Google did the same thing with YouTube. Microsoft did the same thing with Hotmail. All of these acquisitions by data-farming, privacy-invading, corporations of smaller fish companies result in equally revolting walks down the same path to the festering pool of malfeasance in which customers are expected to gratefully bathe themselves. It's just some companies (Google and Facebook in particular) are much more revolting than others due to how they depend on the exploitation of their users to survive.
It's kind of surprising to me! I thought Facebook was doing ok? How desperate are they that they have to tie VR headsets, of all things, to Facebook logins? How bad are things over there, right now?
They're infamous for falsifying ad numbers (they get caught and have to correct themselves virtually every year remember autoplay videos fiasco?), I wonder if things have gotten so much worse lately? Are twitter and reddit so much more popular now or what?
Seems like a conflict of interest since both are owned by same people and requiring a FB account just to use the hardware you purchased seems a bit messed up. Also why would I want anyone on FB to know what VR games I am playing? If I want them to know I will post that information on FB myself. I guess getting the cash for the hardware is not enough for them as they seem to want to make money from advertising on you VR equipment as well.
On the other hand I can see a few benefits for this kinda like with having a MS account for your Xbox hardware. My take is if they want to force having some sort of account then make it something completely different from FB with no connection to it unless we choose to have both accounts linked to each other. I am sure there will be those that have some fancy words of disagreement with me but hey this is just my own opinion on this topic.
If I was going to make a Facebook account, it would be as a 6-year old girl. Who magically became six again every six years. If Facebook shares out that data they're going to go to a federal prison.
That said, its a lot easier to just not use Oculus.
Man, no they won't. Them and Google already share and sell your info to advertisers. And there's rolling leaks that happen among tech companies every few months or so.
Yes, the simplest thing to do is stop endorsing such products by not using them.
Officially, they both claim "we will never sell your data". But they say nothing on giving your data out for free or letting third parties free access to it.
I don't see a meaningful difference. It's all hidden in lawyer terminologies. For some lawyers its all they do - look for workarounds in law. There should be some law that makes it immune to such nonsense.
I know Samsung got in trouble with their TVs few years ago because it said right in their EULA that they will spy on you or something like that.
Of course they don't sell our data. That's the money maker. They sell access to various metrics related to you. This way they can charge ad companies constantly not just one off.
Technically they don't let third parties access it (At least Google, because I think Facebook was caught doing it) They do a shitton of money based on very precise targeted avertising though.
Yes, and facebook knows if you're someone else. They already keep a file on everyone, based on ad data and your own friends/family. They're know you're not 6, or not your child, and might even prompt you about that. It's happened to friends of mine before.
Wait... so you are saying Facebook will know when a somewhat obese middle-aged man is pretending to be a 6-year old girl on the internet?
**Unplugs all computing devices in a panic** **...sh*t, forgets about the wireless things and the TV...** **...and the microwave...** **Dammit! The goddamn toaster as well?**
I have been looking at VR kit for a while now. But I have NEVER considered an Oculus kit just because it was Facebook's.. Now that it ALSO requires a Facebook login, that just seals the deal for me. Always remember Zuck's famous words... "They trust me. Dumb fucks"
Lack of profile support is already pretty annoying with my household's Quest - you can't have multiple people playing through a given game, then you often have to delete and reinstall to let them play once you're done (so you lost your save). I could care less about having my Facebook account tied in, somehow, but I REALLY don't want my teenagers using a device tied to my Facebook account, any more than I login to my computers and let them use them.
In addition to the prescient 'I told you so' comments here, and focusing on the various usage profile leaks every time a company is sold, it's my sad duty to report recent news (August, 2020) that FB has become statistically tribalized to predominate usage by one of the major parties, and Twitter to the other.
I don't know exactly how this one tribal presumption could work to one's disadvantage, other than maybe advertising that you don't want to see. But this is a drip, drip.
