Vendor-supplied ASOP without Google's revolting bundled spyware? Best phone idea ever if you don't want to deal with f-ing Alphabet all up in your shizzle constantly.
I'd honestly rather have China spying on me than Alphabet. At least the government's motives are obviously related to intellectual property theft and overwatch of citizens. Google, on the other hand, is f*cked up in every possible way through the assembly of a broad data set across search, location, biometrics, web activity, who calls who, video viewership, and so forth. Sure they say you can turn the collection off, but is the monitoring and collection really not happening? Are those gigabytes of history and information stored on their servers really being deleted when you tell them to do it? No one will know until any present, past, or future public incidents happen and by then its way too late to do anything about it.
China literally does all of the exact same things Google does too AND on top of that its a communist dictatorship that lies literally about every piece of data it "discloses". How is that better than Alphabet?
If you don't live in China, the reach of their government is weak at best. On the other hand, as I already explained above, Alphabet aims to be everywhere to mine data from everything and has the advantage of access to nearly everyone so it can broadly link activities among individuals and groups. If you do live in China, there is nothing any amount of banter in a tech forum is going to do to alter the course of action or change the situation. Therefore, Google looms large as a threat and China those of us here. Besides that, China is a politically easy target for westerners to attack as the big bad nemesis so they can avoid thinking and addressing problematic companies like Alphabet.
"China is a politically easy target for westerners to attack as the big bad nemesis so they can avoid thinking and addressing problematic companies like Alphabet."
Well said, as a guy from Europe I would rather take my chances with China spying on me rather than US who we know for certain it spies even on its so called "allies".
That's more than fair enough as far as I'm concerned. I will say though that government spying is given a lot more credit for being effective on a individualized level than it really is in reality. On the other hand, social networks, search engines, and other technology companies live and die over a much shorter time period so they have a lot more at stake than g-(wo)men that are keeping an eye on citizens of other nations.
Hey, I think you forgot to mention the main camera for the 30 Pro+ in the text. 30 and 30 Pro both have the 40MP P30 camera, but the camera on the 30 Pro+ seems to be similar to the P40 camera with the 50MP sensor main unit.
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PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Vendor-supplied ASOP without Google's revolting bundled spyware? Best phone idea ever if you don't want to deal with f-ing Alphabet all up in your shizzle constantly.quiksilvr - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
No you get all of China spy shizzle instead.prophet001 - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
You're not wrong.PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
I'd honestly rather have China spying on me than Alphabet. At least the government's motives are obviously related to intellectual property theft and overwatch of citizens. Google, on the other hand, is f*cked up in every possible way through the assembly of a broad data set across search, location, biometrics, web activity, who calls who, video viewership, and so forth. Sure they say you can turn the collection off, but is the monitoring and collection really not happening? Are those gigabytes of history and information stored on their servers really being deleted when you tell them to do it? No one will know until any present, past, or future public incidents happen and by then its way too late to do anything about it.Deicidium369 - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Wonder what happened to "Don't Be Evil"?wr3zzz - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
I think Google officially dropped that motto around the time Facebook went public. I am serious.quiksilvr - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
China literally does all of the exact same things Google does too AND on top of that its a communist dictatorship that lies literally about every piece of data it "discloses". How is that better than Alphabet?PeachNCream - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
If you don't live in China, the reach of their government is weak at best. On the other hand, as I already explained above, Alphabet aims to be everywhere to mine data from everything and has the advantage of access to nearly everyone so it can broadly link activities among individuals and groups. If you do live in China, there is nothing any amount of banter in a tech forum is going to do to alter the course of action or change the situation. Therefore, Google looms large as a threat and China those of us here. Besides that, China is a politically easy target for westerners to attack as the big bad nemesis so they can avoid thinking and addressing problematic companies like Alphabet.d01mf - Thursday, April 16, 2020 - link
"If you don't live in China, the reach of their government is weak at best" ... Let's revisit that statement in a couple of decades, shall we?PeachNCream - Friday, April 17, 2020 - link
I don't mind revisiting that, but a couple of decades from now is not today and bears no relevance to purchase of a current generation phone.vladx - Friday, April 17, 2020 - link
"China is a politically easy target for westerners to attack as the big bad nemesis so they can avoid thinking and addressing problematic companies like Alphabet."Well said, as a guy from Europe I would rather take my chances with China spying on me rather than US who we know for certain it spies even on its so called "allies".
PeachNCream - Friday, April 17, 2020 - link
That's more than fair enough as far as I'm concerned. I will say though that government spying is given a lot more credit for being effective on a individualized level than it really is in reality. On the other hand, social networks, search engines, and other technology companies live and die over a much shorter time period so they have a lot more at stake than g-(wo)men that are keeping an eye on citizens of other nations.serjrps - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Hey, I think you forgot to mention the main camera for the 30 Pro+ in the text. 30 and 30 Pro both have the 40MP P30 camera, but the camera on the 30 Pro+ seems to be similar to the P40 camera with the 50MP sensor main unit.brucethemoose - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Yeah... and what do you really need it for anyway? Apps like Play Music work without it, AFAIK.brucethemoose - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
^was meant to be a reply to AOSP.imaheadcase - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
This would be a good post in anandtech.chprophet001 - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Yep. Prolly meant .cn though.boozed - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Anandtech Switzerland?ads295 - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
Huawei could kick ass if they made smaller phones like the iPhone SE... But they don't.nicolaim - Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - link
No headphone jack, (mostly) no wireless charging, proprietary SD card, and no proper waterproofing: fail.vladx - Friday, April 17, 2020 - link
There's Honor 30S if you want a Honor phone with a jack.ads295 - Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - link
... and yet again they got caught trying to pass off DSLR pics as those from their phones.