fazalmajid - My newer 2018 Spectre 13 has two USB-C's, and one USB-A. I'm grateful for the USB-A port, and really would hope to have one on any laptop I purchased in the near future. There are still a lot of devices that utilize USB-A as the standard, and I'd prefer to minimize having to use a hub.
It’s about time. USB-C is 5 years old now. By 2003 USB-A was ubiquitous, 5 years after the original iMac dropped all legacy ports for USB-A. USB-C, particularly equipped with TB-3 is just better overall.
Higher specs yes, but I worry about the durability of a port like that. Say I keep an external drive attached 24-7, I'd be concerned about the reliability in the long term. It's fine if the port on a charger breaks, I'll get a new one, but if one on my PC breaks, it's a big inconvenience.
IMO it's because of that need for it to be "universal", so more heavy duty functions are being added than what's reasonable for its physical parameters which are designed to fit in the most compact devices.
Hopefully their new cooling system actually touches the VRMs this time. The 9570 has been an excellent laptop... once hard and soft mods are applied to fix thermal throttling.
I have a Dell Precision XPS 15, and the main problem is the horrific throttling (like the old Macbook Pro). It can not run the GPU and 6 core Intel CPU properly. I REALLY hope they fixed it this time, like the 16" Macbook Pro. Would make the laptop so much better if they improve the cooling.
Yes, they are not in the same market segment, but the only real difference is the graphics card. If you need a good graphics card and you insist on using laptop, you might be better off buying an external GPU enclosure. I'm using my LG Gram 17 with Razer Core and 2060 Super to drive my two 4k/144Hz monitors. If I cared about gaming (I don't) I'd probably get 2080Ti card, but I'd still keep LG Gram because it's so light when I need to travel with it.
The Gram 17 is great! I just wish it didn’t have a numeric keypad, I keep activating it accidentally because there is no separation from the main keyboard unlike on a regular keyboard.
Have you tried lugging around an external GPU enclosure? That's going to take up a significant amount of your luggage space and be hefty. Not to mention the hassle of even more wires when you get to your location. And all that for a significant drop in performance.
That's not to say that there aren't people for whom taking around an external GPU works and who like it, or even need it. It's just that's probably one of the most niche markets out there.
The drop in performance especially, nobody who's done their research would put a 2080Ti in an enclosure for gaming. It would be hardly faster than a 2070.
Dell is making a lot of good decisions lately, and I love the 16:10 switch. I'd be perfectly happy with this as a MBP 16 alternative I suspect. Retaining the upgradable RAM and storage after the redesign is a sweet bonus too.
16:10 is by far better than 16:9. 16:10 has 5.1% more screen area for the same diagonal size. And it is more screen in the most valuable spot to drastically reduce scrolling.
But, I'd still like even more vertical screen space. Good start Dell, but next time I want MOAR.
As a heavy LR user I prefer 16:10 over 3:2, because most photos generated from ILCs are 3:2 and you need significant width (far more than the extra height) for the interface
Portrait might need to wait for a back port of LR Android's function back to LR Classic, the one that puts the interface at the bottom in portrait mode, then use a Windows 2-in-1 that supports portrait orientation.
Maybe because motherboard design for a new chip takes time? Dell probably had the designs started before Ryzen 4000 was even available for manufacturers. Either that or they didn't want to rock the boat too much yet; release a few models based on Ryzen and see how they perform in terms of sales. Remember, the name Ryzen is still not nearly as ubiquitous as Intel in the laptop space, especially for non-techies that don't follow tech news
I too am disappointed in the sense that one of these with Ryzen would arguably be faster and cooler, but I'm in agreement with the other replies - it's not likely it was possible during the design phase.
I'm more disappointed in the RTX 2060 than anything else. It was terrible value for money when it launched, and it's (hopefully) going to be superseded before too long. 1660Ti would have been a better match from the current crop.
Agreed. I don't think the extra 1-2mm of thickness (presumably) required to accommodate at least 1 USB-A port would have significant implications on portability.
I don't think it would have needed even that. They've sloped the edges steeply, but the actual thickness of the device is more than sufficient for a standard USB-A port. Disappointing.
Timing is everything... It's a shame that the XPS 17 won't be out until summer. The speakers on the new 16" MacBook Pro are really, really good, and today I find myself working exclusively in Teams meetings. I can't wait until Summer.
My XPS13 2-in-1's speakers are also far better than any of my previous laptops, but in comparison to my SRS-X9, sufficiently loud(for personal use in front of a desk, not to fill a bedroom, still), incomparably tinny...I decided to continue using my X9 whenever possible.