We assume that a certain foreign country is big-data compiling profiles of every citizen on the planet. (E.g. Equifax breach May through July 2017; Office of Personnel Management data breach, May 7, 2014.) And is linking each profile to everyone else they know through app-snatched phone contact lists.
It's not too difficult to forsee that if one criticises the policies, or makes fun of certain foreign leaders, one's relatives could be threatened with something true (drugs, sex, youth crime), that you don't even know about.
Paranoia? A precursor event already happened to Sony, so I'd call it Futurism.
Personally my main gripe with requiring a facebook account is not as much that facebook tracks you / posts things all over, but rather that a facebook account cannot be tied to an online pseudonym. Or at least not officially and not without risk of losing your account.
This seems horrendous. There isnt any logical reason to have a facebook account to be linked with occulus or any other VR game device. But remembering how Zukerberg has said that there will be a popup warning if someone links to a news story that is over 3 months old, seems expected. I have heard that its also supported by news media - I just dont understand how the history of story is a problem. It almost seems like a hambuger with whipped cream instead of ketchup situation, but sometimes ridiculous makes it pass the social censors and becomes ok anyway. I wonder if it will work? Or will the outrage force facebook to go back to be a social network instead of bullying folks to join or be satisfied when they get a cardboard smartphone add-on to get their VR satisfaction. It seems very close to breaking a law, im just not sure what one :/ How can you force someone to be a part of a social network because they also happen to be the umbrella organization for a popular $500 VR headset....or it wont work. Dont the Crips and the Bloods work this way? If you dont join us we will break your knees and damage your property. You better join or your safety is at risk. I wanna blame this on DJT but admittedly its a long shot....or is it?
Just to add to what most others have already stated - this is unacceptable to me. I own a Rift S and I will now be selling it to replace with one of the many excellent competitors available today. I already felt uneasy with Facebook owning Oculus, but the fact the accounts were not linked was enough for me at the time. I do not want to be forced to have or use a Facebook account, particularly not just to use hardware for products not owned or licensed by Facebook.
I will also be advising friends and colleagues to avoid Oculus hardware going forward and encourage those with Oculus hardware to upgrade to a more trustworthy competitor.
The sad thing is, I know this relatively small community of tech enthusiasts here at Anandtech will have little impact on the wider market. It is, after all, an echo chamber.
On every tech site, gaming site, and forum I've visited, I haven't seen one person defend Facebook or even say "this is fine."
The VR market is particularly depending on techy early adopters. Its not the end of Oculus for sure, but this is a bigger deal than your average internet nerd rage incident.
Currently having an Oculus account but no Facebook account, the two would be functionally equivalent for me: One is an account on Facebook's servers used only for Oculus Home, the other is an account on Facebook's servers used only for Oculus Home. Different name, same thing. It's not like I'm going to suddenly start visiting Facebook and posting pictures voluntarily for no reason, or turn off the existing blocks on their webbug domains for general browsing.
They could do that already, as could any developer (and regardless of platform, e.g. a game sold on Steam can also contain adverts). At most, they could advertise.. other games to buy. Oh no, the exact same thing thing they're doing already and every other games store does!
Facebook has the unfortunate habit of acquiring, making non-legally-binding promises to founders/owners, and then breaking those a while later. We can see that in the cases of WhatsApp and Oculus, among others. This is unnecessary - for example, we don't see Microsoft doing that to Minecraft accounts - and it's very unpleasant, as a consumer, to see it happen. The pattern makes it clear that once Facebook acquires, it's time to get out of that equipment unless you're happy to eventually go all-in on Facebook.
never have had and never will have a Facebook account think its the saddest and most idiotic thing ever to even want one and let the red haired devil get his fingers into my life I dont even use whatsapp
I am not sure I understand why they are doing this: Do they actually expect to gain more than emnity?
Of course I understand why they'd want everyone on Facebook, but I don't know why they are choosing force, when it only increases the attack surface from societies with saner leadership than the US.
