"The D5 Thunderbolt 3 is equipped with a 40-Gbps lightning speed interface, and the read and write support attains speeds of up to 1,035 MB/s (test conditions: 5 SSDs, RAID 0 mode)"
Yeah, '40-Gbps lightning speed interface' This performance is abysmal. 5 SATA SSD's in RAID0 should net 2-2.5GB/s, not "peak" at ~1GB/s.
It's horrifying to imagine how loud this box could bet with 5 mechanical drives and 2 fans in the back, all sitting right next to your keyboard, going full throttle on the I/O... I hope they include gratis earplugs with the hardware.
Besides, the main point of getting SSDs is not to have 2.5GB/s instead of 1GB/s, it's to get the lowest possible latency. The cherry on the cake is silence and compactness. I wonder if many people will put SSDs in that though.
I bought a Terramaster F4-220 as a backup to my primary file server. I regretted it and ended up selling it. The hardware wasn't terrible. I thought the drive trays were chintzy but serviceable. What made me get rid of it was the software. There was no way to setup an rsync task to my primary file server that would be persistent across reboots because everything that was not configured through the interface was wiped out at reboot. This was a deal killer for me because what's the point of a backup server if you can't setup automated backups?
While not even in the same ballpark performance, power, ease of use, or size wise, I ended up with a 1U 12x3.5" bay Hyve Cygnus off eBay for the same amount of money. I installed 12x8TB WD Red's in it along with 16GB of ECC memory and a Xeon E3-1220 v2. I flashed the embedded LSI SAS2008 RAID controller to initiator target mode and then installed FreeNAS on it and configured it for RAIDZ2. It makes for a nice backup server with a 10 gigabit connection to my primary server and cost about the same overall in the end. Now if only I could do something about the noise...
I'd love something that could take 5-10 nvme m.2 drives. Should be around the size of my hand, with one of these embedded AMD zen CPUs, a few GB of memory and a small fan. Cost around £400 maybe? 20 TB of nvme at around 5GB/s would be lovely.
Would need 2x TB3 cables to get that - I think TB3 peaks at around 2.5GB/s. Retrieving a single file might max at 2.5GB/s but retrieving multiple files, might get a total transfer max of the full 5GB/s.
Or forget 3.5" HDDs and just design a cheap fast enclosure that can take a bunch of SATA SSDs and deliver decent speed - with the move to m.2, the price of old SATA SSDs are dropping through the floor, and by specifying SDD only, there's savings to be made in the power supply etc.
I mean, the ASRock A300 is tiny, costs only £130 and comes with PSU, mobo and case, and takes 2x m.2 nvme and 2x SATA, all you need to supply is the drives, processor and RAM. That's almost everything I listed above, just missing TB3 or some other beefy way of passing that data to a bigger desktop.
I think I’d rather go with an external thunderbolt 3 SSD and then have it backed up to my nas. Much quieter and higher performance. Nextinphotography.com
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sandtitz - Friday, March 20, 2020 - link
Terramaster product page:"The D5 Thunderbolt 3 is equipped with a 40-Gbps lightning speed interface, and the read and write support attains speeds of up to 1,035 MB/s (test conditions: 5 SSDs, RAID 0 mode)"
Yeah, '40-Gbps lightning speed interface'
This performance is abysmal. 5 SATA SSD's in RAID0 should net 2-2.5GB/s, not "peak" at ~1GB/s.
HideOut - Friday, March 20, 2020 - link
maybe that was mechanical drives?boeush - Friday, March 20, 2020 - link
It's horrifying to imagine how loud this box could bet with 5 mechanical drives and 2 fans in the back, all sitting right next to your keyboard, going full throttle on the I/O... I hope they include gratis earplugs with the hardware.PixyMisa - Friday, March 20, 2020 - link
Depends a lot on the drive. Some drives you hardly notice, others sound like a tin can full of marbles.Slash3 - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
Time to upgrade your WD Velociraptors. :PSlash3 - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
Time to upgrade your WD Velociraptors. :Psandtitz - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
"test conditions: 5 SSDs, RAID 0 mode"ZoZo - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
Besides, the main point of getting SSDs is not to have 2.5GB/s instead of 1GB/s, it's to get the lowest possible latency. The cherry on the cake is silence and compactness.I wonder if many people will put SSDs in that though.
Dug - Monday, March 23, 2020 - link
With SATA ssd, that is about the level to expect.buri - Friday, March 20, 2020 - link
On Amazon Germany it goes for 699€oRAirwolf - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
I bought a Terramaster F4-220 as a backup to my primary file server. I regretted it and ended up selling it. The hardware wasn't terrible. I thought the drive trays were chintzy but serviceable. What made me get rid of it was the software. There was no way to setup an rsync task to my primary file server that would be persistent across reboots because everything that was not configured through the interface was wiped out at reboot. This was a deal killer for me because what's the point of a backup server if you can't setup automated backups?While not even in the same ballpark performance, power, ease of use, or size wise, I ended up with a 1U 12x3.5" bay Hyve Cygnus off eBay for the same amount of money. I installed 12x8TB WD Red's in it along with 16GB of ECC memory and a Xeon E3-1220 v2. I flashed the embedded LSI SAS2008 RAID controller to initiator target mode and then installed FreeNAS on it and configured it for RAIDZ2. It makes for a nice backup server with a 10 gigabit connection to my primary server and cost about the same overall in the end. Now if only I could do something about the noise...
Tomatotech - Saturday, March 21, 2020 - link
I'd love something that could take 5-10 nvme m.2 drives. Should be around the size of my hand, with one of these embedded AMD zen CPUs, a few GB of memory and a small fan. Cost around £400 maybe? 20 TB of nvme at around 5GB/s would be lovely.Would need 2x TB3 cables to get that - I think TB3 peaks at around 2.5GB/s. Retrieving a single file might max at 2.5GB/s but retrieving multiple files, might get a total transfer max of the full 5GB/s.
Or forget 3.5" HDDs and just design a cheap fast enclosure that can take a bunch of SATA SSDs and deliver decent speed - with the move to m.2, the price of old SATA SSDs are dropping through the floor, and by specifying SDD only, there's savings to be made in the power supply etc.
I mean, the ASRock A300 is tiny, costs only £130 and comes with PSU, mobo and case, and takes 2x m.2 nvme and 2x SATA, all you need to supply is the drives, processor and RAM. That's almost everything I listed above, just missing TB3 or some other beefy way of passing that data to a bigger desktop.
davidmc - Sunday, April 25, 2021 - link
I think I’d rather go with an external thunderbolt 3 SSD and then have it backed up to my nas. Much quieter and higher performance. Nextinphotography.com