>For those still in the AGP camp, DFI also had the nForce3 250 socket 939 LanParty on display, but not in final PCB.
Well, that is depressing, "not in final PCB?" I figure that means it's at least another moneht before I'll ever see it. I was really trying hard to wait for this board for my 939/AGP build, but everyone else may be talking about the "Athlon 128" before it finally materializes! :)
I don't want SLI either, but the second x16 slot will work as a x1 in "single graphics-card mode", so you don't lose anything by going for the SLI capable board. The Asus SLI board effectively gives you three PCIe x1 slots then.
It's probably worth holding off just slightly longer anyway because AMD's E0 revision A64 cores should be out soon, which as well as the SSE3 instructions, are expected to be manufactured using the latest strained-silicon process which further reduces power-consumption and increases overclocking potential.
#5. No, actually, there are two of us. Any word on when the A8N-E Premium will be available? This board looks perfect for the HTPC community, with the low profile chipset passive cooler.
#15
If it's what I am assuming they are talking about, is that there is no need for a bearing surface since the whole fan housing is suspended in a magnetic field... Sure all other case fans are turned by an alternating magnetic field, but they are also not suspended by that same (maybe?) field. This would greatly reduce friction and cut down noise. It would be nice to see a diagram of this to know what they are specifically talking about. Sounds exactly what #16 said... Using MagLev technology (just on a smaller scale).
Hehe, I take my (virtual) hat off to DFI's marketing division for coming up with that magnetic-field nonsense. All fans regardless of their bearings effectively spin in a magnetic-field, that's what is making them spin.
Its strange that when they say it "reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation", that they don't include the first thing someone might notice about a chipset fan-- noise. Instead they claim the fan operates more efficiently without any proof.
Don't get me wrong, I may buy a DFI mobo when I build my nForce4 box, but marketing bull like this really turns me off.
"the Fatal1ty AN8, based on the same nF4 ultra chipset, but geared toward top gaming with a price of over $300"
Did I read that correctly??? ABit will be coming out with a motherboard that retails for THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS?? Umm.........yeah. What does it do besides make the most fantastic cup of Columbian coffee and amazing brownies?? I'm no cheapskate, by any means, but ya gotta be kiddin' me. That's some serious coin for a board.
#11 and #12 - We asked DFI your questions and they are answered in the Press release:
"both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation."
We have also corrected the description to the more accurate "Magnetic Levitation".
"More please," about the new MicroATX IGP releases using ATI chipsets. We have a number of desktops using the ASUS A7N266-VM/AA that we may want to upgrade.
Holy voltages batman! DFI for the win. I can't believe their nf3 board still isn't in final production yet, but their nf4 board is. I don't need PCI express. I've already got a softmodded and highly overclockable 6800NU. I can't get a $200 PCI-e card that will be anywhere near as good.
#3 - We have a DFI SLI on the way and we will post a First Look as soon as we get our hands on the board. DFI assures us you will be able to buy the board by the end of January.
#4 and #5 - Maybe the best indication that the nForce4 are starting to hit the market in volume is that we just received nForce4 boards for review from both Foxconn and ECS.
$6 - The taxi drivers seem to get ruder each year, and I'm a decent tipper. Anand had the same experience. I have to confess that I did have one taxi driver who was terrific. He must have been left over from '99.
There was a typo in the DFI LanParty section: "for the lowest possible Signal-to-Noise ratio". I think they want the highest possible signal to noise ratio.
Other than that, nice article. Thanks, and I hope to upgrade my computer to an ATI RS480 based rig in the near future
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MarkM - Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - link
>For those still in the AGP camp, DFI also had the nForce3 250 socket 939 LanParty on display, but not in final PCB.Well, that is depressing, "not in final PCB?" I figure that means it's at least another moneht before I'll ever see it. I was really trying hard to wait for this board for my 939/AGP build, but everyone else may be talking about the "Athlon 128" before it finally materializes! :)
PrinceGaz - Friday, January 14, 2005 - link
I don't want SLI either, but the second x16 slot will work as a x1 in "single graphics-card mode", so you don't lose anything by going for the SLI capable board. The Asus SLI board effectively gives you three PCIe x1 slots then.It's probably worth holding off just slightly longer anyway because AMD's E0 revision A64 cores should be out soon, which as well as the SSE3 instructions, are expected to be manufactured using the latest strained-silicon process which further reduces power-consumption and increases overclocking potential.
sophus - Friday, January 14, 2005 - link
#5 I'm TRYING to wait for nforce4 non-SLI also.but only the gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 is available for about $150.is it wrong to want AMD + PCIe? late january couldn't come sooner...