Not that I dislike Trump's decision for TikTok and others to hand over US operations to a domestic company, because it is actually logical and now will mean that whatever Facebook US is announcing with regards to Oculus, won't mean a thing to Facebook Germany that they had to sell to Bertelsmann next year.
These 'innovative' exa-companies need to be broken up into mini-Bells, the client devices made independent from the platforms, the content creation from both and then everything at cultural and legal divides, because the idea that clouds should have distinct rules clearly clashes with sovereignty of both individuals and nations or collectives.
I crowdfunded the DK1, bought DK2, got a CV1 for free and bought another CV1 for my kids: All of my commercial transactions were not with Facebook, which is blocked by my IDS.
I am not chattel to be bought and strip mined for data by anyone unless I agree and get paid for it. I don't buy games from the Oculus store, because I prefer Steam as a platform. I believe I have a legal right not to have my devices disabled by Facebook and hopefully by 2023 there will just be headsets so much better and cheaper that I don't mind throwing Oculus away.
The headset with the Qualcomm XR2 chipset are coming from many, many manufacturers (I guess they'll all be manufactured by Goertak though) so their will be a lot of wireless alternatives soon.
I hope Nintendo steps up and does a proper wireless successor to the Virtual Boy in light of this walling off of Oculus. They have a knack for taking existing technology and making successful implementations of novel form factors from them. A partnership with Qualcomm which can properly do the hardware for connectivity and VR rendering (https://bit.ly/3iRkcRmhttps://engt.co/328WVDL) would make sense.
Does Facebook also give itself the right to capture and store the images required for VR/enhanced reality? Same question goes for the content shown by these headsets.
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bleh111 - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Number of Oculus headsets that will be purchased by me: 0IntelUser2000 - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Bullets, say hi to foot.Reflex - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Lots of alternatives.PeachNCream - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
Google did the same thing with YouTube. Microsoft did the same thing with Hotmail. All of these acquisitions by data-farming, privacy-invading, corporations of smaller fish companies result in equally revolting walks down the same path to the festering pool of malfeasance in which customers are expected to gratefully bathe themselves. It's just some companies (Google and Facebook in particular) are much more revolting than others due to how they depend on the exploitation of their users to survive.Jake13942 - Saturday, August 22, 2020 - link
Facebook is apparently oblivious to pro usages of a VR headset that *ahem* require privacy. Even Chrome has an incognito mode ffs.pqjjxkpq - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
in true DARPA fashion. never change, lifelog.nagi603 - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Not surprising, also finally we can tell people "told you so".sorten - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Exactly. Only surprise is how long it took.nico_mach - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
It's kind of surprising to me! I thought Facebook was doing ok? How desperate are they that they have to tie VR headsets, of all things, to Facebook logins? How bad are things over there, right now?They're infamous for falsifying ad numbers (they get caught and have to correct themselves virtually every year remember autoplay videos fiasco?), I wonder if things have gotten so much worse lately? Are twitter and reddit so much more popular now or what?
mrvco - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
They're circling the wagons as tightly as possible to make any sort of anti-trust / regulatory break-up virtually impossible.ballsystemlord - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I totally agree.EliteRetard - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
I'll need to make sure all my friends and family sell their devices now.I have no problem helping them select and setup a different VR device.
I rarely tolerate forced accounts, and Facebook is an absolute no.
damianrobertjones - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
...Knows one person with a VR device.TheyCallMeDanger - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Well now you know two! :)pdf - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Congratulations Facebook, you just made future purchases very simple - anything but Occulus.MrVibrato - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Ahem... en.wikipedia.org / wiki / OcculusSantaAna12 - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Oculus taken off shopping list. Reason: no 3.5mm headphone jack. Uh......no....Facebook arrogance? Yeah. Thats it.rocky12345 - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
Seems like a conflict of interest since both are owned by same people and requiring a FB account just to use the hardware you purchased seems a bit messed up. Also why would I want anyone on FB to know what VR games I am playing? If I want them to know I will post that information on FB myself. I guess getting the cash for the hardware is not enough for them as they seem to want to make money from advertising on you VR equipment as well.On the other hand I can see a few benefits for this kinda like with having a MS account for your Xbox hardware. My take is if they want to force having some sort of account then make it something completely different from FB with no connection to it unless we choose to have both accounts linked to each other. I am sure there will be those that have some fancy words of disagreement with me but hey this is just my own opinion on this topic.
