One can only hope that's the case. However, it looks like Gigabyte is using minimalism in design to create a higher premium tier over the gaudy premium tier. The brand name (whic unfortunately sounds a lot like derriere) and overall look-and-feel are intended to follow Apple's simple looking yet higher priced lead and appeal to this mythical new category of "creators" that has been the latest target of marketing efforts.
doubt that targeting will mean that the RGB bling crowd sees similar products in its premium categories. They will continue to get gaudy hardwareat current prices and this otehr price bracket will sreside ext up in the stack until demand side pull gives hanufacturers a resason to sit up and notice that RGB has run its course with their gaming segments. That may happen if/when gamer segment customers start buying minimalism creator products. If it does, it will also drive price increases baked into the creator category down to the gamer segment making it yet again more expensive to own a relatively powerful piece of computing equipment.
I swear I proofread that and it got butchered after submission. Sheesh...
"I doubt that targeting will mean that the RGB bling crowd sees similar products in its premium categories. They will continue to get gaudy hardware at current prices and this other price bracket will reside next up in the stack until demand side pull gives manufacturers a reason to sit up and notice that RGB has run its course with their gaming segments."
I know people seem to hate rgb nowadays... I have rgb.. I have set it to a single setup and haven't changed it over 3 years.. Its useful for manufacturers to give rgb at a higher cost than make multiple skews of the same product with different backlighting
Well, as minimalist as something can be given there's a big cosmetic slab stuck on there that serves no functional purpose (and violates the standard 30mm height).
I have to admit when I first read the title I was thinking these would look really bad. I was how ever surprised to find that in my own opinion look very good and depending on the price would actually not mind having these installed in my system when I do my next upgrade. It is to bad though that they have such horrible timings but I am sure there is some wiggle room to tighten the timings up a bit.
tis low latency, ultra low would be C14 or 12 (IMO) but 16 is "low" standard I suppose (for the most part) seems to be C18 (or higher) for 3200 class spec (though likely this has changed somewhat since they now have much higher speed DRAM for DDR4 these days.
course, 32gb per stick with C16 is still really solid depending on price point.
While I would get totally geeked if they could get this up to 3600 while keeping it at CL16, I am far more concerned about having that much memory in use at those tiny design rules and no ECC for dealing with SEU (Single Event Upset)? It seems to be more of a problem for SRAM, but DRAM must surely be dense enough to be causing a problem? It is a problem for CMOS image sensors that are used in satellites, for sure.
From a 2009 IEEE paper: "Current technologies are sensitive to low Linear Energy Transfer particles such as alphas. These particles can be spontaneously produced by some radioactive elements, called alpha-emitters. Here, we investigate two examples of emitters, Hafnium and Uranium. By calculating the disintegration rate in a modern technology with hafnium dioxide, we show that hafnium has no incidence on Soft Error Rate. Moreover, from Monte Carlo simulations, we point out that natural Uranium concentration in a silicon wafer lead to a Soft Error Rate comparable to that due to neutrons at ground level."
Not to mention cosmic rays for people who live at the altitude of Colorado Springs (for example), which I remember reading about in older literature.
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willis936 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Wow. A memory kit that isn't hideous. Is there a wave of minimalism coming to gamers?PeachNCream - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
One can only hope that's the case. However, it looks like Gigabyte is using minimalism in design to create a higher premium tier over the gaudy premium tier. The brand name (whic unfortunately sounds a lot like derriere) and overall look-and-feel are intended to follow Apple's simple looking yet higher priced lead and appeal to this mythical new category of "creators" that has been the latest target of marketing efforts.doubt that targeting will mean that the RGB bling crowd sees similar products in its premium categories. They will continue to get gaudy hardwareat current prices and this otehr price bracket will sreside ext up in the stack until demand side pull gives hanufacturers a resason to sit up and notice that RGB has run its course with their gaming segments. That may happen if/when gamer segment customers start buying minimalism creator products. If it does, it will also drive price increases baked into the creator category down to the gamer segment making it yet again more expensive to own a relatively powerful piece of computing equipment.
