Genuinely, how many people watch HDR media / movies on a desktop computer? This isn't a gaming monitor: the inclusion of type-C, the capped frame rate, the lack of red plastic, etc.
Take away the specification and it's still a solid monitor for the price. The addition, or lack thereof, of HDR capabilities doesn't take away the uniqueness of this monitor.
A 4K, IPS, type-C, 100% sRGB, 400-nit, VESA-mount monitor for ~$500 (assuming conversion rates - VAT) is pretty good.
I like your style. Just throwing out a trollish comment without citing any empirical statistic whatsoever. Nicely demonstrating yourself as that with which you assert.
This is common knowledge. This is why Nvidia & many enforce HDR1000 for LCD & TrueBlack 400/500 for OLED (that LG complies with). That is why Apple even made sure for their baseline HDR monitor to have 1000nits sustained + HDR1600.
HDR1000 and HDR400/500 True Black are VESA specifications. That has NOTHING to do with Nvidia.
Nvidia USED to force 1000 peak nits in order to certify for G-Sync Ultimate, but most displays cannot get anywhere near close to 1000 peak nits so they had to scrap that idea.
As this article mentions, Nvidia removed the 1000 nits certification for G-Sync Ultimate.
HDR1600 isn't a specification. You are making that shit. Your comment is a year old, and yet VESA HDR1400 only just became a thing this year in 2021.... your HDR1600 is a fucking joke. You are an elitist minded person with 0 knowledge and it shows.
For average joes, budget HDR has been HDR600 and HDR1000+ for creative professionals & home HDR content (1000 spec is the minimum spec required for grading of HDR video content). For those watching HDR content at home, Dolby Vision & HDR10+ also necessitate using HDR1000.
OLED is an exception w/ TrueBlack HDR creteria of 400 & 500. LG, who practically supplies OLED to all the other OLED TVs & most monitors long have met this creteria.
Bunkum. Zero evidence exists for this assertion; in fact I'd be willing to bet 90%+ of consumers haven't even seen HDR in action. You could make an argument that it's more useful for content creators, but then if they need HDR they're going to get a proper FALD/OLED display and not screw around with a basic LCD panel.
Virtually none because this is the garbage every single company is putting into the market. I would LOVE to watch HDR movies, or play games with HDR, but I also don't want to spend $3k to be able to do so at 4k. It isn't that the monitor is bad otherwise, just that I could already buy one exactly like it for $350 2-3 years ago (which I did)
If nobody wants or needs HDR, then why not take nonsensical labels like "DisplayHDR 400" (which in 100% of situations means "SDR, but pretends to accept HDR") off the monitor and just sell it as a decent SDR monitor? The presence of lies in the specsheet is absolutely a reason to lambast a monitor. Back when EDTVs were sold as 'HD capable' they were rightly lambasted as not being HD, regardless of whether or not they could accept a HD input, it would only ever be displayed as 852x480, regardless of whether they were decent as EDTVs, because they attempted to lie as a selling point.
I guess you probably don't actually want an answer, but.. because it is really nice to look at? Especially for drawings / Cad / Linework. I am an architect with 2 27 inch 4K monitors on my desk. Not sure I need MORE dpi, but I definitely won't go back to any less.
Because 27 inch is WAY to small of a monitor for the screen size. Pretty much universally known. Most people are waiting out for good spec 32+inch ones.
"Pretty much universally known" By whom? It's a tedious opinion shared by people who have an allergy to scaling settings and/or more desk space than sense.
I'd far rather have the higher density on a display that will *actually fit on my desk*. At 150% scaling you get the same real-estate as a 27" 2.5K display but with far better text rendering. Win/win.
Yes, and even if you scale all the windows + text UI and don't care about the increased sharpness there, line drawings still benefit from the increased DPI
Wait: DisplayPort 1.4 output? As in, you can daisy-chain another monitor?
Add a cheap USB Ethernet adaptor, if required, and it's got an integrated docking station with minimal wires (given the lack of success of wireless docking).
Puts "Gaming" after the branding and overprices it - still crap. Puts "Professional" on a low end specs and overprices it - still crap It is nearly 2021: how about USB 4, 10bit HDR, 1ms response time, 120Hz, VRR, HDMI 2.1, 100W charging, factory calibrated. All the little things that make the difference.
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ScarabMonkey - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
We all love a good montior.edzieba - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
And with Display'HDR' 400, this isn't one of them.ikjadoon - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Genuinely, how many people watch HDR media / movies on a desktop computer? This isn't a gaming monitor: the inclusion of type-C, the capped frame rate, the lack of red plastic, etc.Take away the specification and it's still a solid monitor for the price. The addition, or lack thereof, of HDR capabilities doesn't take away the uniqueness of this monitor.
A 4K, IPS, type-C, 100% sRGB, 400-nit, VESA-mount monitor for ~$500 (assuming conversion rates - VAT) is pretty good.
lilkwarrior - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
This is an asinine rebuttal. People far more prefer HDR over resolution. There's little excuse in 2020 to accept such low-end HDR on a LCD monitor.WarriorWarrior - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
I like your style. Just throwing out a trollish comment without citing any empirical statistic whatsoever. Nicely demonstrating yourself as that with which you assert.lilkwarrior - Sunday, August 16, 2020 - link
This is common knowledge. This is why Nvidia & many enforce HDR1000 for LCD & TrueBlack 400/500 for OLED (that LG complies with). That is why Apple even made sure for their baseline HDR monitor to have 1000nits sustained + HDR1600.namcost - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link
WRONG.HDR1000 and HDR400/500 True Black are VESA specifications. That has NOTHING to do with Nvidia.