GreenReaper - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
It's the opposite of a conflict of interest; if Facebook owns Oculus, its interests are Oculus' interests.Whether it is in Oculus' customers' interests is largely irrelevant.
soresu - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
A conflict of interest?This is precisely why they bought Oculus in the first place - for VR social networking, not gaming.
Gaming is just the appetizer and the initial market grower for Facebook.
Anyone who did not expect this outcome is an idiot - Facebook are not Valve, they are not and never were a games company.
nico_mach - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Farmville: "How dare you!?"EdgeOfDetroit - Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - link
If I was going to make a Facebook account, it would be as a 6-year old girl. Who magically became six again every six years. If Facebook shares out that data they're going to go to a federal prison.That said, its a lot easier to just not use Oculus.
IntelUser2000 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Man, no they won't. Them and Google already share and sell your info to advertisers. And there's rolling leaks that happen among tech companies every few months or so.Yes, the simplest thing to do is stop endorsing such products by not using them.
Infy2 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Officially, they both claim "we will never sell your data". But they say nothing on giving your data out for free or letting third parties free access to it.sonny73n - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
They would make some sort of deal with the ad companies with your data. They don’t “sell” your data but it’s definitely not for free.IntelUser2000 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I don't see a meaningful difference. It's all hidden in lawyer terminologies. For some lawyers its all they do - look for workarounds in law. There should be some law that makes it immune to such nonsense.I know Samsung got in trouble with their TVs few years ago because it said right in their EULA that they will spy on you or something like that.
icebox - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Of course they don't sell our data. That's the money maker. They sell access to various metrics related to you. This way they can charge ad companies constantly not just one off.SirPerro - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
Technically they don't let third parties access it (At least Google, because I think Facebook was caught doing it) They do a shitton of money based on very precise targeted avertising though.damianrobertjones - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Legally, don't you have to be x age to create an account? (Above 6)nico_mach - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Yes, and facebook knows if you're someone else. They already keep a file on everyone, based on ad data and your own friends/family. They're know you're not 6, or not your child, and might even prompt you about that. It's happened to friends of mine before.MrVibrato - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Wait... so you are saying Facebook will know when a somewhat obese middle-aged man is pretending to be a 6-year old girl on the internet?**Unplugs all computing devices in a panic**
**...sh*t, forgets about the wireless things and the TV...**
**...and the microwave...**
**Dammit! The goddamn toaster as well?**
CBeddoe - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Lame.I'm not buying any Facebook hardware.
Oculus = Fail.
MrVibrato - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Fortunately, their main offerings are services. And those don't need to be bought (at least not if you are the product). Lucky you... ;-)croc - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I have been looking at VR kit for a while now. But I have NEVER considered an Oculus kit just because it was Facebook's.. Now that it ALSO requires a Facebook login, that just seals the deal for me. Always remember Zuck's famous words... "They trust me. Dumb fucks"MrVibrato - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
"But I have NEVER considered...""that just seals the deal for me"
Does that mean, that from now on you never ever ever never consider an Oculus?
willis936 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Break them up.close - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Breaking Zuck up would be lovely.nandnandnand - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
They can just reassemble him.MrVibrato - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Nah, they just pour a new one from the silicon mold they have stored at Facebook HQ.dshess - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Lack of profile support is already pretty annoying with my household's Quest - you can't have multiple people playing through a given game, then you often have to delete and reinstall to let them play once you're done (so you lost your save). I could care less about having my Facebook account tied in, somehow, but I REALLY don't want my teenagers using a device tied to my Facebook account, any more than I login to my computers and let them use them.Zyzix - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
In addition to the prescient 'I told you so' comments here, and focusing on the various usage profile leaks every time a company is sold, it's my sad duty to report recent news (August, 2020) that FB has become statistically tribalized to predominate usage by one of the major parties, and Twitter to the other.I don't know exactly how this one tribal presumption could work to one's disadvantage, other than maybe advertising that you don't want to see. But this is a drip, drip.
