That's actually a good idea. They can package a pump on the hoses that will then dampen vibrations and then people will feel as though the cooler is higher quality because the pump isn't transferring those vibrations to the chassis via metal to metal contacts. They can get away with going cheaper on the pump as well since it does not have to fit within the dimensions of a CPU socket. Interesting.
Immediately raised an eyebrow when I saw that as well. Huh. I have no idea if it will work better or worse than the pump being in the block, on the block, or in the radiator, but I am certainly interested to see how it fares.
There are so many advantages to removing the pump from the block, frankly I'm surprised they are able to make such a radical design change and still keep these things reasonably priced.
What's the radiator made out of? Their previous AIO cooler had a copper radiator instead of aluminum, which should have reduced the risk of corrosion. It's a shame that they discontinued it, and that so few (if any) companies make an AIO with a copper radiator.
There's no risk to corrosion of aluminum radiators in a closed loop system. The fluid is treated with an anti-corrosion agent and a friction modifier to act as a lubricant and improve heat transfer in virtually all closed loop coolers that include any sort of warranty, because just putting water in them would cause rapid failure to the ceramic bearings in the pump let alone the corrosion concern.
All AiO coolers perform about the same with the same fans and size, Except for the few with copper Radiators. They are just way better at dispersing heat and that is the limiting factor apparently. Can't believe the copper ones, even if they are slightly more expensive are not sold in 90% of the cases. In a closed loop, corrosion is not really happening. You need oxygen input to corrode.
I wish Anandtech wouldn't propagate the misleading AIO naming. An 80mm AIO has an 80mm fan. A 120mm has a 120mm fan. But a 360 has three 120mm fans, which have a *third* of the cooling surface that a real 360mm fan/heat exchanger would have. At least mention this?
Yep, it's been the standard for well over a decade, as long as radiators-built-for-the-PC-WC-market has been a thing (prior to that, it was mostly repurposed car radiators). The assumption is that a radiator will be a single row of fans, and that any that are not (e.g. a 2x2 arrangement) will be specified as such due to their rarity.
Still got a LONG way to go to be as quiet as the Zalman Reserator 1 v2. This unfortunately discontinued cooler was completely silent apart from a very quiet pump - no fans needed.
I used to have a self made cooler using an old central heating radiator. To get rid of all that Socket A energy. The Zalman Reserator was my inspiration. That's from a time coolers where interesting.
I have an alphacool 360 AIO without leds rbg etc and it was cheap and performs great. I'm not sure if this is able to beat their performance, but the pricing is right. Looking forward to a proper review (i.e. compare coolers at target noise levels not at voltage points).
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PeachNCream - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
That's actually a good idea. They can package a pump on the hoses that will then dampen vibrations and then people will feel as though the cooler is higher quality because the pump isn't transferring those vibrations to the chassis via metal to metal contacts. They can get away with going cheaper on the pump as well since it does not have to fit within the dimensions of a CPU socket. Interesting.Flunk - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
It also gets you away from being sued by Asetek.Cygni - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
Immediately raised an eyebrow when I saw that as well. Huh. I have no idea if it will work better or worse than the pump being in the block, on the block, or in the radiator, but I am certainly interested to see how it fares.Samus - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
There are so many advantages to removing the pump from the block, frankly I'm surprised they are able to make such a radical design change and still keep these things reasonably priced.frbeckenbauer - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
the prices actually seem very reasonableballsystemlord - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
We'll have to wait for a review to see how well the decoupled pump works.Mikewind Dale - Thursday, September 3, 2020 - link
What's the radiator made out of? Their previous AIO cooler had a copper radiator instead of aluminum, which should have reduced the risk of corrosion. It's a shame that they discontinued it, and that so few (if any) companies make an AIO with a copper radiator.So what about this radiator? Copper or aluminum?
Samus - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
There's no risk to corrosion of aluminum radiators in a closed loop system. The fluid is treated with an anti-corrosion agent and a friction modifier to act as a lubricant and improve heat transfer in virtually all closed loop coolers that include any sort of warranty, because just putting water in them would cause rapid failure to the ceramic bearings in the pump let alone the corrosion concern.meacupla - Monday, September 7, 2020 - link
Yeah, most CLCs with mixed metals do just fine... except enermax's liqtech CLCFoeketijn - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
All AiO coolers perform about the same with the same fans and size, Except for the few with copper Radiators. They are just way better at dispersing heat and that is the limiting factor apparently.Can't believe the copper ones, even if they are slightly more expensive are not sold in 90% of the cases.
In a closed loop, corrosion is not really happening. You need oxygen input to corrode.
Gigaplex - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
There's still some air in a CLC, and even if it shipped completely airless, over time it'll capture some air due to permeation.Sivar - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
I wish Anandtech wouldn't propagate the misleading AIO naming.An 80mm AIO has an 80mm fan. A 120mm has a 120mm fan. But a 360 has three 120mm fans, which have a *third* of the cooling surface that a real 360mm fan/heat exchanger would have.
At least mention this?
nevcairiel - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
This naming with water cooling radiators is pretty much industry standard now and anyone talking about PC cooling will understand them.They are simply measuring length, which is consistent across all AIOs, its not like there is a jump anywhere where the meaning changes.
edzieba - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
Yep, it's been the standard for well over a decade, as long as radiators-built-for-the-PC-WC-market has been a thing (prior to that, it was mostly repurposed car radiators). The assumption is that a radiator will be a single row of fans, and that any that are not (e.g. a 2x2 arrangement) will be specified as such due to their rarity.Foeketijn - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
And I would like a product that is made in China, but put together somewhere else to say made in China.shabby - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
It's not 360mm².Greenlobster - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
Dude it's been known that 360 aio is 120fans x3... It's advertised everywhere like this. Unless you're not from the tech community.Gigaplex - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
The number refers to the length, it's not a guarantee that it's a square shape. If you want a "real" 360, you need to define it as 360x360.firewrath9 - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
lol, good shitpost!Duncan Macdonald - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
Still got a LONG way to go to be as quiet as the Zalman Reserator 1 v2. This unfortunately discontinued cooler was completely silent apart from a very quiet pump - no fans needed.Foeketijn - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
I used to have a self made cooler using an old central heating radiator. To get rid of all that Socket A energy. The Zalman Reserator was my inspiration. That's from a time coolers where interesting.vanish1 - Friday, September 4, 2020 - link
Missing a headphone jack. Pass.Gigaplex - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
Why would you want a headphone jack on a CPU cooler?firewrath9 - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
its a joke lolMrVibrato - Sunday, September 6, 2020 - link
Why would you not want a headphone jack on a CPU cooler? It's cool, man!Retycint - Monday, September 7, 2020 - link
It's called being courageousTelstarTOS - Saturday, September 5, 2020 - link
I have an alphacool 360 AIO without leds rbg etc and it was cheap and performs great. I'm not sure if this is able to beat their performance, but the pricing is right. Looking forward to a proper review (i.e. compare coolers at target noise levels not at voltage points).oRAirwolf - Monday, September 14, 2020 - link
I wish more manufacturers offered 420mm AIOs. I have the alphacool eisbaer 420 and I like it, but it's pretty much the only game in town.