Now I'm curious, do phones generally come with a no dead pixel guarantee? I know some high end monitors do. And the low end ones, the manufacturer might say that a few dead pixels are fine.
I’ve setup thousands of iPhones over the last decade and never seen a dead pixel in an original or OEM replacement screen. That’s part of the Apple tax though, and where form over function might actually make sense in this particular case.
Let say you said something you shouldn’t have on a phone, would you rather have that record be kept on a Chinese server or on a US server?
I’m sure that since you used a device that have a microphone or a webcam, you have made stupid mistakes at least once or twice. But luckily for you, you’re a nobody. Your government wouldn’t waste money and human resources to come after a brainwashed nobody such as you. However, that doesn’t mean you’re off the hook. You know damn well everything you do on or around a smart device is being recorded and kept forever. But here you are, spreading the BS and hate on the Chinese. Didn’t you know that your government spy on you much more than the Chinese ever can?
or just unlock the bootloader and install open-source custom rom so it'll be free of spyware. if shit happens at least Xiaomi still honor your warranty even if you tampered the software.
Real shame how the price has skyrocketed between generations... I got a Mi 9 (128) for €400 w/ tax about a year ago. Of course they stopped producing it and you can't get it any longer.
A flagship is one of the few avenues they have to make money. Xiaomi has openly admitted that they have a policy to make not more than 5% margin on their devices.
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Between the increased cost of the SD865, 5G antennas, and the 108MP sensor, it was inevitable. There's still the Redmi K30 Pro / Poco F2 Pro for $500 affordable flagship
Only in the delusional fantasy land that is Anandtech can a phone that sells for 999€ be considered a "solid value." That sort of headline is laughably disconnected from the economic realities of the world.
I've found price delusion to be really common in online reviews. Phone prices spike up into the cieling and the reviewers say nothing. The Google/LG Nexus 5 released less than 7 years ago offered flagship features for $349. Nearly 3 times the price in only 7 years is not inflation. It's highway robbery.
" Nearly 3 times the price in only 7 years is not inflation. It's highway robbery."
could be that $600/week bonus for being out of a job is giving them better choices. ya think I'm joking: "The chief also felt the island was seeing so many young people due to what he called “stimulus package money” — unemployed young people who were provided an additional $600 in their unemployment benefits during the lockdown."
Socialism works both ways: ya give extra moolah to the poor, they'll spend it; give it to rich folks and they sit on it or buy stocks and bonds. guess which keeps the real economy going? as it happens, that Island dries and blows away without the dayhoppers. gad.
I was replying to 'why do smartphone prices go up more than national inflation'? the answer is that consumers have the moolah to throw at discretionary buys. that's one of them.
Genuinely wondering which side of the 'which keeps the real economy going' question you are on. Because the well demonstrated factual answer to that was to give the money to the poor, the economic outcomes from that are historically demonstrated to be much, much better.
If you actually read the review instead of immediately spewing hatred you will read that I say it's not worth for 999€, however the Mi 10 can be had for 560€ which is a great value.
"Overall, is the Mi 10 Pro worth it? It depends on the price, there’s no bad products, just bad prices. At the launch MSRPs of 999€ the 10 Pro I think certainly wouldn’t be worth the price as there’s other better alternatives out there such as the OnePlus 8 Pro. Currently the Mi 10 Pro however does go for around 760€ "
I'm sure you meant "Mi 10" and not "Mi 10 Pro" in the last sentence. But you should also revise the first one to say something like "Overall, are these phones worth it?"
My comment was shorter than your review and you didn't bother to read it entirely before leaping to a conclusion so speak for yourself. I specifically pointed out the headline is laughably disconnected.
A recursive photo (photo of a phone displaying the article, including that phone) would be a great cover image for your photo review. A little more work, but more fun.
I had high hopes that they would work on their mistakes (From the Mi 9. I use one) but looks like they have not. Their phones are absolutely stellar but whoever decides or manages their software implementation are a bunch of retards. It took almost a year for them to correct a simple self timer feature on the stock camera app, to bring it up to the industry standard 10 seconds. The options were only 3 and 5 seconds which is almost useless. No matter what you do, the camera software simply can't stay off skin tones. It has to interfere. Then there are random marketing advertisements that pop up. Some can be inappropriate. Why screw things up with a flagship device? For as long as you have such flaws, you can forget about more people buying your top tier phone. I'll probably keep buying their phones cause I am cheap but you're missing out on a large part of a consumer base due to some serious, though easily addressable flaws.
