and 1/2 size, so can't do much with it anyway for my usage patterns. Working with many things with massive GB's these days, just makes that drive useless for anything other than a boot disk really. There are many things though, that work from data on one drive, modify it and output it to another. Almost anything content creation related usually is done like this, (scratch drives etc). I'm sure downloaders hit SSD's like that too and probably idiots watching netflix etc stream all day to their only HD, which is a small SSD. Why do people watch TV on PC? Space constrained people I get (mobile home? small apt), but everyone else? No big TV?MeateaW - Sunday, November 8, 2020 - link
I ran a couple(read: 24) 512 gb samsung 960 evo's (the cheapest consumer SSD samsung had) in a raid array for about 5 years. That raid array had several exchange mailbox databases (4 TBs of email databases). Reading and writing constantly, no TRIM support in the raid controllers so pretty much worst case scenario for hte drives. Across all the drives we had maybe 4 dead cells (4 dead recovered cells mind you, no data loss).Some dude running a PC under his TV isn't going to come near the lifetime of their drive.
TheJian - Saturday, September 26, 2020 - link
I can write over 10TB in a day. I regularly do 2TB a day via various things. I only have a 6MB/s connection (that's ~60Mbit), but it can go all day 24/7 unlimited (biz line) and do all that over a vpn too. ;) If I could just get MSFT/Google to stop telling me I'm not me, I'd be golden...LOL They hate VPN's. You are ignorant if you think people can't hit these levels, and in many cases easily. I do direct portions of that away from the SSD just because I gain nothing from it at the time (conserve those writes when I can), but much goes there first for the speed etc. I'll be adding another 1TB drive, and will then be doing that type of crap to two of them (getting data to one, then changing it in some way shape/form and sending it to the other).So for some of us, that number actual means something.
TrevorH - Friday, September 18, 2020 - link
Th data sheet accessible off the link says that the 1TB version is rated for 740TBW and the 2TB for 1480TB. It also says "Power Consumption: 0.33W Active (Typical), 0.14W Slumber (Typical) (*measured by power meter)" though that sounds overly optimistic to me.MenhirMike - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
Kinda curious: Are internal PCIe lanes a concern for laptop design? That is, would there be a point to use PCIe4 x2 for a SSD (and possibly PCIe4 x4 for a dedicated GPU) to save board space while still offering "great enough" performance?Jorgp2 - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
There are no PCI-E 4 laptop GPUs.And the only laptop CPU with PCI-E 4 only has 4 so far.
senttoschool - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
Still slower than PS5 drive.Makaveli - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
This is a budget drive.Both the E18 controller based drives and Samsung new controller a offer faster speeds than on the PS5.
Tomatotech - Sunday, September 20, 2020 - link
I didn’t know the PS5 comes in laptop format.(This is a polite way of saying shut up.)
GNUminex_l_cowsay - Monday, September 21, 2020 - link
If an SSD needs a heat spreader is it really appropriate for a laptop?