Does this mean that we'll see 32GB single-dimm laptops with soldered memory now? Seems like soldered memory is limited to 16GB, at least for the slimmer lines of laptops.
Maybe, but I'm hoping not. Single channel memory leaves a bit of performance on the table due to the memory bottleneck. Sure its somewhat workload dependent, but it is a little annoying to get a nice new laptop that's hamstrung by a pennies-on-the-dollar shortcut the OEM took by using one instead of two SO-DIMMs.
There will still be plenty of low cost machines that can't go above 16GBs regardless of what the OEM wants. Intel limits their addressable space, such as in the brand new i3-10110y, to a max of 16GBs. Sure, that isn't an excuse for higher prices alternatives, but it still gets us a glimpse of what is on the minds of OEMs.
Also, for many common workloads, the performance difference is often times only detectable by benchmarks. Then again, there are still laptops shipping without any SSD. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/produc...
That's a good point, I'd want dual-channel memory too. What about those Dell 15" OLED laptops? They seems great, except they are limited to 16GB... I believe one DIMM. If only they put two DIMMS in them.
I'm not paying $3,000 for a laptop if it's still limited to 16GB. 16GB is 'ok', but not enough for a full gaming machine these days if you mod games and all of that.
But if the slots are removed then the laptop can be made even more compact, or with a bigger battery, or thinner etc. SODIMM slots are humongous relative to the size of some ultrabook motherboards, and sometimes it's worth sacrificing upgradeability for portability. Especially when 80% of consumers will never open up their laptop anyway
Wonder if these would be compatible with the Xeon E3 1245-V5 I have installed in my server PC. it can handle a max of 64gb of RAM, and I've currently have 32. I've been in need for more RAM for a while now...
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Techtree101 - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Does this mean that we'll see 32GB single-dimm laptops with soldered memory now? Seems like soldered memory is limited to 16GB, at least for the slimmer lines of laptops.PeachNCream - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Maybe, but I'm hoping not. Single channel memory leaves a bit of performance on the table due to the memory bottleneck. Sure its somewhat workload dependent, but it is a little annoying to get a nice new laptop that's hamstrung by a pennies-on-the-dollar shortcut the OEM took by using one instead of two SO-DIMMs.Robert Pankiw - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
There will still be plenty of low cost machines that can't go above 16GBs regardless of what the OEM wants. Intel limits their addressable space, such as in the brand new i3-10110y, to a max of 16GBs. Sure, that isn't an excuse for higher prices alternatives, but it still gets us a glimpse of what is on the minds of OEMs.Also, for many common workloads, the performance difference is often times only detectable by benchmarks. Then again, there are still laptops shipping without any SSD.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/produc...
Techtree101 - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
That's a good point, I'd want dual-channel memory too. What about those Dell 15" OLED laptops? They seems great, except they are limited to 16GB... I believe one DIMM. If only they put two DIMMS in them.Techtree101 - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
This one for instance only support 2x8GB, instead of the expected 2x16GB: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gaming-and-games/n...I'm not paying $3,000 for a laptop if it's still limited to 16GB. 16GB is 'ok', but not enough for a full gaming machine these days if you mod games and all of that.
Hul8 - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
I don't think you can call it a "module" if it's soldered on the motherboard...yetanotherhuman - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
I long for the days when laptops had 2 SO-DIMM slots.deil - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
IF you take something 17'inch they will.in 15 inch you need to checck,
in anything smaller don't even waste your time.
antonkochubey - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
There are plenty of 14" and 13" laptops with 2 SO-DIMM slots, and even some 12" ones.https://geizhals.eu/?cat=nb&xf=12826_2%7E2377_...
Retycint - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
But if the slots are removed then the laptop can be made even more compact, or with a bigger battery, or thinner etc. SODIMM slots are humongous relative to the size of some ultrabook motherboards, and sometimes it's worth sacrificing upgradeability for portability. Especially when 80% of consumers will never open up their laptop anywaysmilingcrow - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
My 13 inch Dell has 2 slots.Xyler94 - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
Wonder if these would be compatible with the Xeon E3 1245-V5 I have installed in my server PC. it can handle a max of 64gb of RAM, and I've currently have 32. I've been in need for more RAM for a while now...