We assume that a certain foreign country is big-data compiling profiles of every citizen on the planet. (E.g. Equifax breach May through July 2017; Office of Personnel Management data breach, May 7, 2014.) And is linking each profile to everyone else they know through app-snatched phone contact lists.
It's not too difficult to forsee that if one criticises the policies, or makes fun of certain foreign leaders, one's relatives could be threatened with something true (drugs, sex, youth crime), that you don't even know about.
Paranoia? A precursor event already happened to Sony, so I'd call it Futurism.
qlum - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Personally my main gripe with requiring a facebook account is not as much that facebook tracks you / posts things all over, but rather that a facebook account cannot be tied to an online pseudonym. Or at least not officially and not without risk of losing your account.Blaab1 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
This seems horrendous. There isnt any logical reason to have a facebook account to be linked with occulus or any other VR game device. But remembering how Zukerberg has said that there will be a popup warning if someone links to a news story that is over 3 months old, seems expected. I have heard that its also supported by news media - I just dont understand how the history of story is a problem. It almost seems like a hambuger with whipped cream instead of ketchup situation, but sometimes ridiculous makes it pass the social censors and becomes ok anyway. I wonder if it will work? Or will the outrage force facebook to go back to be a social network instead of bullying folks to join or be satisfied when they get a cardboard smartphone add-on to get their VR satisfaction. It seems very close to breaking a law, im just not sure what one :/ How can you force someone to be a part of a social network because they also happen to be the umbrella organization for a popular $500 VR headset....or it wont work. Dont the Crips and the Bloods work this way? If you dont join us we will break your knees and damage your property. You better join or your safety is at risk. I wanna blame this on DJT but admittedly its a long shot....or is it?Socius - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Well I guess that means I’ll never be able to use one.MattMe - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Just to add to what most others have already stated - this is unacceptable to me. I own a Rift S and I will now be selling it to replace with one of the many excellent competitors available today. I already felt uneasy with Facebook owning Oculus, but the fact the accounts were not linked was enough for me at the time.I do not want to be forced to have or use a Facebook account, particularly not just to use hardware for products not owned or licensed by Facebook.
I will also be advising friends and colleagues to avoid Oculus hardware going forward and encourage those with Oculus hardware to upgrade to a more trustworthy competitor.
The sad thing is, I know this relatively small community of tech enthusiasts here at Anandtech will have little impact on the wider market. It is, after all, an echo chamber.
brucethemoose - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
On every tech site, gaming site, and forum I've visited, I haven't seen one person defend Facebook or even say "this is fine."The VR market is particularly depending on techy early adopters. Its not the end of Oculus for sure, but this is a bigger deal than your average internet nerd rage incident.
