No word on OLED refresh rate, so we're to assume 60 Hz? What's the hold up here? Every person who uses a monitor wants a high refresh rate OLED, so there is a market for it. It's not like there are technical limitations in the display technology, and it's not like there is a limit anywhere else in the chain for high pixel clocks (literally a 300 Hz LCD is a drop-in replacement). So why are they shipping with 60 Hz? To save cost? OLED is a premium option. It can't add a significant percentage of cost.
Display brightness suffers at high refresh rates, and OLED isn't known for its great brightness. You're also underestimating the effect it would have on battery, as with typical screen usage OLED is pretty tough on that too. It's also targeted towards media content creation, which essentially never goes beyond 60Hz. It wouldn't be amortised cost. See: photography, movies, animation & drawing...
Given that the laptops are running a 2070 or 2080, it seems like battery life is something that has been placed in second row seating behind graphics performance. I doubt that the target audience will care about a further loss of battery life from a high refresh screen. Razer customers are a bit like Apple customers in that they care a lot more about d!ck waving over practical usage.
Yup and it's one of the most useful features to come out of dGPUs in laptops in ages. You buy a laptop with a dGPU and ideally a shared cooling system between the graphics chip and the CPU then force everything to stay on the iGPU. Cooling fans don't have to work as hard and the system stays a lot quieter and cooler. Its even better if you set everything to max battery in power settings and choke the CPU clockspeed to somewhere around 80% even when plugged in. It still doesn't beat some of the really low TDP fanless laptops out there when it comes to usefully quiet operation, but that can help to an extent with fan noise.
"It's not like there are technical limitations in the display technology"
Gotta laugh at people ignoring the last 6 years of VR display development, where 'black smear' (AKA OLED low level activation lag) has been a long-standing issue. One that everyone has solved by... switching to fast-switch LCDs.
OLEDs can switch on and off very fast in ideal scenarios (e.g. bang-bang operation for PWM), but the devil is in the details when you want to make a sample-and-hold display out of them. Same as you can get 50μs switch time LCD panels in welding helmets, but the switch time for an LCD cell in a monitor is nowhere near that.
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I really like how forward looking Razer is being with the base model. Giving up to 512GB of storage should allow me to install at least 2 contemporary games and though I may have to uninstall them, I expect fully to be able to keep at least one next gen console port on it by around this time next year.
My friend just had his Razer Blade Pro 2018 shoot out sparks and smoke from the motherboard and then it stopped charging. He sent it into Razer and after 5 weeks of waiting, was quoted at $850 to replace the motherboard. Razer has a well deserved reputation for poor reliability with their laptops. Add to that poor turnaround time and expensive repairs. It doesn't matter how cool their laptops are if they die on you and cost as much as a fully refurbished Blade Pro to fix. Not when Dell/Alienware will send a technician to your house the same or next day and have you back up and running. I will always encourage my friends to look elsewhere than Razer.
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willis936 - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
No word on OLED refresh rate, so we're to assume 60 Hz? What's the hold up here? Every person who uses a monitor wants a high refresh rate OLED, so there is a market for it. It's not like there are technical limitations in the display technology, and it's not like there is a limit anywhere else in the chain for high pixel clocks (literally a 300 Hz LCD is a drop-in replacement). So why are they shipping with 60 Hz? To save cost? OLED is a premium option. It can't add a significant percentage of cost.Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
Display brightness suffers at high refresh rates, and OLED isn't known for its great brightness.You're also underestimating the effect it would have on battery, as with typical screen usage OLED is pretty tough on that too.
It's also targeted towards media content creation, which essentially never goes beyond 60Hz. It wouldn't be amortised cost. See: photography, movies, animation & drawing...
PeachNCream - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
Given that the laptops are running a 2070 or 2080, it seems like battery life is something that has been placed in second row seating behind graphics performance. I doubt that the target audience will care about a further loss of battery life from a high refresh screen. Razer customers are a bit like Apple customers in that they care a lot more about d!ck waving over practical usage.Retycint - Saturday, April 4, 2020 - link
You know Optimus is a thing, right? It doesn't matter, in terms of power consumption, whether the GPU is a MX350 or an RTX2080 if it's switched off.PeachNCream - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
Yup and it's one of the most useful features to come out of dGPUs in laptops in ages. You buy a laptop with a dGPU and ideally a shared cooling system between the graphics chip and the CPU then force everything to stay on the iGPU. Cooling fans don't have to work as hard and the system stays a lot quieter and cooler. Its even better if you set everything to max battery in power settings and choke the CPU clockspeed to somewhere around 80% even when plugged in. It still doesn't beat some of the really low TDP fanless laptops out there when it comes to usefully quiet operation, but that can help to an extent with fan noise.SSTANIC - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
+1edzieba - Monday, April 6, 2020 - link
"It's not like there are technical limitations in the display technology"Gotta laugh at people ignoring the last 6 years of VR display development, where 'black smear' (AKA OLED low level activation lag) has been a long-standing issue. One that everyone has solved by... switching to fast-switch LCDs.
OLEDs can switch on and off very fast in ideal scenarios (e.g. bang-bang operation for PWM), but the devil is in the details when you want to make a sample-and-hold display out of them. Same as you can get 50μs switch time LCD panels in welding helmets, but the switch time for an LCD cell in a monitor is nowhere near that.
linamking9 - Thursday, April 16, 2020 - link
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I really like how forward looking Razer is being with the base model. Giving up to 512GB of storage should allow me to install at least 2 contemporary games and though I may have to uninstall them, I expect fully to be able to keep at least one next gen console port on it by around this time next year.neo_1221 - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
512GB + an open M.2 slot.s.yu - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
Hmmm, I thought Blade 15 Advanced had over 90Wh...Irata - Friday, April 3, 2020 - link
They are using energy efficient CPU, so no need for a large battery.[\s]
oRAirwolf - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
My friend just had his Razer Blade Pro 2018 shoot out sparks and smoke from the motherboard and then it stopped charging. He sent it into Razer and after 5 weeks of waiting, was quoted at $850 to replace the motherboard. Razer has a well deserved reputation for poor reliability with their laptops. Add to that poor turnaround time and expensive repairs. It doesn't matter how cool their laptops are if they die on you and cost as much as a fully refurbished Blade Pro to fix. Not when Dell/Alienware will send a technician to your house the same or next day and have you back up and running. I will always encourage my friends to look elsewhere than Razer.s.yu - Sunday, April 5, 2020 - link
Ok, that's scary. And to think some of those models are marketed as workstations...Asus is certainly an alternative by most measures.Deicidium369 - Monday, April 20, 2020 - link
Those are a new type of LED - Razer exclusive - at least you got a light show before it died - the mice, keyboards and headsets just die with no lightshow.Arnav_B - Tuesday, April 7, 2020 - link
Not bad although it still needs to deal with the OLED refresh rate cause its a vital aspectBeneetley - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
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