It's likely Intel heavily subsidized the whole thing. Meaning manufacturers that want to test the waters can do it with lower financial risk. Good for Intel too, they can boast another design win.
Is this based on that Intel-made reference design that made the rounds from various vendors a little while back? The configuration and weight certainly line up.
As for it not being the lightest of 15" gaming laptops - are there lighter options? I thought portability without sacrificing performance was the point of that reference design. It doesn't reach Asus G14 levels, but those are 14". The Gigabyte Aero 15 is 2kg at least.
Thanks for that information. <sarcasm>I love how you can buy the exact same laptop from like six different companies and how great Anandtech is at investigative journalism when compared to someone using a search engine.</sarcasm>
In all seriousness, I do find a lot more useful data at notebookcheck these days than I do at Anandtech when it comes to anything related to a laptop.
Well, it makes sense - it's their focus after all. Their reviews are generally excellent too. Though their news posts do tend towards being downright terrible, from reposting rumors without checking to just terrible writing or factual errors. But their reviews are second to none. On the other hand watching them try to cover technical stuff in detail and then comparing it to AT is like comparing a three-year-old with a single crayon to Michelangelo.
If they actually wanted to have stood out in the market they should have gone with Ryzen 4000 Mobile (Renoir) instead of the ridiculously mediocre Comet Lake-H. When will the OEMs learn???
XPG doesn't have the resources to design their own computer so as Valantar pointed out initially, they're just hocking the same platform a bunch of other little fish are selling with their logo slapped on it instead of some other little company's logo. Product differentiation begins and ends at the brand label.
... this is an Intel-made reference design rebranded by Adata/XPG, as done before by quite a few others. It would be quite odd if it had an AMD APU, no? Also, Ryzen 4000 APUs perform roughly equal to Intel-based laptops with the same GPU in gaming (while consuming significantly less power). Cinebench is absolutely overvalued, which is why you ought to actually look at gaming benchmarks for those laptops before you start typing.
It's painful to watch. I nobody should be that way unless they're actually paid by Intel. Intel is not his friend. AMD is not his friend. Research and buying the best product for your task is your friend.
That's what "best laptops for [use case] [season/month] [year]" guides are for. If you are buying a device as pricey as even a cheap laptop the least you can do is skim a few of those.
The next step is to read reviews of a couple of the relevant ones to get a better understanding of whether it fits your specific needs. Of course lots of people couldn't identify their needs if asked, which is where qualified and knowledgeable retail staff come in - knowing which questions to ask to arrive at a good recommendation. IMO these steps are a minimum, but at least looking at an overview guide is within the capabilities of absolutely anyone.
When will people actually read the reviews and realise that AMD is ahead in PURE SINGLE THREAD WORKLOADS when it comes to mobile chips, at LOWER POWER.
"memorable one." Memorable is in sending a vector graphic of the XPG logo for the Clevo/Sager factory to stamp the lid of their chunky boi same as 20 others peddling in buy a laptop from the ODM space?
This isn't a Clevo design, nor is it from that other Chinese no-name OEM that seems to be the go-to laptop OEM if you don't want a Clevo design. It's designed and developed by Intel (probably in cooperation with someone like Foxconn, but not Clevo).
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PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Error in the table. Prices are swapped between the two GPU types.UltraWide - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
They didn't even try to design the darn thing! It looks like an ODM laptop lolclose - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
It's likely Intel heavily subsidized the whole thing. Meaning manufacturers that want to test the waters can do it with lower financial risk. Good for Intel too, they can boast another design win.Valantar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Is this based on that Intel-made reference design that made the rounds from various vendors a little while back? The configuration and weight certainly line up.As for it not being the lightest of 15" gaming laptops - are there lighter options? I thought portability without sacrificing performance was the point of that reference design. It doesn't reach Asus G14 levels, but those are 14". The Gigabyte Aero 15 is 2kg at least.