brucethemoose - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
*dependantedzieba - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Currently having an Oculus account but no Facebook account, the two would be functionally equivalent for me: One is an account on Facebook's servers used only for Oculus Home, the other is an account on Facebook's servers used only for Oculus Home. Different name, same thing. It's not like I'm going to suddenly start visiting Facebook and posting pictures voluntarily for no reason, or turn off the existing blocks on their webbug domains for general browsing.alufan - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Thats what you think now but wait till it happens and your seeing your adverts and spam from Facebookedzieba - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
They could do that already, as could any developer (and regardless of platform, e.g. a game sold on Steam can also contain adverts). At most, they could advertise.. other games to buy. Oh no, the exact same thing thing they're doing already and every other games store does!Carmen00 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Facebook has the unfortunate habit of acquiring, making non-legally-binding promises to founders/owners, and then breaking those a while later. We can see that in the cases of WhatsApp and Oculus, among others. This is unnecessary - for example, we don't see Microsoft doing that to Minecraft accounts - and it's very unpleasant, as a consumer, to see it happen. The pattern makes it clear that once Facebook acquires, it's time to get out of that equipment unless you're happy to eventually go all-in on Facebook.MetalmanExe - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
i can't speak for other systems, but the switch does require you to have a microsoft account for minecraft.Facebooks decision is still sh*t though
lmcd - Friday, August 21, 2020 - link
There's two editions of Minecraft. The classic Java version afaik is the only one the promise was about.Spunjji - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Gross. No sale for me!Midwayman - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Perfect example of why I bought everything VR on steam when possible even if offered through oculus.alufan - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
never have had and never will have a Facebook account think its the saddest and most idiotic thing ever to even want one and let the red haired devil get his fingers into my life I dont even use whatsappKrysto - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Facebook: We'll socialize the hell out of people until morale improves!meacupla - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
This is a death sentence for oculusuefi - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Is "socialization" the tech journalism way to say datamined?abufrejoval - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I am not sure I understand why they are doing this: Do they actually expect to gain more than emnity?Of course I understand why they'd want everyone on Facebook, but I don't know why they are choosing force, when it only increases the attack surface from societies with saner leadership than the US.
Not that I dislike Trump's decision for TikTok and others to hand over US operations to a domestic company, because it is actually logical and now will mean that whatever Facebook US is announcing with regards to Oculus, won't mean a thing to Facebook Germany that they had to sell to Bertelsmann next year.
These 'innovative' exa-companies need to be broken up into mini-Bells, the client devices made independent from the platforms, the content creation from both and then everything at cultural and legal divides, because the idea that clouds should have distinct rules clearly clashes with sovereignty of both individuals and nations or collectives.
I crowdfunded the DK1, bought DK2, got a CV1 for free and bought another CV1 for my kids: All of my commercial transactions were not with Facebook, which is blocked by my IDS.
I am not chattel to be bought and strip mined for data by anyone unless I agree and get paid for it. I don't buy games from the Oculus store, because I prefer Steam as a platform. I believe I have a legal right not to have my devices disabled by Facebook and hopefully by 2023 there will just be headsets so much better and cheaper that I don't mind throwing Oculus away.
Thud2 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
The headset with the Qualcomm XR2 chipset are coming from many, many manufacturers (I guess they'll all be manufactured by Goertak though) so their will be a lot of wireless alternatives soon.edzieba - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
I'd expect XR2 to have similar adoption to Qualcomm XR1 and VR820.Thud2 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I'm gonna miss all the R&D progress that Facebook brings though.Oxford Guy - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Welcome to the new world order, where corporation use you.You are not the customer. You are the product.
mrvco - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
LOL, no. Just no.I de-platformed Facebook and its subsidiary companies from my life a long time ago.
Raqia - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
I hope Nintendo steps up and does a proper wireless successor to the Virtual Boy in light of this walling off of Oculus. They have a knack for taking existing technology and making successful implementations of novel form factors from them. A partnership with Qualcomm which can properly do the hardware for connectivity and VR rendering (https://bit.ly/3iRkcRm https://engt.co/328WVDL) would make sense.tommyboy32927 - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
My rift will have died by time they force me to use facebookBeaver M. - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
Thats a lot of damage to the VR sector.Why do that?
blzd - Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - link
This just made me realize I haven't deleted my FB account yet. Thanks Oculus!eastcoast_pete - Thursday, August 20, 2020 - link
Does Facebook also give itself the right to capture and store the images required for VR/enhanced reality? Same questiongoes for the content shown by these headsets.
Notmyusualid - Friday, August 21, 2020 - link
Ryan - I am SO happy you reported this.Oculus won't see a dime from me.
Jake13942 - Saturday, August 22, 2020 - link
I wanted to buy a VR headset for a while, was looking into Oculus Rift S but this "requiring Facebook" is a big NO NO for me.TikTokd - Saturday, August 7, 2021 - link
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