I agree, this is cute AF compared to the boxy NUCs. Kind of reminds me of a Gigabyte BRIX. Except actually powerful...the last BRIX I had was an i3-4030U and while the GPU served its purpose, it was a performance joke when it came to decompressing torrent downloads.
yeah, nuc are embarked even by cheap laptops when it comes to performance. They were newer a serious product, just a gap filler. They competed with rassbery pi as a something that can run most basic things, with just the gain of beeing "usable" as desktop in case of emergency.
The old gen8 HP microserver could be fitted with a i3 3220, which did support ecc ram. Not noted on the datasheet for the 3220 , so many bought more expensive xeons +such.
I thought all Celeron/Pentium/i3's up through Skylake were published to support ECC? They put a lot of i3's in servers, especially ML110's where people often just needed a file server to run Quickbooks or a basic domain controller. Really the only time an i3 wouldn't cut it for SMB was when you got into Hyper-V territory IMHO.
Just upgrades two with 25 euros e3-1265L 's. In most cases even the celeron's where overkill. Great concept that g8. The g10 not so much. Bring back ilo please HP.
I wouldn't trust any of these heat traps with anything critical as needing ecc ram. Spend the money where it's necessary instead of seeking a consumer device to handle error correction that happens so rarely, that you'll probably see fans, power supply, etc. fail before errors popping up. Especially with the limited hard drive space you'll have.
A noise level review of these units would be really nice. If they are capable of staying fairly quiet under medium load they could very well be on my christmas wish list :-) Some noise @ full load I can live with. But noisy fans at medium “average” load disqualifies way to many small and very attractive units.
Zen 3 APUs are probably a year away or so, the desktop Zen 2 APUs haven't even properly been released yet. AMD has had the APUs about a generation behind.since the initial zen launch.
I have an Intel version of this from ASRock with Atom processors, about 2 years old now. Unfortunately it's not held up well. The built-in WiFi conked out first, then the analog sound output, then the hardwired Ethernet. I'm limping by with USB WiFi dongle and sound out the HDMI port which also cuts out every few days requiring a reboot. :-(
I have a use for something like this, but the price will likely exceed a mini-ITX build and the extra size isn't critical. I don't want a full or mid tower, but a mini-ITX would be fine. If the price is right, one of these would be perfect. Even a slight premium. But if priced well above an alternative, nope.
Just like the ASUS ones referenced here, there is no version with the 4600u...6C/12T would be a good strong system at a much better price than the 8/16 ones.
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twotwotwo - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
On the list of gadgets that make me keep repeating to myself "I don't need a new computer right now." So tiny and cute!deil - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
that is a lot of horsepower inside a tiny box. I really hope they will pick up high volume.Samus - Thursday, September 10, 2020 - link
I agree, this is cute AF compared to the boxy NUCs. Kind of reminds me of a Gigabyte BRIX. Except actually powerful...the last BRIX I had was an i3-4030U and while the GPU served its purpose, it was a performance joke when it came to decompressing torrent downloads.deil - Thursday, September 10, 2020 - link
yeah, nuc are embarked even by cheap laptops when it comes to performance. They were newer a serious product, just a gap filler. They competed with rassbery pi as a something that can run most basic things, with just the gain of beeing "usable" as desktop in case of emergency.LiKenun - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
Curious if these would support ECC RAM… still looking for a tiny NUC-like system with ECC support.dromoxen - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
The old gen8 HP microserver could be fitted with a i3 3220, which did support ecc ram. Not noted on the datasheet for the 3220 , so many bought more expensive xeons +such.Samus - Thursday, September 10, 2020 - link
I thought all Celeron/Pentium/i3's up through Skylake were published to support ECC? They put a lot of i3's in servers, especially ML110's where people often just needed a file server to run Quickbooks or a basic domain controller. Really the only time an i3 wouldn't cut it for SMB was when you got into Hyper-V territory IMHO.Foeketijn - Saturday, September 12, 2020 - link
Just upgrades two with 25 euros e3-1265L 's. In most cases even the celeron's where overkill. Great concept that g8. The g10 not so much. Bring back ilo please HP.Dug - Thursday, September 10, 2020 - link
I wouldn't trust any of these heat traps with anything critical as needing ecc ram. Spend the money where it's necessary instead of seeking a consumer device to handle error correction that happens so rarely, that you'll probably see fans, power supply, etc. fail before errors popping up. Especially with the limited hard drive space you'll have.Beany2013 - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
I really like that. I expect it'll be a bit rich for me, but I like it.Der Keyser - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
A noise level review of these units would be really nice. If they are capable of staying fairly quiet under medium load they could very well be on my christmas wish list :-)Some noise @ full load I can live with. But noisy fans at medium “average” load disqualifies way to many small and very attractive units.
heffeque - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
If configuring the TDP is an option (which would be a wonderful idea), setting it to 10W should probably lead to virtually fanless operation.Lezmaka - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
So Wi-Fi 6 and 2.5GbE but not DisplayPort 1.4?ingwe - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
I noticed the lack of DP 1.4 as well. A bit disappointing.snakyjake - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
I assume this is Zen 2 architecture....Isn't the Zen 3 architecture not too far away...so why launch a Zen 2 product?ArcadeEngineer - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
Zen 3 APUs are probably a year away or so, the desktop Zen 2 APUs haven't even properly been released yet. AMD has had the APUs about a generation behind.since the initial zen launch.snakyjake - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
I need something like this (or Intel NUC) for HTPC (YouTube, Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, ripped movies, HEVC, etc). Not sure what to get.brucethemoose - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
I mean, an Android box can do all that for a fraction of the cost?Ideally, you'd want something with AV1 hardware decoding. I think thats just Tiger Lake, the recently announced Mediatek SoCs, and Ampere atm.
heffeque - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
Jasper Lake should also have AV1 HW decoding.Alistair - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
Nice! Been waiting for this!brucethemoose - Tuesday, September 8, 2020 - link
Adorable! I wish the miniaturization didn't come with a price premium, as they would be great workstation boxes.phatboye - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
Take my money.... wait how much does this cost? I hope it'll cost less than Intel's NUCs!bobsmith1492 - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
I have an Intel version of this from ASRock with Atom processors, about 2 years old now. Unfortunately it's not held up well. The built-in WiFi conked out first, then the analog sound output, then the hardwired Ethernet. I'm limping by with USB WiFi dongle and sound out the HDMI port which also cuts out every few days requiring a reboot. :-(PeachNCream - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
Install Windows ME and you'll have to reboot every couple of hours and never have to worry about the HDMI problem.PeachNCream - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
"...the performance of the Embedded R-Series made them a better fit for embedded systems..."Oh really?
rrinker - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
I have a use for something like this, but the price will likely exceed a mini-ITX build and the extra size isn't critical. I don't want a full or mid tower, but a mini-ITX would be fine. If the price is right, one of these would be perfect. Even a slight premium. But if priced well above an alternative, nope.jrs77 - Wednesday, September 9, 2020 - link
Perfect HTPC/Office PC, if they aren't as ridiculously priced as the intel NUCs.HideOut - Saturday, September 19, 2020 - link
Just like the ASUS ones referenced here, there is no version with the 4600u...6C/12T would be a good strong system at a much better price than the 8/16 ones.