I'm actually quite intrigued by this. I run a gerry-rigged Phanteks Glacier with a PWM DDC pump in the bottom of the Loque Ghost M2 SFF case, and this would a good drop in replacement if I could mount it flat. And how well it will integrate with the Aquacomputer Aquaero 6.
When I hear "gerry-rigged" I see the guy doing vodka filed custom loop. Still this is interesting piece, that open some options.... I just thought holes on the sides would be optional inlets/outlets. that would be better for clean looking hard tubing instead of front facing ones, if its made already for small & usefull.
If they have 2x80mm radiators, this could be useful for Threadripper in a 4U case, though I wonder if that would actually be better than Noctua's NH-U9 TR4-SP3.
I'm not sure a dual 80mm would handle a Threadripper, at least not a high end one. Maybe a 24 core, but it'll heat soak that loop fairly quick when loaded up hard. A dual 120 (240mm) would be just fine (my 2080Ti doesn't break 52 degrees with 338W load, single 240mm rad, fans nearly at idle, EKWB block), but dual 80 might be a little shy on dissipation area
I would have to see more pictures in cases. Looking at all of this, you aren't saving any space or weight compared to a single air cooler. And with air you get rid of pump noise.
Yes, but lowering temps that are already well below the point of concern even further gives some people comfort and/or bragging rights along with the perception of better performance due to not-proven longer sustained periods of time at higher boost clocks. It's less about saving anything and mroe about being a more stylish hobbyist. Think hair extensions, golden belt buckles, or heel lifts, but for PCs instead.
I moved to a full custom loop partly to get rid of a whiny pump on my Fury X, but also to get maximum cooling at the lowest possible noise levels in a compact(-ish) case. There's no way I could sustain the noise levels I currently see from my H200i with air cooling, mostly as any air cooled GPU no matter how overbuilt its cooler would inevitably be louder under load than my current three 120mm fans.
I had a NH-D14 and I couldn't reach anything around the CPU without removing the heat sink. I wanted to plug in another case fan to the fan header on the top of the motherboard and had to remove the heat sink. I wanted to add more RAM, so I had to remove the heat sink because it blocked two RAM slots. I wanted to change the rear fan on my case and had to remove the whatsit so I could reach the fan header. The NH-D14 is massive and takes up a lot of room inside the case. I switched to a 360mm AIO and my CPU temperatures under a 30+ minute sustained rendering load dropped 4-5C and I can reach everything around the top half of the motherboard without removing the CPU cooler.
On a previous PC, I had a large air cooler and it damaged the motherboard when I picked up the PC and carried it from an upstairs bedroom downstairs to a new home office. Just walking down the stairs caused enough vibration/impact that the motherboard got damaged. The top PCIEx16 slot and 2 RAM slots wouldn't work after that. Sure its my fault for not removing the CPU heat sink, but I never expected walking a short distance would cause that much damage. I've seen something similar happen when a person brought their mATX build to a local gaming shops LAN party. The motherboard was damage in the 2 mile car ride to the shop because of the large air cooler mounted on the motherboard. I doubt the water block form a custom loop or AIO would cause that much of a problem.
I swapped the NH-D14 into another PC with an EVGA Hybrid card that has its own AIR water cooler. I ran into the issue that the hot air from the NH-D14 caused the GPU to run hot because it was blowing directly at the rear fan area where the GPU radiator and fan were mounted. Luckily, I could mount the GPU radiator to the front of the case. However, that's not an option in all cases depending on the case size.
There are more benefits to water cooling than appearance or bragging rights. There are a lot of convenience and performance reasons.
For a "compact" solution, that thing is rather massive. Essentially two 120mm fans stacked on top of each other with some extra thickness for good measure.
And these guys I actually trust. Corsair after seeing how they designed their gpu block with 2 screws on the manifold and plastic instead of pmma, I really don't trust
That really depends on how the plexiglass was molded, doesn't it? If I recall, Corsair uses nylon because it is easier to work with in a mass production situation. Solid nylon is pretty durable(and more crack-resistant than plexiglass).
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Ninhalem - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
I'm actually quite intrigued by this. I run a gerry-rigged Phanteks Glacier with a PWM DDC pump in the bottom of the Loque Ghost M2 SFF case, and this would a good drop in replacement if I could mount it flat. And how well it will integrate with the Aquacomputer Aquaero 6.deil - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
When I hear "gerry-rigged" I see the guy doing vodka filed custom loop.Still this is interesting piece, that open some options.... I just thought holes on the sides would be optional inlets/outlets. that would be better for clean looking hard tubing instead of front facing ones, if its made already for small & usefull.
