Lol at that price, i paid $610 usd for a new s20 snapdragon straight from samsung when they had in on sale last month, not sure what lg is thinking with that price with a midrange soc.
No you didn't, Samsung sold it for $799 on sale. But anyways, Samsung should be selling for $750 or less, and LG should be pricing this at $600 or less. Both bad buys. Low powered phones for high prices.
Since when can you forget to include the trade-in in the price? What kind of comparison is that? You "paid" $750 USD on it. If you get it as a present will you say you could get one for free?
its too expensive at this price point. Design is otherwise good. I hope LG updates camera module to use IMX700 and use Snapdragon 875 next time around.
It seems like the only thing(s) this has going for it are the design and headphone jack. Outside of that, mid tier internal specs, lacking camera setup, and the display is average even without factoring in the P in P-OLED, I've heard very little good about it. Velvet pro doesn't roll off the tongue, but that's what would make this LG launch less lacklustre.
Design? You must be blind. Rear camera now has a bump, this used to be flush in the body. Sides are too narrow, making it structurally weaker, slippery, and less comfortable to hold. The screen is now curved, LG was one of the few that resisted this trend. And what is up with the weird aspect ratio AND notch?
The last best phone LG made? The G2 was good, but the G6 was great in 2016 at half-price when LG made the firesale. The LG G5 was actually IP66 water resistant AND had a User Removable battery. For the past 2 years the LG V30 had been on discount too. And the LG V20 was The Last Android Phone which had a removable battery.
If you want something that isn't fragile, the design of the Samsung S6 Active is preferable. Or if you want longevity, then a removable battery like that of the Samsung Note 4 is ideal. For regular use, the design or concepts found in the Sony XZ1, Alcatel Idol 4S, and ZTE Axon7 are great.
The G5 was inferior to the G3. Same size, but smaller screen. Just crap. I sold it immediately. Terrible battery life. I believe it was also factory defective, like most LG phones. It was also hollow, which is completely insane. the screen would flex and make a hollow noise when you tapped on it.
I like my G6, mostly because I paid $40 for it, but it's quite slow, and the screen size is again too small.
Sorry, I meant that as the LG G5 was never officially endorsed for water resistance.
However, I've seen and heard plenty of owners who accidentally dropped them in the pool etc and the phone kept working no problems. I was surprised with this finding, especially since the battery is still User Removable. Sort of like the Samsung S5, but that was mostly just "splash proof" and not really resistant. The LG G5 was not quite "waterproof" like the IP67 devices, but moreso like an IP66 level of "water resistance". It was a shame the other issues of the LG G5 like it's marketing, pricing, bootlooping, poor camera, poor display, and QC issues hampered what seemed to be a good phone in the concept.
The old Samsung Galaxy S6 was similar to the G5, in that, it was never officially water resistant, but secretly it was built with ingress protection in mind. It is roughly an IP67 waterproof, similar to the iPhone 7's level. Of course, there's a difference between low-IP67, current IP68, and IP69K pressured-water resistance.
It is a shame that phones CANNOT last long anymore. OLED screens produce burn-in, and Sealed Batteries mean issues for owners. I'm not so sure the trade-offs were worth it. There's plenty of users still clinging to their Samsung Note 4's and LG V20's, switching microSD cards, replaceable batteries, and using Custom Roms.
LG made good phones. They priced them crazy but they were complete and packed with feature that actually matter. Not this. The only niche this phone serves is those who want to buy a big brand product (in general perception), display/weight ratio, a 'hopefully big battery life' and design aesthetics over anything else. Very Velvet indeed. A product made for the show show crowd with no substance. As a technology lover, I am very disappointed.
If you want a better camera system, faster sharper display, better battery life, processor, 5G etc you go for a S20 or OP8Pro. If you want an LG, you go for the older V50 or G8 on discount that have a faster processor and ESS DAC (The only real reason people buy LG). Weight, design? Those are comparably light and better. Is the notch that big a deal breaker? And if you really want the latest (As that matters with tiny improvements), LG and 5G, just pull out $100 more and get a V60.
LG declared they will change their strategy and this is the resultant product. People who have never bought an LG won't really care but the existing fanbase of LG will be disappointed. And I personally don't think they'll be getting any new fans unless they thin those profit margins a bit more.
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shabby - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
Lol at that price, i paid $610 usd for a new s20 snapdragon straight from samsung when they had in on sale last month, not sure what lg is thinking with that price with a midrange soc.Alistair - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
No you didn't, Samsung sold it for $799 on sale. But anyways, Samsung should be selling for $750 or less, and LG should be pricing this at $600 or less. Both bad buys. Low powered phones for high prices.Alistair - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
Pretty sure LG and Samsung will announce record low sales this year, and it won't be because of Covid19.shabby - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
In Canada there was a 20% discount and $200 junk phone trade in.So $1300 - 20% = 1040 - 200 = $840 cad, that's around $600 usd
close - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Since when can you forget to include the trade-in in the price? What kind of comparison is that? You "paid" $750 USD on it. If you get it as a present will you say you could get one for free?shabby - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️shabby - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
I traded in a useless broken flip phone.Alistair - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Yeah it's a weird thing Samsung does, basically admitting they charge too much in Canada in particular. $200 off for any old broken device.shabby - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Yup, either you get samsung Bud's in the first month for free or $200 off the second month with any trade in.trivik12 - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
its too expensive at this price point. Design is otherwise good. I hope LG updates camera module to use IMX700 and use Snapdragon 875 next time around.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
It seems like the only thing(s) this has going for it are the design and headphone jack. Outside of that, mid tier internal specs, lacking camera setup, and the display is average even without factoring in the P in P-OLED, I've heard very little good about it.Velvet pro doesn't roll off the tongue, but that's what would make this LG launch less lacklustre.
