Sorry, ordered my Viotek GNV34DBE two weeks ago for $429 at Amazon.com. Looks like it is out of stock again at Newegg & Walmart. Viotek monitor got good reviews all over including Toms Hardware.
Does anyone make something like a 32" 4k, non curved monitor with similar characteristics and price (or close to)? Almost everything I find recommended in reviews that's not ultra wide gets close to 800E.
4k monitors are at a "breakthrough" point right now, lots of good ones, but none are perfect yet. Mostly held back from all the panels being silly 27 inch ones for some reason.
Pretty much everyone is waiting on a 4k, 144Hz, IPS, 32+inch around $800-1000. Right now its "gaming" monitors, or pro level that don't offer high Hz.
I'm of two minds regarding IPS vs. VA. I really like the superior contrast of VA, I like the better viewing angles of the IPS. Don't care that much about the color as long as the reproduction is decent. I currently use a PLS screen (so basically a slightly improved IPS) with 100% sRGB (after calibration). 95% DCI-P3 or 125% sRGB would likely be an improvement even with a VA panel. Also 144Hz is nice but I don't care to pay for it.
My biggest issue is that if I want some "minor" amenities on a decent 400E monitor (like height adjustment) the price instantly doubles because they bundle a lot of other stuff I don't particularly care about. I.e. adjustable height only for the model with IPS panel, some "fancier" speakers, and a remote control.
I wouldn't call PLS an improvement over any current IPS technology. It might be better than the original IPS and cheaper to produce than, say, AH-IPS, but it's definitely not better than AH-IPS etc.
@dotjaz, you just discovered that defining the quality of a product based on a specific technology name that evolves over the years is useless. You can very well have a shitty IPS or a good VA panel. Hence I do not care about "IPS" since IPS can be worse than IPS. That's exactly why I think I can live just fine with a VA panel.
As long as I'm not shopping for the best I'm just trading off one thing for another. A modern good VA panel can be better than a few years old IPS panel. Also law of diminishing returns and all that...
@Foeketijn, I also have a 43" 4K panel and toyed around with quite a few others. I found the quality always substantially worse than a good 27" and below panel. Colors, contrast, ghosting, they all seemed to be worse enough that I find myself not using it for anything other than media. Maybe newer models got better.
You are better off getting a decent adjustable tilt/swivel gas powered arm. I only paid $50 for one for my Viotek 34" monitor and it works great. Unfortunately, I just looked on Amazon and the price is now $20 more!?! I just ordered it on 7/4/2020. Here is the model I bought and like i said works like a charm. I use the wire cable hole on my desk as the mount option, it can also use a desk clamp. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DQYT25/ref=p...
@Freeb!rd, I was thinking more like an adjustable stand that doesn't require any clamping or drilling through the table (so just like a regular monitor stand). That does add to the price of the monitor since stands for larger diagonals tend to be more expensive.
This is why I wish manufacturers would charge $30-50 more and just build the adjustable stand into the monitor, instead of strapping them with the cheapest option possible and putting the adjustable stand only on the premium models.
This monitor was selling for a while and even ships from local US warehouse on some online stores, but now seems like the price dropped a lot- I see it's selling just under 390€ now at USA warehouse: https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mmmRcmbR8K
Nope. WLED backlight. DisplayPort 1.2 only. I mean this is probably better than dell UP2414Q with *modern* tech but I would still prefer wide gamut backlight to wled.
Obviously people with 32" screens are less productive because they can watch more YouTube videos instead of working - somehow. I don't know, it's timecop who has trouble typing more than thirty words in sequence without inserting pointless profanity that he thinks presents him in a certain manner to the rest of us.
I really don't want a television on my desk. 27" is already large enough that I have to do a lot of eye movement to pick up all sides of the screen. At 32" I'd just be pushing the screen further back to avoid having to move my head around, at which point, well, why not 27"...
Do you really want 400 nits ? 200 nits indoor is already very bright even with sunlight through the windows as main light source of the room. I usually calibrate my display to 160 nits for daytime use as my desk is right next to the window.
Definitely if you have morning glare on the screen. Monitor I'm typing on goes up to 450 nits max, 400 nits typical, and it was quite a nice improvement over my 400 nits peak/350 nits typical just before it.
Outside of that morning window, its set to 70%, then at night down to 20%. I'd rather have it be able to go lower than no option.