Answering my own question, it appears Dell has been making an out of spec 6.5A@20V charger for a while. The USB-C cable appears permanently attached to the brick - while that would normally be a downside - it is presumably needed to make sure a standard cable with too thin wires isn't used.
The horrible pile of hacks that USB cables use to indicate their maximum current level would be a major problem for this. To keep everything as cheap as possible they put a resistor of a given level on one of the pins. X Ohms for 3A, Y Ohms for 5A. If Dell's proprietary not-quite-USB-C cable returned Z amps to signal to the dell brick that it could carry 6.5A, anything standard compliant high power charger would see the wrong value and refuse to use 5A mode. I'm not sure if all C cables have to be able to carry 3A and it would fall back to only being a 60W cable, or if it'd have to fall all the way back to the even lower current levels of USB A/B cables.
Dell would also be opening itself up for complaints from uninformed users (AKA 99.99...% of people on the internet); that they were deliberately crippling performance with 3rd party cables to force people to buy their own over-priced model.
The proper thing to have done would have been to either make a dual-plug cable for >100W charging or to convince the USB standards group to add a higher power charging mode to the standard so that anyone could make a 6.5A (or higher) cable and charger.
Dual plug takes...dual sockets, the extra socket might have been useful otherwise. I see that being reasonable for wattage approaching 200W, but for <150W it doesn't make that much sense. ...unless you mean a hybrid plug in which the second plug is not a standard C and doesn't pass data either, like ROGP2's second C port that supports proprietary accessories using a hybrid plug but still takes a standard C.
This could be solved by having power management push a notification reminding the user that it's using an insufficient cable, like how slow USB cables trigger a notification in Windows.
Glad to see some larger laptops get aspect ratios <= 1.6:1!
Edit suggestion: on the specs table there is a typo in the contrast ratio for both 3840x2400 panels. It reads "1600L1", which is probably hitting the L instead of "shift + ;".
Thanks for the overview! It is also exciting to see a major manufacturer making a 500-nit capable display.
If the difference is big enough it's warranted. I explicitly refused to buy regular XPS13 refurbs (which were everywhere, and cheaper) compared to the 2-in-1s(the 1065G7/16GB variants were rare) because the former came with Comet Lake and the latter with Ice Lake, and I wanted the integrated graphics that were finally a notable improvement in many generations.
No, it's the best decision ever. Moving body left of center is an ergonomic nightmare and so awkward. If you are doing non stop number input and didn't learn to type with number row, then I could see the benefit. In that case, you want a dedicated numpad connected externally with mechanical keys if you are that fast.
A single NVME SSD slot, limiting us to 2TB of storage, is NOT sufficient, and that alone rules out these systems for me—unless the XPS 17 has that and it's just not here mentioned!
It might sound like a small thing (just ask any Apple User) but did you try using a Workstation day in / day out without dedicated Page Up and Page Down keys? Come On Dell!! Other than that good work and hurry up and add it to the UK website and configurator.
That's a pretty disappointing selection of ports, especially on the 17. They could absolutely have added more in, as yes I know that it has two Thunderbolt controllers; that doesn't help when someone gives you a USB A device, or only has a HDMI cable.
Astounding how they seem to have managed to keep everything exactly the same between models, except the most superficial pixel density, ports, and battery. It's almost as if the 17 is the 15 through a magnifying glass.
US Dell website has the new XPS 15 for orders. Based on the options, XPS15 can only be configured with I7-10875H. there's no option for the I9. Config table on your article needs to be updated.
Is the 17" with 3840x2400 resolution and 16:10 aspect ratio a good choice for large screen ppv streaming? If yes, which video card option is compatible with 4K streaming services like Vudu?
Youtuber Dave2d remarks that only the 17 inch version has a vapor chamber while the 15 inch has an only an improved version of last year's cooling system
I wonder how well is Linux supported on these laptops. Nvidia GPUs tend to be more annoying than they should be and, for anyone that doesn't do gaming or extensive number crunching on a GPU, the Intel ones are just fine.
And doing heavy number crunching on a laptop is just silly.
I want to buy one of these, but a Premium Laptop with a 14nm CPU , when the same or better performance can be achieved with an Ice Lake "lower end" 10nm CPU running cooler at 15W, just doesn't make sense. They should have gone for the same Ice Lake CPUs on the XPS 13.
