They must be referring to 64 GB in a single SO-DIMM (also DIMM), which is expected to be released for consumers as DDR5, not DDR4. DDR4 tops out at 32 GB for non-server memory, and there's no point making 64 GB DDR4 DIMMs with DDR5 right around the corner.
Too bad many laptops are using soldered memory now with no user-upgradeable memory slots.
This does make me wonder if I can get my Latitude 3160's Pentium n3700 to recognize and properly use a 16GB SODIMM. Intel officially supports up to 8GB of DDR3L 1600 which is enough I guess, but meh.
"Memory manufacturer Golden Emporer International Limited, or known generally as GeiL"
Typo in the full company name. It's "Emperor", not "Emporer"; probably important to get it right if you're making the effort to spell it out. Perhaps you will have to pore over the next article more closely. :)
mITX motherboards should use SO-DIMM memory, would free up a fair bit of room, maybe even allow 4 slots of RAM instead of the current 2. I don't understand what's stopping the makers from doing this.
The consumer market is just not big enough for this, i am afraid. I agree that SO-DIMMs would be nice for compact builds, but it seems the motherboard manufacturers do not really seem to see this as a selling point in the consumer market. Unlike SO-DIMMS, with standard-size DIMMs one has upgrade paths from/to larger form factors (such as mATX/ATX), which isn't helping the SO-DIMM proponents (remember, vendors want to keep selling you stuff; they don't like you to buy only once and then keep the things for 10 years...)
In the workstation/server space are a select few -- still not many -- mITX boards with SO-DIMM slots, though. ASRock Rack's X299 WSI/IPMI comes to mind...
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sharath.naik - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
Need 64gb DDR4 SODIMM, if I am to drop desktop altogether, for every use case.Sivar - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
It will probably be a DDR5 module.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
...?nandnandnand - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
They must be referring to 64 GB in a single SO-DIMM (also DIMM), which is expected to be released for consumers as DDR5, not DDR4. DDR4 tops out at 32 GB for non-server memory, and there's no point making 64 GB DDR4 DIMMs with DDR5 right around the corner.Too bad many laptops are using soldered memory now with no user-upgradeable memory slots.
deil - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
It pains me a lot as getting ram bump was the easiest way to get second live into cheap laptop.nandnandnand - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
Yeah. I would even throw 32 GB (~$100) into a crummy $100 4 GB laptop if it was possible.Then you have $1,000 systems that are non-upgradeable, because Ultrabookz.
deil - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
same here. I have 32GB laptop now, and I am really running out sometimes, not often but I keep seeing it just when I seriously start to multitask.vFunct - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
I just want them with ECC so I don't have to worry about crashes all the time. Current laptop crashes ALL the time.nandnandnand - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
I'd like to see ECC RAM become standard for consumers, but are bit errors really causing your laptop to crash frequently?evilpaul666 - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
Life in the nuclear reactor; it's rough.PeachNCream - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link
This does make me wonder if I can get my Latitude 3160's Pentium n3700 to recognize and properly use a 16GB SODIMM. Intel officially supports up to 8GB of DDR3L 1600 which is enough I guess, but meh.Spunjji - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
I'm genuinely interested as to what workloads would benefit from 16GB of RAM tied to Braswell CPU cores. What do you do with it?I think the 8GB limitation is a hard one, unfortunately.
callmebob - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
The product announcment clearly lacks in the audio department.www . youtube . com / watch?v=kyaXX7ad_CE
Mobile-Dom - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
now someone sensd some to Ianromrunning - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
"Memory manufacturer Golden Emporer International Limited, or known generally as GeiL"Typo in the full company name. It's "Emperor", not "Emporer"; probably important to get it right if you're making the effort to spell it out. Perhaps you will have to pore over the next article more closely. :)
Tomatotech - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
mITX motherboards should use SO-DIMM memory, would free up a fair bit of room, maybe even allow 4 slots of RAM instead of the current 2. I don't understand what's stopping the makers from doing this.callmebob - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
The consumer market is just not big enough for this, i am afraid. I agree that SO-DIMMs would be nice for compact builds, but it seems the motherboard manufacturers do not really seem to see this as a selling point in the consumer market. Unlike SO-DIMMS, with standard-size DIMMs one has upgrade paths from/to larger form factors (such as mATX/ATX), which isn't helping the SO-DIMM proponents (remember, vendors want to keep selling you stuff; they don't like you to buy only once and then keep the things for 10 years...)In the workstation/server space are a select few -- still not many -- mITX boards with SO-DIMM slots, though. ASRock Rack's X299 WSI/IPMI comes to mind...
callmebob - Wednesday, May 6, 2020 - link
To balance Intel vs. AMD, ASRock Rack has also a Ryzen-based mITX board with 4 SO-DIMM slots, the X570D4I-2T.boozed - Thursday, May 7, 2020 - link
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