Note I have it so high as I code with a dark IDE, if light theme I wouldn't need it.
have fun with your overpriced small crap, i got a 43inch tv for 200 bucks thats 2 and a half feet from my head as a monitor and i couldnt be happier, when i build a new computer when new ryzens come out (my first, super excited), i have a 43inch 4k tv also for 200, to replace my 1080p one, the PPI might be lower than a monitor but it still looks good, and i dont think the difference is worth the price difference, you cant get a 43inch monitor for less than 500
And much worse image processing, poor text rendering, etc, etc. There are definitely TVs out there that can work great as huge monitors, but a $200 TV ain't that. I would expect a smeary image, poor colors, screen door effect from the huge pixel pitch, terrible input lag, and a generally poor experience from any TV in that price range. Decent enough for TV content or at 3 meters viewing distance, but nowhere near acceptable for monitor usage.
> I would expect a smeary image, poor colors, screen door effect from the huge pixel pitch [...]
That's probably why he's going for a 4K TV -- to finally get an image quality that's roughly on par with a proper 1080p monitor. Which for the price he paid is okay, i think...
At $200 a 4K TV is about as good as a cheap/average smallish 1080p monitor, but it's big. And I say this as someone who owns one. You don't get something for nothing and people who think they do just don't understand what they lost.
Looks nice for the price, but I'm holding out for whenever ~32" UHD >120Hz monitors with HDMI 2.1 start arriving. Not a single one on the market yet, which is a damn shame. I would want one to get a good experience out of the new consoles from day 1, but my guess would be 6-12 months from the consoles launch till monitors like these start arriving. A damn shame really. Could of course buy an LG CX 48" OLED, but that's way too big for a desk.
Not ignoring, just skipping it due to the added cost (newer controllers are more expensive and require more work to integrate vs. a familiar older chip). Monitor makers tend to choose the lowest end interface that is still suitable for the resolution and refresh rate desired, and unlike UHD120 you don't _need_ HDMI 2.1 for 21:9 1440p144, sadly. The bad part is that this also means you miss out on all the other features of HDMI 2.1. But given how conservative monitor makers tend to be I doubt we'll see a wide selection of 2.1 monitors for at least another year.
First of all this panel has poor contrast for a VA, around 800:1 in real use. Which in _real use_ is a problem only to watch movies. It is employed on a few other displays which are also pretty cheap between 450 and 600€. That said they are a very good value, particularly for gaming.
IPS is a trademark of LG, and VA is the cheaper alternative to IPS, it's similar in quality while cheaper, just has lower response rates which are starting to catch up (seen quite a few monitors with 4ms rates).
I had to laugh when i saw the first (marketing) picture in this article. A curved gaming monitor is exactly the wrong tool for looking at graphs as all lines are curved too. Also one look at a spreadsheet (or anything with many horizontal lines) reveals the downside of the curved panel.
I am more amused by the brush there amongst the pencils. Isn't it a bit small for brushing the cookie crumbs from the keyboard and desk? Just so you know, i have a 4 incher in my pen cup. Cleaning my desk with just a few sweeps...
Hey i bought this in india after review this post from furper online store, it's one of the best in quality https://www.furper.com/collections/gaming/products... this is indian store they don't ship from china, they have stock in india.
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Freeb!rd - Friday, July 17, 2020 - link
Sorry, ordered my Viotek GNV34DBE two weeks ago for $429 at Amazon.com. Looks like it is out of stock again at Newegg & Walmart. Viotek monitor got good reviews all over including Toms Hardware.Andrei Frumusanu - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
That's literally the same Samsung panel.close - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
Does anyone make something like a 32" 4k, non curved monitor with similar characteristics and price (or close to)? Almost everything I find recommended in reviews that's not ultra wide gets close to 800E.hemedans - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13408/lg-unveils-32...not 144hz though.
close - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
Thanks, was actually considering this or the Benq EW3270U (which unfortunately has no height adjustment). 144Hz is pretty low on my wish list.imaheadcase - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
4k monitors are at a "breakthrough" point right now, lots of good ones, but none are perfect yet. Mostly held back from all the panels being silly 27 inch ones for some reason.Pretty much everyone is waiting on a 4k, 144Hz, IPS, 32+inch around $800-1000. Right now its "gaming" monitors, or pro level that don't offer high Hz.
close - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
I'm of two minds regarding IPS vs. VA. I really like the superior contrast of VA, I like the better viewing angles of the IPS. Don't care that much about the color as long as the reproduction is decent. I currently use a PLS screen (so basically a slightly improved IPS) with 100% sRGB (after calibration). 95% DCI-P3 or 125% sRGB would likely be an improvement even with a VA panel. Also 144Hz is nice but I don't care to pay for it.My biggest issue is that if I want some "minor" amenities on a decent 400E monitor (like height adjustment) the price instantly doubles because they bundle a lot of other stuff I don't particularly care about. I.e. adjustable height only for the model with IPS panel, some "fancier" speakers, and a remote control.
dotjaz - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
I wouldn't call PLS an improvement over any current IPS technology. It might be better than the original IPS and cheaper to produce than, say, AH-IPS, but it's definitely not better than AH-IPS etc.close - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link
@dotjaz, you just discovered that defining the quality of a product based on a specific technology name that evolves over the years is useless. You can very well have a shitty IPS or a good VA panel. Hence I do not care about "IPS" since IPS can be worse than IPS. That's exactly why I think I can live just fine with a VA panel.As long as I'm not shopping for the best I'm just trading off one thing for another. A modern good VA panel can be better than a few years old IPS panel. Also law of diminishing returns and all that...