PeachNCream - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
I swear I proofread that and it got butchered after submission. Sheesh..."I doubt that targeting will mean that the RGB bling crowd sees similar products in its premium categories. They will continue to get gaudy hardware at current prices and this other price bracket will reside next up in the stack until demand side pull gives manufacturers a reason to sit up and notice that RGB has run its course with their gaming segments."
vivekvs1992 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
I know people seem to hate rgb nowadays... I have rgb.. I have set it to a single setup and haven't changed it over 3 years.. Its useful for manufacturers to give rgb at a higher cost than make multiple skews of the same product with different backlightingedzieba - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Well, as minimalist as something can be given there's a big cosmetic slab stuck on there that serves no functional purpose (and violates the standard 30mm height).willis936 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Are you referring to the heatsink?edzieba - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Yes. Unless you are still rocking DDR2 FBDIMMs, RAMsinks do nothing whatsoever functionally.MenhirMike - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
DDR4 DIMMs are specified as 31.25 mm tall, slightly taller than previous generations.ingwe - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Same thought. I really like the minimalist look.fred666 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
I hope the part number and memory size / speed is written on it tough. Maybe on the other side.lilkwarrior - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
That'd be great. Glass or great materials w/ minimalism would be nice like the Mac Pro.Targon - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
DDR4-3200 CL16....so relatively low end, probably Hynix.firewrath9 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Could be Micron E, which would be nicefirewrath9 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
wait nvm, there are no 16Gb Micron E diesSlash3 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
Could be Micron Rev.B, found on the refreshed Crucial Ballistix lineup.https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4...
rocky12345 - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
I have to admit when I first read the title I was thinking these would look really bad. I was how ever surprised to find that in my own opinion look very good and depending on the price would actually not mind having these installed in my system when I do my next upgrade. It is to bad though that they have such horrible timings but I am sure there is some wiggle room to tighten the timings up a bit.Makaveli - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
"Designare 32 GB memory that claims to offer both high speed and low latency.""DDR4-3200 mode with CL16 18-18-38 latency at 1.35 V"
That is not low latency.
Dragonstongue - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
tis low latency, ultra low would be C14 or 12 (IMO) but 16 is "low" standard I suppose (for the most part) seems to be C18 (or higher) for 3200 class spec (though likely this has changed somewhat since they now have much higher speed DRAM for DDR4 these days.course, 32gb per stick with C16 is still really solid depending on price point.
They do look ok (^.^)
Makaveli - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
There is no ultra low latency for me there is only low which is what I consider CL14.CL16 is average and CL18 is high.
TheWereCat - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
For 32GB sticks? That's a really good bin.jabber - Thursday, February 6, 2020 - link
mmmm RAM for the over 30's! I like. Continue with this trend across all hardware please.QQBoss - Friday, February 7, 2020 - link
While I would get totally geeked if they could get this up to 3600 while keeping it at CL16, I am far more concerned about having that much memory in use at those tiny design rules and no ECC for dealing with SEU (Single Event Upset)? It seems to be more of a problem for SRAM, but DRAM must surely be dense enough to be causing a problem? It is a problem for CMOS image sensors that are used in satellites, for sure.From a 2009 IEEE paper: "Current technologies are sensitive to low Linear Energy Transfer particles such as alphas. These particles can be spontaneously produced by some radioactive elements, called alpha-emitters. Here, we investigate two examples of emitters, Hafnium and Uranium. By calculating the disintegration rate in a modern technology with hafnium dioxide, we show that hafnium has no incidence on Soft Error Rate. Moreover, from Monte Carlo simulations, we point out that natural Uranium concentration in a silicon wafer lead to a Soft Error Rate comparable to that due to neutrons at ground level."
Not to mention cosmic rays for people who live at the altitude of Colorado Springs (for example), which I remember reading about in older literature.