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Teckk - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
One of the best laptops out there. So are we beginning to see a complete transition to USB-C in non-Mac laptops?ingwe - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
I'm really excited about that transition. I get there are some messy aspects, but I have an XPS 13 and love one cable docking. Just so simple.fazalmajid - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
My 2016 HP Spectre 13t was all-USB-C.Dizoja86 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
fazalmajid - My newer 2018 Spectre 13 has two USB-C's, and one USB-A. I'm grateful for the USB-A port, and really would hope to have one on any laptop I purchased in the near future. There are still a lot of devices that utilize USB-A as the standard, and I'd prefer to minimize having to use a hub.skavi - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
*in non-Mac laptops people actually buyKPOM - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
It’s about time. USB-C is 5 years old now. By 2003 USB-A was ubiquitous, 5 years after the original iMac dropped all legacy ports for USB-A. USB-C, particularly equipped with TB-3 is just better overall.s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Higher specs yes, but I worry about the durability of a port like that. Say I keep an external drive attached 24-7, I'd be concerned about the reliability in the long term. It's fine if the port on a charger breaks, I'll get a new one, but if one on my PC breaks, it's a big inconvenience.flyingpants265 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
So, what you're saying is.. It's not a good port, and it needs a redesign.s.yu - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
IMO it's because of that need for it to be "universal", so more heavy duty functions are being added than what's reasonable for its physical parameters which are designed to fit in the most compact devices.skavi - Wednesday, May 27, 2020 - link
I'm pretty sure the USB-C design generally rated as more durable than USB-A.willis936 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Hopefully their new cooling system actually touches the VRMs this time. The 9570 has been an excellent laptop... once hard and soft mods are applied to fix thermal throttling.Alistair - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
I have a Dell Precision XPS 15, and the main problem is the horrific throttling (like the old Macbook Pro). It can not run the GPU and 6 core Intel CPU properly. I REALLY hope they fixed it this time, like the 16" Macbook Pro. Would make the laptop so much better if they improve the cooling.Pro-competition - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Hope Dell finally resolves the coil whine issues in the XPS laptops... Consider yourself warned!jseliger2 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
No Linux DE versions, though, it seems.Pro-competition - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
If I were in the market for a portable laptop, I'd get the LG Gram over these Dell XPS though, simply because the LG Grams are so much lighter.Rookierookie - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
They're not in the same market segment. You might as well make the comment for Alienware laptops.p1esk - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Yes, they are not in the same market segment, but the only real difference is the graphics card. If you need a good graphics card and you insist on using laptop, you might be better off buying an external GPU enclosure. I'm using my LG Gram 17 with Razer Core and 2060 Super to drive my two 4k/144Hz monitors. If I cared about gaming (I don't) I'd probably get 2080Ti card, but I'd still keep LG Gram because it's so light when I need to travel with it.fazalmajid - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
The Gram 17 is great! I just wish it didn’t have a numeric keypad, I keep activating it accidentally because there is no separation from the main keyboard unlike on a regular keyboard.Tams80 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Have you tried lugging around an external GPU enclosure? That's going to take up a significant amount of your luggage space and be hefty. Not to mention the hassle of even more wires when you get to your location. And all that for a significant drop in performance.That's not to say that there aren't people for whom taking around an external GPU works and who like it, or even need it. It's just that's probably one of the most niche markets out there.
s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
The drop in performance especially, nobody who's done their research would put a 2080Ti in an enclosure for gaming. It would be hardly faster than a 2070.tipoo - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Dell is making a lot of good decisions lately, and I love the 16:10 switch. I'd be perfectly happy with this as a MBP 16 alternative I suspect. Retaining the upgradable RAM and storage after the redesign is a sweet bonus too.boeush - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
With respect to the screen aspect ratio, I just feel sorry for Satan: clearly, hell gas at last frozen over.dullard - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
16:10 is by far better than 16:9. 16:10 has 5.1% more screen area for the same diagonal size. And it is more screen in the most valuable spot to drastically reduce scrolling.But, I'd still like even more vertical screen space. Good start Dell, but next time I want MOAR.
tipoo - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
I'm pretty happy with this medium. You get more lines of code or whatever else, but even boxier form factors start to get awkward for video.boeush - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
16:10 isn't that different from 3:2 (which would be 15:10)I'd prefer 3:2, personally. But even 16:10 is a blessing, compared to the curse of 16:9 we've all been suffering with for the last ~10 years.