@Foeketijn, I also have a 43" 4K panel and toyed around with quite a few others. I found the quality always substantially worse than a good 27" and below panel. Colors, contrast, ghosting, they all seemed to be worse enough that I find myself not using it for anything other than media. Maybe newer models got better.
Freeb!rd - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link
You are better off getting a decent adjustable tilt/swivel gas powered arm. I only paid $50 for one for my Viotek 34" monitor and it works great. Unfortunately, I just looked on Amazon and the price is now $20 more!?! I just ordered it on 7/4/2020. Here is the model I bought and like i said works like a charm. I use the wire cable hole on my desk as the mount option, it can also use a desk clamp.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DQYT25/ref=p...
close - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
@Freeb!rd, I was thinking more like an adjustable stand that doesn't require any clamping or drilling through the table (so just like a regular monitor stand). That does add to the price of the monitor since stands for larger diagonals tend to be more expensive.This is why I wish manufacturers would charge $30-50 more and just build the adjustable stand into the monitor, instead of strapping them with the cheapest option possible and putting the adjustable stand only on the premium models.
Foeketijn - Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - link
I have some 43" Philips 4k panel. 60Hz is enough for the girls I go out with. I'm not that productive I lose my mouse pointer at 60Hz.Geek4Life2020 - Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - link
This monitor was selling for a while and even ships from local US warehouse on some online stores, but now seems like the price dropped a lot- I see it's selling just under 390€ now at USA warehouse:https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mmmRcmbR8K
timecop1818 - Friday, July 17, 2020 - link
300 cd/m - NONot 4K - NO
32" - Too big, NO.
8bit panel, shitty edge-lit WLED backlight - NO
Where the fuck are 24"-27" 4K monitors with full-gamut backlight, DisplayPort 1.4 input, 10bit (or at least 8+2FRC) panel and 400+ brightness?
Where the fuck are
p1esk - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
PG27UQ. If you can afford it.Saif9696 - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
My lg uk650 has all you the pointsIPS 27 4k
Cd/m 400
10 bit 8+2 FRC
1 DP and 2 HDMI
Freesync and gsync but on 60 hertz
Saif9696 - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
And HDR 10 too 😊timecop1818 - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
Nope. WLED backlight. DisplayPort 1.2 only. I mean this is probably better than dell UP2414Q with *modern* tech but I would still prefer wide gamut backlight to wled.timecop1818 - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
Don't need 144Hz. The rest of the specs look OK, but I *really* don't need 144Hz. Or that disgusting "gamer" branding.yannigr2 - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
27'' monitor? What is this? The 80s?32'' is the minimum.
timecop1818 - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
I would prefer it to be 24", unfortunately nobody makes 24" panels anymore.32" is huge and not productive.
TheWereCat - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
What does productivity has to do with screen size???I have 3x 1440, two of which are 32" and one is 27" 165Hz, wish all of them were 32".
PeachNCream - Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - link
Obviously people with 32" screens are less productive because they can watch more YouTube videos instead of working - somehow. I don't know, it's timecop who has trouble typing more than thirty words in sequence without inserting pointless profanity that he thinks presents him in a certain manner to the rest of us.Spunjji - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link
I have a 4K 24" monitor and it's bloody great. It's an Acer and it cost me sod-all. Unfortunately it's only 60Hz :/Spunjji - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link
I really don't want a television on my desk. 27" is already large enough that I have to do a lot of eye movement to pick up all sides of the screen. At 32" I'd just be pushing the screen further back to avoid having to move my head around, at which point, well, why not 27"...iblizt - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
Do you really want 400 nits ?200 nits indoor is already very bright even with sunlight through the windows as main light source of the room. I usually calibrate my display to 160 nits for daytime use as my desk is right next to the window.
RSAUser - Wednesday, July 29, 2020 - link
Definitely if you have morning glare on the screen. Monitor I'm typing on goes up to 450 nits max, 400 nits typical, and it was quite a nice improvement over my 400 nits peak/350 nits typical just before it.Outside of that morning window, its set to 70%, then at night down to 20%. I'd rather have it be able to go lower than no option.
