Given that the stand is $99 and nearly 50% of the users taking part in development said they'd use their own VESA mounts I'd say that's a decent compromise.
I already have a decent (dual display) VESA arm that did cost much more than $99 and if I were to buy a monitor the included stand would be useless. As long as people understand what they're buying and not complain when there's no stand included.
Agree, at least as long as there's an easy option to buy a suitable, affordable and decently featured stand - as there is here. $99 isn't the cheapest stand out there, but its design and features still make it a decent deal.
Buy a monitor arm, wich can even be expanded, by buying even more segments. You will never look back to even the best stands and they will never be an issue for you again. Plus you save a lot of space on your desk. Ergotron or the Amazon licensed ones are perfect.
I had an Ergotron for a few years and then got rid of it. I may have only really used the free-adjustments a few times and the only thing that made having it worthwhile-ish was that my center speaker could actually be center, but it's not really a hard advantage.
Besides that, I'm short enough that my monitors have to basically be at their lowest level anyway to comfortably work with them for extended periods of time.
That's not a low price. A low price would be £120.
By now 1080p should be a thing of the past but, as always, companies will stick an artificial price onto items and we'll lap them up as some type of gift/value.
We've had 1080p for YEARS. 4k should now be a standard. But... if people are happy to pay the price... .
These are 1440p monitors not 1080p. I will take a 1440p monitor on a 27" all day every day over a 4k. There is no reason to have 4k in that small of a monitor. It is pointless. You are much better off with a 1440p with a higher refresh rate and they are MUCH easier to drive.
Agreed, 4k for gaming makes no sense whatsoever. It does have benefits for text rendering and anyone working with images of various kinds, but... well, there's the 4k144Hz option for those people. For anyone else 1440p looks as good in games on pretty much any screen while requiring roughly half the GPU power.
For what kind of use? Gaming? I don't doubt that it can be seen when looking for it on a mostly static image, but in motion, particularly the rapid motion you would expect for a high refresh rate monitor? Sorry, not buying that.
You don't have to, but it's true for those of us for whom it's true. I can spot the difference in games quite easily - that's not a brag, just an observation.
Even so, for now I'd use this at native resolution for the Windows desktop and up-scaled from 1440p for games, knowing that when the hardware finally arrives for good 4K performance the monitor will be up to the job.
You do realize that fonts/text is much sharper and has less aliasing at 4K when just even doing normal web browsing or working with code, spreadsheet, pdf, and other documents, right?
Yes, gaming at 4K takes a hit in FPS, but you can easily compensate by doing nearest neighbor scaling and using it as a 1080p 144hz (not what I would do, personally), or adjusting taxing settings down or off alltogether ("but WAHHHH, I can't run my entertainment at MAX settings, this voids any entertainment value of the game!!!!"), which is what I would do.
I regularly turn off AA features (honestly I only ever play games where I'm constantly moving, and sample-and-hold LCD monitors already have motion-blur as a fact-of-life feature more or less, and the picture doesn't need an extra coat of blur when I'm trying to identify moving objects quickly. Also turn off other garbage settings like motion blur, turn down some obnoxious particle/lighting settings that make it impossible to see.
Given that orders can be cancelled at any point up until production, I'm tempted to put down a deposit even if I was mostly looking at something bigger/ultrawide to replace/complement my aging U2711. Specs and features look great, especially for the price. The 240Hz seems a no-brainer simply for the higher brightness/better HDR though.
There's no local dimming (not even edge-dimming, let alone a proper FALD backlight array), so there's nothing HDR about it beyond the label on the box. Contrast ratio will be limited to the 1000:1 of the panel itself.
Tl;dr Apparently the company has refused to honor their Eve-V (Surface clone) orders back from 2017, citing a change of ownership(of the company) and telling people to look for the new owners. Apprently they also stopped responding to emails altogether. Smells really fishy
Can actually handle the RMA rates? Enthusiast that are willing to give a new brand a chance will also expect nothing short of a perfect panel when it comes to panel lottery.
I wish them best of luck but this effort is more likely destined to fail profit wise.
I also find it hard to believe LG is selling them their grade A panels at a cheap enough price for Eve to make profit.