s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
As a heavy LR user I prefer 16:10 over 3:2, because most photos generated from ILCs are 3:2 and you need significant width (far more than the extra height) for the interfaceSpunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
Same here - 16:10 is ideal for Lightroom most of the time. 3:2 is a little better for editing photographs in portrait orientation, though.s.yu - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
Portrait might need to wait for a back port of LR Android's function back to LR Classic, the one that puts the interface at the bottom in portrait mode, then use a Windows 2-in-1 that supports portrait orientation.KPOM - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
16:10 is great. 4:3 is even better.s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Bad for video, and bad for two windows side by side. For a tablet, perhaps, but 16:10 is the best compromise for laptop.Spunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
As someone who games as much as they work, I'd not willingly go back to 4:3 any time soon.Pro-competition - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
The LG Gram also utilises the 16:10 aspect ratio, for the record. I agree the 16:10 makes perfect sense for any screen 27" and smaller.jaju123 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Needs AMD ryzen 4000 series CPUs, but Intel are probably paying Dell off so I doubt that'll ever happen.willis936 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Ever? At the rate Intel is going, they're run out of money in ten years.Retycint - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Maybe because motherboard design for a new chip takes time? Dell probably had the designs started before Ryzen 4000 was even available for manufacturers. Either that or they didn't want to rock the boat too much yet; release a few models based on Ryzen and see how they perform in terms of sales. Remember, the name Ryzen is still not nearly as ubiquitous as Intel in the laptop space, especially for non-techies that don't follow tech newsSpunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
I too am disappointed in the sense that one of these with Ryzen would arguably be faster and cooler, but I'm in agreement with the other replies - it's not likely it was possible during the design phase.I'm more disappointed in the RTX 2060 than anything else. It was terrible value for money when it launched, and it's (hopefully) going to be superseded before too long. 1660Ti would have been a better match from the current crop.
patel21 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Dell could have at least retained full set of ports in XPS17.Retycint - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Agreed. I don't think the extra 1-2mm of thickness (presumably) required to accommodate at least 1 USB-A port would have significant implications on portability.s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Agreed. Just look at VAIO SX's set of ports.Spunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
I don't think it would have needed even that. They've sloped the edges steeply, but the actual thickness of the device is more than sufficient for a standard USB-A port. Disappointing.Spunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
Yup. This setup is absurd.vladx - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
XPS 17 seems great, looks like I found my next notebook.TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Timing is everything... It's a shame that the XPS 17 won't be out until summer. The speakers on the new 16" MacBook Pro are really, really good, and today I find myself working exclusively in Teams meetings. I can't wait until Summer.s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
My XPS13 2-in-1's speakers are also far better than any of my previous laptops, but in comparison to my SRS-X9, sufficiently loud(for personal use in front of a desk, not to fill a bedroom, still), incomparably tinny...I decided to continue using my X9 whenever possible.Dogers - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Does the webcam support Windows Hello this time round? Or is that still on the cutting room floor..Dug - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Good question. I have that on my Surface laptop, and it is one feature that I've grown to appreciate over all others.Spunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
I seem to recall another article mentioning an IR camera, so I'd hope so!JasonPainter - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
XPS17. This is the laptop I have been waiting for. Shut up and take my money!DanNeely - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Does the 130W USB-C charger take 2 ports, or is it breaking the spec which tops out at 100W (5A 20V)?DanNeely - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Answering my own question, it appears Dell has been making an out of spec 6.5A@20V charger for a while. The USB-C cable appears permanently attached to the brick - while that would normally be a downside - it is presumably needed to make sure a standard cable with too thin wires isn't used.https://www.amazon.com/Dell-130W-Type-Adapter-Comp...
s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
The wire probably wouldn't catch fire, the brick and/or the power management would simply refuse to pass more than 100W.DanNeely - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
The horrible pile of hacks that USB cables use to indicate their maximum current level would be a major problem for this. To keep everything as cheap as possible they put a resistor of a given level on one of the pins. X Ohms for 3A, Y Ohms for 5A. If Dell's proprietary not-quite-USB-C cable returned Z amps to signal to the dell brick that it could carry 6.5A, anything standard compliant high power charger would see the wrong value and refuse to use 5A mode. I'm not sure if all C cables have to be able to carry 3A and it would fall back to only being a 60W cable, or if it'd have to fall all the way back to the even lower current levels of USB A/B cables.Dell would also be opening itself up for complaints from uninformed users (AKA 99.99...% of people on the internet); that they were deliberately crippling performance with 3rd party cables to force people to buy their own over-priced model.
The proper thing to have done would have been to either make a dual-plug cable for >100W charging or to convince the USB standards group to add a higher power charging mode to the standard so that anyone could make a 6.5A (or higher) cable and charger.
s.yu - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
Dual plug takes...dual sockets, the extra socket might have been useful otherwise. I see that being reasonable for wattage approaching 200W, but for <150W it doesn't make that much sense....unless you mean a hybrid plug in which the second plug is not a standard C and doesn't pass data either, like ROGP2's second C port that supports proprietary accessories using a hybrid plug but still takes a standard C.
s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
This could be solved by having power management push a notification reminding the user that it's using an insufficient cable, like how slow USB cables trigger a notification in Windows.tk.icepick - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Glad to see some larger laptops get aspect ratios <= 1.6:1!Edit suggestion: on the specs table there is a typo in the contrast ratio for both 3840x2400 panels. It reads "1600L1", which is probably hitting the L instead of "shift + ;".