Note I have it so high as I code with a dark IDE, if light theme I wouldn't need it.
nagi603 - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
I wish it had IPS panel... and I wonder if HDR and Freesync can be turned on at the same time.Valantar - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
HDR? What HDR?YepSucka - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
have fun with your overpriced small crap, i got a 43inch tv for 200 bucks thats 2 and a half feet from my head as a monitor and i couldnt be happier, when i build a new computer when new ryzens come out (my first, super excited), i have a 43inch 4k tv also for 200, to replace my 1080p one, the PPI might be lower than a monitor but it still looks good, and i dont think the difference is worth the price difference, you cant get a 43inch monitor for less than 500olafgarten - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
The issue with TVs is that they usually have much lower accuracy and a much higher input lag.Valantar - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
And much worse image processing, poor text rendering, etc, etc. There are definitely TVs out there that can work great as huge monitors, but a $200 TV ain't that. I would expect a smeary image, poor colors, screen door effect from the huge pixel pitch, terrible input lag, and a generally poor experience from any TV in that price range. Decent enough for TV content or at 3 meters viewing distance, but nowhere near acceptable for monitor usage.MrVibrato - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
> I would expect a smeary image, poor colors, screen door effect from the huge pixel pitch [...]That's probably why he's going for a 4K TV -- to finally get an image quality that's roughly on par with a proper 1080p monitor. Which for the price he paid is okay, i think...
close - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
At $200 a 4K TV is about as good as a cheap/average smallish 1080p monitor, but it's big. And I say this as someone who owns one. You don't get something for nothing and people who think they do just don't understand what they lost.Valantar - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
Looks nice for the price, but I'm holding out for whenever ~32" UHD >120Hz monitors with HDMI 2.1 start arriving. Not a single one on the market yet, which is a damn shame. I would want one to get a good experience out of the new consoles from day 1, but my guess would be 6-12 months from the consoles launch till monitors like these start arriving. A damn shame really. Could of course buy an LG CX 48" OLED, but that's way too big for a desk.supdawgwtfd - Thursday, July 23, 2020 - link
Lol. Thinking the new consoles would be able to push 4k native above 60hz...Sure on simple looking games which will look that same at 720p...
Vitor - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
Incredible how pc monitos try so hard to ignore hdmi 2.1.Such a good standard with incredible bandwith.
Valantar - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
Not ignoring, just skipping it due to the added cost (newer controllers are more expensive and require more work to integrate vs. a familiar older chip). Monitor makers tend to choose the lowest end interface that is still suitable for the resolution and refresh rate desired, and unlike UHD120 you don't _need_ HDMI 2.1 for 21:9 1440p144, sadly. The bad part is that this also means you miss out on all the other features of HDMI 2.1. But given how conservative monitor makers tend to be I doubt we'll see a wide selection of 2.1 monitors for at least another year.TelstarTOS - Saturday, July 18, 2020 - link
First of all this panel has poor contrast for a VA, around 800:1 in real use. Which in _real use_ is a problem only to watch movies.It is employed on a few other displays which are also pretty cheap between 450 and 600€.
That said they are a very good value, particularly for gaming.
Hxx - Sunday, July 19, 2020 - link
another VA panel. I wish they would start with a cheaper IPS option to compete with the gaming models LG has been coming out with.RSAUser - Wednesday, July 29, 2020 - link
IPS is a trademark of LG, and VA is the cheaper alternative to IPS, it's similar in quality while cheaper, just has lower response rates which are starting to catch up (seen quite a few monitors with 4ms rates).derstef - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
I had to laugh when i saw the first (marketing) picture in this article.A curved gaming monitor is exactly the wrong tool for looking at graphs as all lines are curved too.
Also one look at a spreadsheet (or anything with many horizontal lines) reveals the downside of the curved panel.
hehatemeXX - Monday, July 20, 2020 - link
Huh? I have been using a Samsung 34 inch curve for two years now. Nothing wrong with spreadsheets.MrVibrato - Tuesday, July 21, 2020 - link
I am more amused by the brush there amongst the pencils. Isn't it a bit small for brushing the cookie crumbs from the keyboard and desk? Just so you know, i have a 4 incher in my pen cup. Cleaning my desk with just a few sweeps...Harshit.jain1991 - Wednesday, August 5, 2020 - link
Hey i bought this in india after review this post from furper online store, it's one of the best in quality https://www.furper.com/collections/gaming/products...this is indian store they don't ship from china, they have stock in india.
kallan - Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - link
How to connect the monitor to the laptop, which has only on board graphics card and with one HDMI out?Do we need an additional graphics card for the laptop?
kaippally - Monday, September 21, 2020 - link
The Maximum refresh possible on this screen is 60Hz. I could never get 144Hz on this thing. I have Nvidia Geforce GTX