Kangal - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Design? You must be blind.Rear camera now has a bump, this used to be flush in the body.
Sides are too narrow, making it structurally weaker, slippery, and less comfortable to hold.
The screen is now curved, LG was one of the few that resisted this trend.
And what is up with the weird aspect ratio AND notch?
The last best phone LG made?
The G2 was good, but the G6 was great in 2016 at half-price when LG made the firesale. The LG G5 was actually IP66 water resistant AND had a User Removable battery. For the past 2 years the LG V30 had been on discount too. And the LG V20 was The Last Android Phone which had a removable battery.
If you want something that isn't fragile, the design of the Samsung S6 Active is preferable.
Or if you want longevity, then a removable battery like that of the Samsung Note 4 is ideal.
For regular use, the design or concepts found in the Sony XZ1, Alcatel Idol 4S, and ZTE Axon7 are great.
flyingpants265 - Saturday, May 9, 2020 - link
The G5 was inferior to the G3. Same size, but smaller screen. Just crap. I sold it immediately. Terrible battery life. I believe it was also factory defective, like most LG phones. It was also hollow, which is completely insane. the screen would flex and make a hollow noise when you tapped on it.I like my G6, mostly because I paid $40 for it, but it's quite slow, and the screen size is again too small.
flyingpants265 - Saturday, May 9, 2020 - link
Besides the speaker grills themselves, the Idol 4S is probably the best-looking front stereo phone on the market.At least one of the axons didn't even have stereo speakers, it had fake cut oats. Also, that awful grill and off-center camera would drive me nuts.
Maxpower2727 - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - link
I'm not sure where you got your information, but the G5 had no water resistance whatsoever.Kangal - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - link
Sorry, I meant that as the LG G5 was never officially endorsed for water resistance.However, I've seen and heard plenty of owners who accidentally dropped them in the pool etc and the phone kept working no problems. I was surprised with this finding, especially since the battery is still User Removable. Sort of like the Samsung S5, but that was mostly just "splash proof" and not really resistant. The LG G5 was not quite "waterproof" like the IP67 devices, but moreso like an IP66 level of "water resistance". It was a shame the other issues of the LG G5 like it's marketing, pricing, bootlooping, poor camera, poor display, and QC issues hampered what seemed to be a good phone in the concept.
The old Samsung Galaxy S6 was similar to the G5, in that, it was never officially water resistant, but secretly it was built with ingress protection in mind. It is roughly an IP67 waterproof, similar to the iPhone 7's level. Of course, there's a difference between low-IP67, current IP68, and IP69K pressured-water resistance.
It is a shame that phones CANNOT last long anymore. OLED screens produce burn-in, and Sealed Batteries mean issues for owners. I'm not so sure the trade-offs were worth it. There's plenty of users still clinging to their Samsung Note 4's and LG V20's, switching microSD cards, replaceable batteries, and using Custom Roms.
boozed - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
Unfortunately no actual velvets were harmed in the creation of this phonedrexnx - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
and here I was, excited for a velvet-backed phone. Imagine how nice that'd feel in hand?airdrifting - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
The last good phone LG made was G2, and it was downhill from there. Who still remembered their attempt at making modular phones?solnyshok - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
they need to launch g2-remake.NICOXIS - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Look at what you get with similar pricing from the Meizu 17 Pro, this phone has no chance...https://www.anandtech.com/show/15778/meizu-announc...
shabby - Friday, May 8, 2020 - link
Probably just for the Asian market with limited international bands.Cirecomputers12 - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - link
I'd opt for the Realme x2 pro at 350 usd for it's base model. It can't be beat.flyingpants265 - Saturday, May 9, 2020 - link
Jesus, this just looks terrible.pashhtk27 - Saturday, May 9, 2020 - link
LG made good phones. They priced them crazy but they were complete and packed with feature that actually matter. Not this. The only niche this phone serves is those who want to buy a big brand product (in general perception), display/weight ratio, a 'hopefully big battery life' and design aesthetics over anything else. Very Velvet indeed. A product made for the show show crowd with no substance. As a technology lover, I am very disappointed.If you want a better camera system, faster sharper display, better battery life, processor, 5G etc you go for a S20 or OP8Pro.
If you want an LG, you go for the older V50 or G8 on discount that have a faster processor and ESS DAC (The only real reason people buy LG). Weight, design? Those are comparably light and better. Is the notch that big a deal breaker?
And if you really want the latest (As that matters with tiny improvements), LG and 5G, just pull out $100 more and get a V60.
LG declared they will change their strategy and this is the resultant product. People who have never bought an LG won't really care but the existing fanbase of LG will be disappointed. And I personally don't think they'll be getting any new fans unless they thin those profit margins a bit more.
zamroni - Monday, May 11, 2020 - link
That curved edge screen is bad for utilization while increases the price at least $50CameraGuy1337 - Monday, June 1, 2020 - link
It's pretty aesthetic. BUT nothing special without design.