I wanted a nice SLI rig but the initial prices are too steep for my liking.
geogecko - Friday, January 14, 2005 - link
#5. No, actually, there are two of us. Any word on when the A8N-E Premium will be available? This board looks perfect for the HTPC community, with the low profile chipset passive cooler.Where is it ASUS???
smn198 - Friday, January 14, 2005 - link
What do you think the chances are that once we have dual core, we will get 939 dual socket boards? I'd be interested!Swaid - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
#15If it's what I am assuming they are talking about, is that there is no need for a bearing surface since the whole fan housing is suspended in a magnetic field... Sure all other case fans are turned by an alternating magnetic field, but they are also not suspended by that same (maybe?) field. This would greatly reduce friction and cut down noise. It would be nice to see a diagram of this to know what they are specifically talking about. Sounds exactly what #16 said... Using MagLev technology (just on a smaller scale).
Decel - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Actually, I believe that they're using MagLev..PrinceGaz - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Hehe, I take my (virtual) hat off to DFI's marketing division for coming up with that magnetic-field nonsense. All fans regardless of their bearings effectively spin in a magnetic-field, that's what is making them spin.Its strange that when they say it "reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation", that they don't include the first thing someone might notice about a chipset fan-- noise. Instead they claim the fan operates more efficiently without any proof.
Don't get me wrong, I may buy a DFI mobo when I build my nForce4 box, but marketing bull like this really turns me off.
Momental - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
"the Fatal1ty AN8, based on the same nF4 ultra chipset, but geared toward top gaming with a price of over $300"Did I read that correctly??? ABit will be coming out with a motherboard that retails for THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS?? Umm.........yeah. What does it do besides make the most fantastic cup of Columbian coffee and amazing brownies?? I'm no cheapskate, by any means, but ya gotta be kiddin' me. That's some serious coin for a board.
Wesley Fink - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
#11 and #12 - We asked DFI your questions and they are answered in the Press release:"both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation."
We have also corrected the description to the more accurate "Magnetic Levitation".
SlinkyDink - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
"The single-chip nF4 is cooled by a new super low noise, long-life magnetic induction fan."Is "magnetic induction" just a fancy way to say typical? Isnt all ordinary fans powered by magnetic motors?
gordon151 - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Aren't they afraid that motherboard will fall =/?shinotenshi - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Hey wesley dont forget to test the thermalright xp-120 on the dfi-sli motherboard when you get it in for testingbupkus - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
"More please," about the new MicroATX IGP releases using ATI chipsets. We have a number of desktops using the ASUS A7N266-VM/AA that we may want to upgrade.Avalon - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Holy voltages batman! DFI for the win. I can't believe their nf3 board still isn't in final production yet, but their nf4 board is. I don't need PCI express. I've already got a softmodded and highly overclockable 6800NU. I can't get a $200 PCI-e card that will be anywhere near as good.:(
Wesley Fink - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
#3 - We have a DFI SLI on the way and we will post a First Look as soon as we get our hands on the board. DFI assures us you will be able to buy the board by the end of January.#4 and #5 - Maybe the best indication that the nForce4 are starting to hit the market in volume is that we just received nForce4 boards for review from both Foxconn and ECS.
$6 - The taxi drivers seem to get ruder each year, and I'm a decent tipper. Anand had the same experience. I have to confess that I did have one taxi driver who was terrific. He must have been left over from '99.
Filibuster - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
>DFI will own the enthusiast market in very near future.I knew DFI has been coming along well lately but when I read your comment I sort of laughed until I read the article.
Hot damn DFI! That SLI board looks great.
>Damn this was lame. Am I the only one waiting for an Nforce4 939 board without the SLI from Asus?
I found it interesting that the Vegas taxi drivers are rude now. In 99 for Comdex they were all really great to me.
Oh... Asus?
Sammy911 - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Damn this was lame. Am I the only one waiting for an Nforce4 939 board without the SLI from Asus?Zebo - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
"For those still in the AGP camp, DFI also had the nForce3 250 socket 939 LanParty on display, but not in final PCB. "Forgot. ANAND pics please.. I've been though 4, yes four, 939 boards waiting for this!!!!
Zebo - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
DFI yummy:)DFI will own the enthusiast market in very near future.
4V vdimm OMG!! 2.1 Vcore ROTF all you preteners and so called "tier one" board makers better take notice.
Calin - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
There was a typo in the DFI LanParty section: "for the lowest possible Signal-to-Noise ratio". I think they want the highest possible signal to noise ratio.Other than that, nice article. Thanks, and I hope to upgrade my computer to an ATI RS480 based rig in the near future
Calin
RadeonGuy - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link
Cant Wait for the ATI 939 chipset to upgrade my socket 754