I do not see how this can be considered good value even at the street price of 760 euros. For a flagship phone and at 760 euros, I would expect top-notch cameras and a better display. There are so many better alternatives to consider at this price point.
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Xex360 - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Nothing solid about a phone with a bunch of dead pixels and headphone jack.PeterCollier - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Now I'm curious, do phones generally come with a no dead pixel guarantee? I know some high end monitors do. And the low end ones, the manufacturer might say that a few dead pixels are fine.Samus - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
I’ve setup thousands of iPhones over the last decade and never seen a dead pixel in an original or OEM replacement screen. That’s part of the Apple tax though, and where form over function might actually make sense in this particular case.Arsenica - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
I think you mean a phone with no headphone jack.But at this price point and feature set I would rather buy a Galaxy S20+ and not worry about Chinese spyware (Korean spyware is way cooler).
sonny73n - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
Let say you said something you shouldn’t have on a phone, would you rather have that record be kept on a Chinese server or on a US server?I’m sure that since you used a device that have a microphone or a webcam, you have made stupid mistakes at least once or twice. But luckily for you, you’re a nobody. Your government wouldn’t waste money and human resources to come after a brainwashed nobody such as you. However, that doesn’t mean you’re off the hook. You know damn well everything you do on or around a smart device is being recorded and kept forever. But here you are, spreading the BS and hate on the Chinese. Didn’t you know that your government spy on you much more than the Chinese ever can?
Fulljack - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
or just unlock the bootloader and install open-source custom rom so it'll be free of spyware. if shit happens at least Xiaomi still honor your warranty even if you tampered the software.1_rick - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
What dead pixels? Or are you talking about the hole-punch selfie cam?iphonebestgamephone - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
So the phones with thicker bezels had much larger areas of dead pixels or what?nagi603 - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Real shame how the price has skyrocketed between generations... I got a Mi 9 (128) for €400 w/ tax about a year ago. Of course they stopped producing it and you can't get it any longer.ads295 - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
A flagship is one of the few avenues they have to make money. Xiaomi has openly admitted that they have a policy to make not more than 5% margin on their devices.Elizabeth221 - Friday, July 31, 2020 - link
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Retycint - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Between the increased cost of the SD865, 5G antennas, and the 108MP sensor, it was inevitable. There's still the Redmi K30 Pro / Poco F2 Pro for $500 affordable flagshipLaibalion - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Or the Realme X50 Pro 5G, which has better specs than the K30 Pro and Poco F2, for a similar price-point.Fritzkier - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Depends on the market, here Realme X50 Pro is way more expensive than Poco F2 Pro.The only similar price point here is the Realme X3 Zoom, that have 855 instead of 865 and without 5G.
Fritzkier - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
And also, if you into custom rom development, Poco F2 Pro is the better choice hands down.Realme notoriously make it difficult to do custom rom on their device, maybe to prevent them flashing better ROM like AOSP? Idk.
damianrobertjones - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
"8K video recording"Would have loved to have read something about this feature.
zodiacfml - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Isnt this similar in price to the ASUS ROG III?Kishoreshack - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Good that after the budget segment they are also making good phones in flagship segment
DZor - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
"4G + 5G NR NSA+SA Sub-6GHz" - NSA means directly connected/controlled by NSA?GlossGhost - Monday, July 27, 2020 - link
Yes the non-standalone direct connection to NSA. For your safety.PeachNCream - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Only in the delusional fantasy land that is Anandtech can a phone that sells for 999€ be considered a "solid value." That sort of headline is laughably disconnected from the economic realities of the world.Flunk - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
I've found price delusion to be really common in online reviews. Phone prices spike up into the cieling and the reviewers say nothing. The Google/LG Nexus 5 released less than 7 years ago offered flagship features for $349. Nearly 3 times the price in only 7 years is not inflation. It's highway robbery.FunBunny2 - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
" Nearly 3 times the price in only 7 years is not inflation. It's highway robbery."could be that $600/week bonus for being out of a job is giving them better choices. ya think I'm joking: "The chief also felt the island was seeing so many young people due to what he called “stimulus package money” — unemployed young people who were provided an additional $600 in their unemployment benefits during the lockdown."