I already know the panels will have backlight bleeding. ALL the so-called gaming moniitors from all brands have it, there has been a generalized lack in quality coming out from those panel makers (Asus, Acer, LG) for some years.
I'll wait for the reviews. There are way too many under par electronic devices out into the wild (see Asus monitors) but with overwhelming PR and publicity. Besides, out of principle I don't pre-order.
This company is a scam and have robbed several hundred to thousands of people. Remember the December 2017 Flash Sale of the Eve V, I and many, many other people had our money stolen by this company and they have never owned it or paid any of it back. Stay away from this company and all of their products.
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ingwe - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Good to see a low price 144 Hz 4K monitor.xenol - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Unfortunately it's the pre-order price and they're doing the Apple thing by selling the stand separately it looks like.Valantar - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Given that the stand is $99 and nearly 50% of the users taking part in development said they'd use their own VESA mounts I'd say that's a decent compromise.damianrobertjones - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
if they're selling the stand separately, out of principle, I simply would not buy the item.sandtitz - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
I already have a decent (dual display) VESA arm that did cost much more than $99 and if I were to buy a monitor the included stand would be useless.As long as people understand what they're buying and not complain when there's no stand included.
Valantar - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Agree, at least as long as there's an easy option to buy a suitable, affordable and decently featured stand - as there is here. $99 isn't the cheapest stand out there, but its design and features still make it a decent deal.Beaver M. - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Buy a monitor arm, wich can even be expanded, by buying even more segments. You will never look back to even the best stands and they will never be an issue for you again. Plus you save a lot of space on your desk.Ergotron or the Amazon licensed ones are perfect.
xenol - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
I had an Ergotron for a few years and then got rid of it. I may have only really used the free-adjustments a few times and the only thing that made having it worthwhile-ish was that my center speaker could actually be center, but it's not really a hard advantage.Besides that, I'm short enough that my monitors have to basically be at their lowest level anyway to comfortably work with them for extended periods of time.
Spunjji - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Weird flex when you could just, you know, buy the stand they're offering or use your own.damianrobertjones - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
That's not a low price. A low price would be £120.By now 1080p should be a thing of the past but, as always, companies will stick an artificial price onto items and we'll lap them up as some type of gift/value.
We've had 1080p for YEARS. 4k should now be a standard. But... if people are happy to pay the price... .
sircolby45 - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
These are 1440p monitors not 1080p. I will take a 1440p monitor on a 27" all day every day over a 4k. There is no reason to have 4k in that small of a monitor. It is pointless. You are much better off with a 1440p with a higher refresh rate and they are MUCH easier to drive.Valantar - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Agreed, 4k for gaming makes no sense whatsoever. It does have benefits for text rendering and anyone working with images of various kinds, but... well, there's the 4k144Hz option for those people. For anyone else 1440p looks as good in games on pretty much any screen while requiring roughly half the GPU power.eek2121 - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
As someone who has placed 4K and 1440p monitors of equal size side by side, I disagree 100%. The 4K image is sharper and more detailed.That being said, looks like my existing pair of 4K monitors might be getting an upgrade.
Valantar - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
For what kind of use? Gaming? I don't doubt that it can be seen when looking for it on a mostly static image, but in motion, particularly the rapid motion you would expect for a high refresh rate monitor? Sorry, not buying that.Spunjji - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
You don't have to, but it's true for those of us for whom it's true. I can spot the difference in games quite easily - that's not a brag, just an observation.Even so, for now I'd use this at native resolution for the Windows desktop and up-scaled from 1440p for games, knowing that when the hardware finally arrives for good 4K performance the monitor will be up to the job.
JoeyJoJo123 - Saturday, February 1, 2020 - link
You do realize that fonts/text is much sharper and has less aliasing at 4K when just even doing normal web browsing or working with code, spreadsheet, pdf, and other documents, right?Yes, gaming at 4K takes a hit in FPS, but you can easily compensate by doing nearest neighbor scaling and using it as a 1080p 144hz (not what I would do, personally), or adjusting taxing settings down or off alltogether ("but WAHHHH, I can't run my entertainment at MAX settings, this voids any entertainment value of the game!!!!"), which is what I would do.