Thanks for the overview! It is also exciting to see a major manufacturer making a 500-nit capable display.
scineram - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Not Renoir, not interesting.TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Buying a laptop solely for the CPU is an interesting bit of AMD fanaticism.Tams80 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Yet people often say vote with your wallet so...And so what if they don't find it interesting? That's their choice.
Rookierookie - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
You know for a fact that they'll find an excuse to not buy an AMD laptop when one is actually available.Retycint - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Well, not if the AMD CPU performs better and draws less power. I don't think it can be considered "fanatism" when consumers demand a superior products.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
If the difference is big enough it's warranted. I explicitly refused to buy regular XPS13 refurbs (which were everywhere, and cheaper) compared to the 2-in-1s(the 1065G7/16GB variants were rare) because the former came with Comet Lake and the latter with Ice Lake, and I wanted the integrated graphics that were finally a notable improvement in many generations.Spunjji - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link
Maybe. It would be a better device with Renoir, though.cyrusfox - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Am I the only one that thinks its a crime to skip out on the 10 key with a 17" XPS.Guess so if they are keeping it out
JasonPainter - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
No I personally love that they left it out. I don't want the keyboard to be left-justified in order to get the number pad.Dug - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
No, it's the best decision ever. Moving body left of center is an ergonomic nightmare and so awkward. If you are doing non stop number input and didn't learn to type with number row, then I could see the benefit. In that case, you want a dedicated numpad connected externally with mechanical keys if you are that fast.ads295 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Came here just to say this. Not having a number pad is almost silly on a laptop of this size.RSAUser - Thursday, May 21, 2020 - link
I can't get the XPS due to the lack of numpad, I use it every day for work.patel21 - Friday, May 22, 2020 - link
No, But its indeed a crime to gimp the PageUp/Down Keys.thuckabay - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
A single NVME SSD slot, limiting us to 2TB of storage, is NOT sufficient, and that alone rules out these systems for me—unless the XPS 17 has that and it's just not here mentioned!TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
It has two..mrvco - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
XPS 11 or bust!amouses - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
It might sound like a small thing (just ask any Apple User) but did you try using a Workstation day in / day out without dedicated Page Up and Page Down keys? Come On Dell!! Other than that good work and hurry up and add it to the UK website and configurator.Dug - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
Yay for better aspect ratio!!!!I was worried they weren't going to do this.
Tams80 - Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - link
That's a pretty disappointing selection of ports, especially on the 17. They could absolutely have added more in, as yes I know that it has two Thunderbolt controllers; that doesn't help when someone gives you a USB A device, or only has a HDMI cable.And some AMD options would have been nice.
Cliff34 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
I thought vapour cooling is only for xps 17, not 15.s.yu - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Astounding how they seem to have managed to keep everything exactly the same between models, except the most superficial pixel density, ports, and battery. It's almost as if the 17 is the 15 through a magnifying glass.dudde92 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
US Dell website has the new XPS 15 for orders. Based on the options, XPS15 can only be configured with I7-10875H. there's no option for the I9. Config table on your article needs to be updated.Ximon - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Is the 17" with 3840x2400 resolution and 16:10 aspect ratio a good choice for large screen ppv streaming? If yes, which video card option is compatible with 4K streaming services like Vudu?coolrock2008 - Thursday, May 14, 2020 - link
Youtuber Dave2d remarks that only the 17 inch version has a vapor chamber while the 15 inch has an only an improved version of last year's cooling systemEne_Jahkhin - Saturday, May 16, 2020 - link
Those wallpapers on the laptops are so fine.Nice features tho
Ene_Jahkhin - Saturday, May 16, 2020 - link
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Nice features.
rbanffy - Thursday, May 21, 2020 - link
I wonder how well is Linux supported on these laptops. Nvidia GPUs tend to be more annoying than they should be and, for anyone that doesn't do gaming or extensive number crunching on a GPU, the Intel ones are just fine.And doing heavy number crunching on a laptop is just silly.
betoVA - Friday, May 29, 2020 - link
I want to buy one of these, but a Premium Laptop with a 14nm CPU , when the same or better performance can be achieved with an Ice Lake "lower end" 10nm CPU running cooler at 15W, just doesn't make sense.They should have gone for the same Ice Lake CPUs on the XPS 13.