MenhirMike - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
If they have 2x80mm radiators, this could be useful for Threadripper in a 4U case, though I wonder if that would actually be better than Noctua's NH-U9 TR4-SP3.rnalsation - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
If you want 80mm radiators look at Alphacool.12345 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Hardwarelabs is the oem for Corsair's and they make a 58mm thick 2x80mm radiator. They make the best rads on the market.Thud2 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
I wonder if you could use 2 of these in series out the side of a Zaber Sentry?12345 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Oops, 54mm thick. http://hardwarelabs.com/nemesis/micro/m160gtx/MenhirMike - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Oh, thanks, that looks neat!Drkrieger01 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
I'm not sure a dual 80mm would handle a Threadripper, at least not a high end one. Maybe a 24 core, but it'll heat soak that loop fairly quick when loaded up hard. A dual 120 (240mm) would be just fine (my 2080Ti doesn't break 52 degrees with 338W load, single 240mm rad, fans nearly at idle, EKWB block), but dual 80 might be a little shy on dissipation areaMday - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Is that cold plate bigger enough for TR?Valantar - Sunday, March 1, 2020 - link
It's not a waterblock, just a pump/res combo unit. No cold plate involved.Dug - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
I would have to see more pictures in cases. Looking at all of this, you aren't saving any space or weight compared to a single air cooler. And with air you get rid of pump noise.PeachNCream - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Yes, but lowering temps that are already well below the point of concern even further gives some people comfort and/or bragging rights along with the perception of better performance due to not-proven longer sustained periods of time at higher boost clocks. It's less about saving anything and mroe about being a more stylish hobbyist. Think hair extensions, golden belt buckles, or heel lifts, but for PCs instead.Valantar - Sunday, March 1, 2020 - link
I moved to a full custom loop partly to get rid of a whiny pump on my Fury X, but also to get maximum cooling at the lowest possible noise levels in a compact(-ish) case. There's no way I could sustain the noise levels I currently see from my H200i with air cooling, mostly as any air cooled GPU no matter how overbuilt its cooler would inevitably be louder under load than my current three 120mm fans.Bavor - Friday, April 10, 2020 - link
I had a NH-D14 and I couldn't reach anything around the CPU without removing the heat sink. I wanted to plug in another case fan to the fan header on the top of the motherboard and had to remove the heat sink. I wanted to add more RAM, so I had to remove the heat sink because it blocked two RAM slots. I wanted to change the rear fan on my case and had to remove the whatsit so I could reach the fan header. The NH-D14 is massive and takes up a lot of room inside the case. I switched to a 360mm AIO and my CPU temperatures under a 30+ minute sustained rendering load dropped 4-5C and I can reach everything around the top half of the motherboard without removing the CPU cooler.On a previous PC, I had a large air cooler and it damaged the motherboard when I picked up the PC and carried it from an upstairs bedroom downstairs to a new home office. Just walking down the stairs caused enough vibration/impact that the motherboard got damaged. The top PCIEx16 slot and 2 RAM slots wouldn't work after that. Sure its my fault for not removing the CPU heat sink, but I never expected walking a short distance would cause that much damage. I've seen something similar happen when a person brought their mATX build to a local gaming shops LAN party. The motherboard was damage in the 2 mile car ride to the shop because of the large air cooler mounted on the motherboard. I doubt the water block form a custom loop or AIO would cause that much of a problem.
I swapped the NH-D14 into another PC with an EVGA Hybrid card that has its own AIR water cooler. I ran into the issue that the hot air from the NH-D14 caused the GPU to run hot because it was blowing directly at the rear fan area where the GPU radiator and fan were mounted. Luckily, I could mount the GPU radiator to the front of the case. However, that's not an option in all cases depending on the case size.
There are more benefits to water cooling than appearance or bragging rights. There are a lot of convenience and performance reasons.
Valantar - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
For a "compact" solution, that thing is rather massive. Essentially two 120mm fans stacked on top of each other with some extra thickness for good measure.Hxx - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
how is this better than something like this?https://www.formulamod.com/bykski-b-ddc-itn-high-p...
And these guys I actually trust. Corsair after seeing how they designed their gpu block with 2 screws on the manifold and plastic instead of pmma, I really don't trust
Lord of the Bored - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Is it worth pointing out that PMMA is a plastic?Hxx - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
Pmma is different than injection molded plastic even though both are “plastics”Lord of the Bored - Monday, March 2, 2020 - link
That really depends on how the plexiglass was molded, doesn't it?If I recall, Corsair uses nylon because it is easier to work with in a mass production situation. Solid nylon is pretty durable(and more crack-resistant than plexiglass).
Lord of the Bored - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Well, your link is just a pump, the Corsair unit is a pump and reservoir. That's a significant difference.Hxx - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
Look again it’s pump + TOP that’s a big difference as tops cost at times more . The res combo is just a matter of choice and costs about the same