Nvidia USED to force 1000 peak nits in order to certify for G-Sync Ultimate, but most displays cannot get anywhere near close to 1000 peak nits so they had to scrap that idea.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-clears-up...
As this article mentions, Nvidia removed the 1000 nits certification for G-Sync Ultimate.
HDR1600 isn't a specification. You are making that shit. Your comment is a year old, and yet VESA HDR1400 only just became a thing this year in 2021.... your HDR1600 is a fucking joke. You are an elitist minded person with 0 knowledge and it shows.
lilkwarrior - Sunday, August 16, 2020 - link
For average joes, budget HDR has been HDR600 and HDR1000+ for creative professionals & home HDR content (1000 spec is the minimum spec required for grading of HDR video content). For those watching HDR content at home, Dolby Vision & HDR10+ also necessitate using HDR1000.OLED is an exception w/ TrueBlack HDR creteria of 400 & 500. LG, who practically supplies OLED to all the other OLED TVs & most monitors long have met this creteria.
You're grossly misinformed to state otherwise.
Spunjji - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
Bunkum. Zero evidence exists for this assertion; in fact I'd be willing to bet 90%+ of consumers haven't even seen HDR in action. You could make an argument that it's more useful for content creators, but then if they need HDR they're going to get a proper FALD/OLED display and not screw around with a basic LCD panel.FullmetalTitan - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
Virtually none because this is the garbage every single company is putting into the market. I would LOVE to watch HDR movies, or play games with HDR, but I also don't want to spend $3k to be able to do so at 4k. It isn't that the monitor is bad otherwise, just that I could already buy one exactly like it for $350 2-3 years ago (which I did)edzieba - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
If nobody wants or needs HDR, then why not take nonsensical labels like "DisplayHDR 400" (which in 100% of situations means "SDR, but pretends to accept HDR") off the monitor and just sell it as a decent SDR monitor? The presence of lies in the specsheet is absolutely a reason to lambast a monitor. Back when EDTVs were sold as 'HD capable' they were rightly lambasted as not being HD, regardless of whether or not they could accept a HD input, it would only ever be displayed as 852x480, regardless of whether they were decent as EDTVs, because they attempted to lie as a selling point.Great_Scott - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Who owns the Philips brand name now, anyways? I know it's been passed around a lot.Great_Scott - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Yay no edits! Apparently, Philips is a low-end (medium-end?) brand for Lucky Goldstar nowadays.Great_Scott - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Edited Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPV_Technology is the ODM.imaheadcase - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Sigh another 27inch monitor with 4k..why bother.Omar Daal - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
I guess you probably don't actually want an answer, but.. because it is really nice to look at? Especially for drawings / Cad / Linework. I am an architect with 2 27 inch 4K monitors on my desk. Not sure I need MORE dpi, but I definitely won't go back to any less.imaheadcase - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
Because 27 inch is WAY to small of a monitor for the screen size. Pretty much universally known. Most people are waiting out for good spec 32+inch ones.Spunjji - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
"Pretty much universally known"By whom? It's a tedious opinion shared by people who have an allergy to scaling settings and/or more desk space than sense.
I'd far rather have the higher density on a display that will *actually fit on my desk*. At 150% scaling you get the same real-estate as a 27" 2.5K display but with far better text rendering. Win/win.
Omar Daal - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
Yes, and even if you scale all the windows + text UI and don't care about the increased sharpness there, line drawings still benefit from the increased DPIjamesindevon - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Wait: DisplayPort 1.4 output? As in, you can daisy-chain another monitor?Add a cheap USB Ethernet adaptor, if required, and it's got an integrated docking station with minimal wires (given the lack of success of wireless docking).
edzieba - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
Yes, it's a relatively common capability using Displayport's Multi Stream Transport mechanism.Alistair - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
If you're not using a fast panel, fine, no 144hz. But every monitor should be 90hz or higher. Period. Disgusting.Zingam - Friday, August 14, 2020 - link
Puts "Gaming" after the branding and overprices it - still crap.Puts "Professional" on a low end specs and overprices it - still crap
It is nearly 2021: how about USB 4, 10bit HDR, 1ms response time, 120Hz, VRR, HDMI 2.1, 100W charging, factory calibrated. All the little things that make the difference.
Dell???
PixyMisa - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
Nobody has USB 4 yet.Zingam - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
To have it, you have to buy it first.imaheadcase - Saturday, August 15, 2020 - link
HDR is not really something seek after, its not a game changer at all for a purchase.Drazick - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
Give us 3000 x 2000 in 32" IPS Screen.The 3:2 ratio is the best for content creation (See Microsoft Surface).
morello159 - Monday, August 17, 2020 - link
Not sure 4k is worth the price over a Dell U2719DC, which has similar features otherwise.