I regularly turn off AA features (honestly I only ever play games where I'm constantly moving, and sample-and-hold LCD monitors already have motion-blur as a fact-of-life feature more or less, and the picture doesn't need an extra coat of blur when I'm trying to identify moving objects quickly. Also turn off other garbage settings like motion blur, turn down some obnoxious particle/lighting settings that make it impossible to see.
Spunjji - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
It's a low price *for a 4K 144Hz monitor with a high-quality panel*. The cheapest competitor here in the UK is £899.Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
We don't yet know if it's a high-quality panel.Great_Scott - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
True. Get a good deal on a 4K/144Hz monitor right now, have a video card that can take advantage of it in maybe 5 years.lilkwarrior - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
… But it’s HDR600 & doesn’t have HDMI 2.1, so it’s pretty questionable in 2020 for mep1esk - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
This one will compete with Asus XG27UQ, which hopefully comes out this quarter.Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Compete? The ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQ is an overpriced pos with "HDR" 400, selling for 980€.Valantar - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Given that orders can be cancelled at any point up until production, I'm tempted to put down a deposit even if I was mostly looking at something bigger/ultrawide to replace/complement my aging U2711. Specs and features look great, especially for the price. The 240Hz seems a no-brainer simply for the higher brightness/better HDR though.edzieba - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
There's no local dimming (not even edge-dimming, let alone a proper FALD backlight array), so there's nothing HDR about it beyond the label on the box. Contrast ratio will be limited to the 1000:1 of the panel itself.g3m1n1 - Monday, February 10, 2020 - link
Don't trust these people, seriously.https://www.reddit.com/r/evev/comments/duglie/thos...
TristanSDX - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
let they make 4K 240Hz, LCD tech is ready, connections too (DP1.4 with DSC)nevcairiel - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
You willingly want to invest into DSC, instead of waiting one more generation and get no lossy compression?HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.0 really should hurry it up. Otherwise these screens look rather good, especially for their prices.
Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Those kinds of monitors will sell for $1500+DigitalFreak - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
... and what magical video card do you have that can drive a 4k 240Hz display at anything other than Ultra Low settings?azrael- - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Anyone even considering pre-ordering one of these monitors should take a look at: https://www.reddit.com/r/evev/comments/duglie/thos...sircolby45 - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Oh wow...OofMTEK - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Welp, guess I'm not buying from them. Thanks!eek2121 - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Jesus...Retycint - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Tl;dr Apparently the company has refused to honor their Eve-V (Surface clone) orders back from 2017, citing a change of ownership(of the company) and telling people to look for the new owners. Apprently they also stopped responding to emails altogether. Smells really fishySpunjji - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
I feel like this issue would have been nice to see mentioned at least in passing in the article, rather than the comments.Spunjji - Wednesday, January 29, 2020 - link
Thanks BTW. I was mulling a pre-order; now, not so much.Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
Pre-ordering is basically paying in advance and you could be paying for anything, even just the JPG image of the product.Cellar Door - Tuesday, January 28, 2020 - link
Can actually handle the RMA rates? Enthusiast that are willing to give a new brand a chance will also expect nothing short of a perfect panel when it comes to panel lottery.I wish them best of luck but this effort is more likely destined to fail profit wise.
I also find it hard to believe LG is selling them their grade A panels at a cheap enough price for Eve to make profit.
GreenReaper - Thursday, January 30, 2020 - link
Of course, if you take pre-orders and don't give refunds for non-delivery, it's fairly easy to turn a profit.Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
I already know the panels will have backlight bleeding. ALL the so-called gaming moniitors from all brands have it, there has been a generalized lack in quality coming out from those panel makers (Asus, Acer, LG) for some years.Gastec - Tuesday, February 4, 2020 - link
I'll wait for the reviews. There are way too many under par electronic devices out into the wild (see Asus monitors) but with overwhelming PR and publicity. Besides, out of principle I don't pre-order.g3m1n1 - Monday, February 10, 2020 - link
This company is a scam and have robbed several hundred to thousands of people. Remember the December 2017 Flash Sale of the Eve V, I and many, many other people had our money stolen by this company and they have never owned it or paid any of it back. Stay away from this company and all of their products.