Valantar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Looks like I was right: https://www.notebookcheck.net/ADATA-debuts-its-fir...Ryan Smith - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Interesting find. Thanks man. We were internally guessing it was a Clevo or Foxconn; we weren't expecting an Intel design.elgreco123 - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
It's not only intel design. It's a Intel-TongFang design. The model is called QC7PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Thanks for that information. <sarcasm>I love how you can buy the exact same laptop from like six different companies and how great Anandtech is at investigative journalism when compared to someone using a search engine.</sarcasm>In all seriousness, I do find a lot more useful data at notebookcheck these days than I do at Anandtech when it comes to anything related to a laptop.
Valantar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Well, it makes sense - it's their focus after all. Their reviews are generally excellent too. Though their news posts do tend towards being downright terrible, from reposting rumors without checking to just terrible writing or factual errors. But their reviews are second to none. On the other hand watching them try to cover technical stuff in detail and then comparing it to AT is like comparing a three-year-old with a single crayon to Michelangelo.Cooe - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
If they actually wanted to have stood out in the market they should have gone with Ryzen 4000 Mobile (Renoir) instead of the ridiculously mediocre Comet Lake-H. When will the OEMs learn???PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
XPG doesn't have the resources to design their own computer so as Valantar pointed out initially, they're just hocking the same platform a bunch of other little fish are selling with their logo slapped on it instead of some other little company's logo. Product differentiation begins and ends at the brand label.dwade123 - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
Another win for Intel and Nvidia. When will AMD learn that most people outside of their shill-circle don't care about meaningless Cinebench scores.Valantar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
... this is an Intel-made reference design rebranded by Adata/XPG, as done before by quite a few others. It would be quite odd if it had an AMD APU, no? Also, Ryzen 4000 APUs perform roughly equal to Intel-based laptops with the same GPU in gaming (while consuming significantly less power). Cinebench is absolutely overvalued, which is why you ought to actually look at gaming benchmarks for those laptops before you start typing.Qasar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
he cant, and wont though, to him, intel is, and always be king, no matter what anything, anybody, or reviews and benchmarks say.yetanotherhuman - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
It's painful to watch. I nobody should be that way unless they're actually paid by Intel. Intel is not his friend. AMD is not his friend. Research and buying the best product for your task is your friend.Holliday75 - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
That is too much work for the average person.Valantar - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
That's what "best laptops for [use case] [season/month] [year]" guides are for. If you are buying a device as pricey as even a cheap laptop the least you can do is skim a few of those.The next step is to read reviews of a couple of the relevant ones to get a better understanding of whether it fits your specific needs. Of course lots of people couldn't identify their needs if asked, which is where qualified and knowledgeable retail staff come in - knowing which questions to ask to arrive at a good recommendation. IMO these steps are a minimum, but at least looking at an overview guide is within the capabilities of absolutely anyone.
yetanotherhuman - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
When will people actually read the reviews and realise that AMD is ahead in PURE SINGLE THREAD WORKLOADS when it comes to mobile chips, at LOWER POWER.Gunbuster - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
"memorable one." Memorable is in sending a vector graphic of the XPG logo for the Clevo/Sager factory to stamp the lid of their chunky boi same as 20 others peddling in buy a laptop from the ODM space?Valantar - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
This isn't a Clevo design, nor is it from that other Chinese no-name OEM that seems to be the go-to laptop OEM if you don't want a Clevo design. It's designed and developed by Intel (probably in cooperation with someone like Foxconn, but not Clevo).Gunbuster - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
Same difference, the only contribution was a check to the factory for a off the rack bland ODM design.thuckabay - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
This XPG machine is similar to Walmart's Overpowered 17.3" OP-LP3 computer.TheUnhandledException - Thursday, April 23, 2020 - link
From the specs "1 x USB 3.2 G2x2 Type-A". That is not possible the stupidly named USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (aka 20 Gbps USB) is only available on usb-c.thuckabay - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link
This machine is far too pricey for its specs. It is offering what will soon be last year's CPU, and AMD will clean its clock for far less money.