Just curious, is it "Honor" or "honor" as the brand name? In most of the article it isn't given a capital letter except at the start of a sentence, but it is in the last line.
why aren't any tech companies launching an ultra light and ultra slim notebooks?. eg - Ryzen 3 APU,2/4GB,64/128GB eMMC with Linux.(without touch). It should be a great VFM product with lot of usability for developers.
Because ultraslim / ultralight and AMD doesn't mix. The platform sucks and no serious manufacturer wants to invest their money/time into developing something that noone is going to buy. It's pretty simple.
I had read a few of his comments. I don’t think he’s an Intel shill. He’s probably just a psycho thinking that he’s a cop who can travel back in time to arrest suspects right before the crimes being committed.
"" ... set to offer AMD Ryzen 5 systems globally from as low as £650 (estimated) "" _______________________________________________ The woods are full of AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4/8 Vega 8 APUs at FHD with Samsung 256/512 SSD configurations at less than half that price.
As a developer - no thank you as far as ultraslims & ultralights go given current reality. I would actually like to use my CPU and not have it constantly throttled by thermal limits. Or deal with the acoustic nightmare that often is the byproduct of cooling as an afterthought. As most of the time, it's sitting on my desk anyhow and I'm totally unable to notice what it weighs or what the height is again. Who cares, but please, don't make my compiles slow and fans spin. Worst is the two together.
Yeah, I'm not at all sure which developers would go for 2 core laptops with 2GB of RAM and 64GB storage. I find it strange that anyone would even consider 2GB reasonable these days.
Not that I think it's bad to have thin and light laptops for development on the road. I've done some development on such laptops, and am certainly looking forward to Ryzen 4000 to hopefully get a good amount of CPU power in a small form factor.
The very low cost, Atom based solutions are typically low power (with small batteries), and AMD didn't have until very recently anything in the sub-12W range. They are still no official Athlon Mobile variants on AMD's site with that power range, but the embedded variants have launched. So there's a chance we'll see more of those this year. (Not with Linux, though, most likely. Companies tend to prefer something that would sell.)
For higher end, until Ryzen 4000 power and the lack of LPDDR were a limitation from taking Ryzen into even smaller form factors. Hopefully Ryzen 4000 will make some headway there.
I just don't understand why would someone buy a laptop with a last gen (Ryzen 5 3500) APU when AMD and many vendors offer laptops with a current gen (Ryzen 4xxx) APU's.
I agree, but vendors are taking forever to get the 4xxx out the door. Here in Spain Dell sells 2 (two) models with Ryzen 3xxx and 1 (one) with Ryzen 2xxx. Amazing how strong Intel's control is.
I think you're underestimating how long the supply chain takes to deploy a product. The APUs only debuted at CES, and even if we just talk about the CPU side, those are relatively new. There are still plenty of Intel 8xxx and 9xxx laptops out there as well.
I wouldn't say the wait for 4xxx products is about Intel's control at this stage - the announcement was fairly early in the product cycle, so designs still ave to be assembled, tested and validated before they can be released to the market.
You're right that adoption up until now has been fairly pathetic, though.
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PeachNCream - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
Just curious, is it "Honor" or "honor" as the brand name? In most of the article it isn't given a capital letter except at the start of a sentence, but it is in the last line.ksec - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
Capital H, I guess the it is mostly an auto correct problem.PeachNCream - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
Probably so. A second set of eyes on the article content before publication would have likely identified the inconsistency though.Tabalan - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
I think their logo used to be honor, now it's HONOR.qlum - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
The official site also just refers to HONOR in all caps so I would assume that is the spelling they went for.brvnbld - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
why aren't any tech companies launching an ultra light and ultra slim notebooks?. eg - Ryzen 3 APU,2/4GB,64/128GB eMMC with Linux.(without touch).It should be a great VFM product with lot of usability for developers.
timecop1818 - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
Because ultraslim / ultralight and AMD doesn't mix. The platform sucks and no serious manufacturer wants to invest their money/time into developing something that noone is going to buy. It's pretty simple.Korguz - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
oh shut up intel shill..your so bias against amd its rediculoussonny73n - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
I had read a few of his comments. I don’t think he’s an Intel shill. He’s probably just a psycho thinking that he’s a cop who can travel back in time to arrest suspects right before the crimes being committed.Korguz - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
you sure ? go see his comment in the 64 core epyc threadSmell This - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
"" ... set to offer AMD Ryzen 5 systems globally from as low as £650 (estimated) ""_______________________________________________
The woods are full of AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 4/8 Vega 8 APUs at FHD with Samsung 256/512 SSD configurations at less than half that price.
And the Intel 14nm / 10nm laptops cannot compete.
igavus - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
As a developer - no thank you as far as ultraslims & ultralights go given current reality. I would actually like to use my CPU and not have it constantly throttled by thermal limits. Or deal with the acoustic nightmare that often is the byproduct of cooling as an afterthought. As most of the time, it's sitting on my desk anyhow and I'm totally unable to notice what it weighs or what the height is again. Who cares, but please, don't make my compiles slow and fans spin. Worst is the two together.ET - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Yeah, I'm not at all sure which developers would go for 2 core laptops with 2GB of RAM and 64GB storage. I find it strange that anyone would even consider 2GB reasonable these days.Not that I think it's bad to have thin and light laptops for development on the road. I've done some development on such laptops, and am certainly looking forward to Ryzen 4000 to hopefully get a good amount of CPU power in a small form factor.
ET - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
The very low cost, Atom based solutions are typically low power (with small batteries), and AMD didn't have until very recently anything in the sub-12W range. They are still no official Athlon Mobile variants on AMD's site with that power range, but the embedded variants have launched. So there's a chance we'll see more of those this year. (Not with Linux, though, most likely. Companies tend to prefer something that would sell.)For higher end, until Ryzen 4000 power and the lack of LPDDR were a limitation from taking Ryzen into even smaller form factors. Hopefully Ryzen 4000 will make some headway there.
MASSAMKULABOX - Sunday, March 1, 2020 - link
Linux WOULD sell , but all the people with Beards are going to be Killed off by CV19hetzbh - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
I just don't understand why would someone buy a laptop with a last gen (Ryzen 5 3500) APU when AMD and many vendors offer laptops with a current gen (Ryzen 4xxx) APU's.Rookierookie - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
Which vendors are offering Ryzen 4xxx APU laptops?AusMatt - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
Lenovo! See: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15543/lenovo-thinkp...AusMatt - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
OK. Not APU. Those are 4000 Pro. Could we have an edit function please?Rookierookie - Monday, February 24, 2020 - link
>The new ThinkPad T will be available in Q2From your own linked article.
yetanotherhuman - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
Yup, Zen+ based ones are dead in the water. Zen 2 is such a huge improvement.yankeeDDL - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
I agree, but vendors are taking forever to get the 4xxx out the door.Here in Spain Dell sells 2 (two) models with Ryzen 3xxx and 1 (one) with Ryzen 2xxx. Amazing how strong Intel's control is.
GreenReaper - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
I think you're underestimating how long the supply chain takes to deploy a product. The APUs only debuted at CES, and even if we just talk about the CPU side, those are relatively new. There are still plenty of Intel 8xxx and 9xxx laptops out there as well.haukionkannel - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
True... we can Expect those at the end of this year q3 and Q4...Spunjji - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
I wouldn't say the wait for 4xxx products is about Intel's control at this stage - the announcement was fairly early in the product cycle, so designs still ave to be assembled, tested and validated before they can be released to the market.You're right that adoption up until now has been fairly pathetic, though.