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Socialism works both ways: ya give extra moolah to the poor, they'll spend it; give it to rich folks and they sit on it or buy stocks and bonds. guess which keeps the real economy going? as it happens, that Island dries and blows away without the dayhoppers. gad.
PeachNCream - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
I see you've made a long reach so you could have an excuse to post a rant about something entirely unrelated.FunBunny2 - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
I was replying to 'why do smartphone prices go up more than national inflation'? the answer is that consumers have the moolah to throw at discretionary buys. that's one of them.surt - Wednesday, July 29, 2020 - link
Genuinely wondering which side of the 'which keeps the real economy going' question you are on. Because the well demonstrated factual answer to that was to give the money to the poor, the economic outcomes from that are historically demonstrated to be much, much better.Andrei Frumusanu - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
If you actually read the review instead of immediately spewing hatred you will read that I say it's not worth for 999€, however the Mi 10 can be had for 560€ which is a great value.1_rick - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
"Overall, is the Mi 10 Pro worth it? It depends on the price, there’s no bad products, just bad prices. At the launch MSRPs of 999€ the 10 Pro I think certainly wouldn’t be worth the price as there’s other better alternatives out there such as the OnePlus 8 Pro. Currently the Mi 10 Pro however does go for around 760€ "I'm sure you meant "Mi 10" and not "Mi 10 Pro" in the last sentence. But you should also revise the first one to say something like "Overall, are these phones worth it?"
PeachNCream - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
My comment was shorter than your review and you didn't bother to read it entirely before leaping to a conclusion so speak for yourself. I specifically pointed out the headline is laughably disconnected.brucethemoose - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
The comments section is for posting opinions first, and (maybe) reading later :PSivar - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
A recursive photo (photo of a phone displaying the article, including that phone) would be a great cover image for your photo review. A little more work, but more fun.sleeperclass - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
I had high hopes that they would work on their mistakes (From the Mi 9. I use one) but looks like they have not. Their phones are absolutely stellar but whoever decides or manages their software implementation are a bunch of retards. It took almost a year for them to correct a simple self timer feature on the stock camera app, to bring it up to the industry standard 10 seconds. The options were only 3 and 5 seconds which is almost useless. No matter what you do, the camera software simply can't stay off skin tones. It has to interfere. Then there are random marketing advertisements that pop up. Some can be inappropriate. Why screw things up with a flagship device? For as long as you have such flaws, you can forget about more people buying your top tier phone. I'll probably keep buying their phones cause I am cheap but you're missing out on a large part of a consumer base due to some serious, though easily addressable flaws.Midwayman - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
I'm not sure why people would choose this with all the data collection issues with Chinese products right now.** A - R ** - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link
@Andrei,The unit Reviewed was on MIUI 12 ?
makaveli-313 - Saturday, July 25, 2020 - link
Fudge China.Koenig168 - Saturday, July 25, 2020 - link
I do not see how this can be considered good value even at the street price of 760 euros. For a flagship phone and at 760 euros, I would expect top-notch cameras and a better display. There are so many better alternatives to consider at this price point.flyingpants265 - Sunday, July 26, 2020 - link
No front speakers = no buyNo headphone jack = no buy
No IP68 = no buy!
Phone boycott. Do not buy this crappy phone for $999. For that price it needs all the features, not just some.
Bring back $299 phones..
Buy an iPhone SE or something if you like Apple. Used G7/S10/OP6 are fairly cheap. There's other good options too.
FenCPH - Sunday, July 26, 2020 - link
Better yet buy a xcover pro for 350€ with removable battery and headphone jack , mil 810 and water protectionRookierookie - Monday, July 27, 2020 - link
Maybe you haven't noticed, but Xiaomi practically corners the sub-$299 market...Revv233 - Tuesday, August 4, 2020 - link
I always get my hopes up when I see a new phone review.No headphone jack... Pass.
Apparently we can only get them on 3 year old hardware.