"Art Basel Miami highlights the best new work from the world’s contemporary artists, many of whom toil away at their craft, painstakingly, hoping to create something new and innovative under the sun. But naturally all anyone can talk about is the guy who taped a $120,000 banana to the wall and the other guy who ate it."
It's a meme, there was this guy a few months ago who made "art" with a banana taped to a wall or something like that, afterwards, lots of brands did the same with their products mocking the aforementioned "artist".
I think in this case it is the internet meme of "Banana for scale". It originated from someone trying to sell a TV online and lacking a tape measure when someone asked how big it was they grabbed a banana and set it on top.
So what? What if I move back or forward. Unless that curve is actively managed by measuring the distance between my eye and the screen, its a pretty meaningless selling point.
A 1m curve actually gets into the normal seating distance for a computer monitor; depending on your exact distance it might be under or overcurved. Earlier generations with 1.5-2m curves were undercurved at all reasonable seating distances.
I've mentioned it on here before, but 3D rasterisation is generally calculated to be "correct" for a flat screen (at least if you make the FOV of the screen equal to the projection FOV, which is generally not true, the screen FOV is usually smaller). This means a curved screen without changes to the graphics driver settings could actually produce some odd effects - it won't make it more "accurate" as far as I can tell.
Although it might make the distance of a wide screen from the eye constant and thus reduce eyestrain from refocussing or having the ends of the screen effectively slanting away from you.
"Matches the curvature of the eye" - now that's some BS. First off, humans tend to have two eyes, and they have the annoying tendency to not be occupying the same space. Matching the curvature of both at once with a single 3D object thus becomes impossible. Beyond that, isn't matching the curvature of the cornea (which I guess is what they mean?) entirely dependent on how far away and how big the screen is? If we simplify the cornea's shape to be a part of a perfect sphere, any curved display with a constant curvature would at some point match its curvature per degree. I guess what they're trying to say is that "at normal viewing distances this is more immersive" or some such, but marketing people do love their hyperbolic statements of things somehow "matching" human physiology and similar silly concepts.
Are there large (21:9 or more) flat or rounded monitors that have IPS (not PVA) panel and have high resolution, not necessarily high frequency? Something that can be use for serious use, not simply gaming?
"PVA panel". Is that a Polyvinyl Alcohol display? Or is it yet another "sounds like VA but isn't" abbreviation like WVA? If so, given that WVA means "wide viewing angle," is this "poor viewing angle"?
DOA to me without HLG, HDR10+, & Dolby Vision. With ASTC 3.0 imminent, what's the point of having monitors like this without those features to consume premium content at a premium monitor price? This isn't even considering HDMI 2.1 & Displayport 2.0.
Monitor market is all out of whack making TVs the way to go or paying $$$ for proper monitors that'll last properly 3-6 years before you upgrade them.
How do you screw up a launch so badly that one month before it is available you don't even know the screen curvature? The product has a 1500R curvature.....
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Tchamber - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
I don't get the banana taped to the screen, what purpose does it serve?Pix2Go - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
"Art Basel Miami highlights the best new work from the world’s contemporary artists, many of whom toil away at their craft, painstakingly, hoping to create something new and innovative under the sun. But naturally all anyone can talk about is the guy who taped a $120,000 banana to the wall and the other guy who ate it."Tchamber - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
Ahhh... I remember that, thanks for the reminder!CONIN - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
It's a meme, there was this guy a few months ago who made "art" with a banana taped to a wall or something like that, afterwards, lots of brands did the same with their products mocking the aforementioned "artist".FreckledTrout - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
Red, Green, Banana.Ikefu - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
I think in this case it is the internet meme of "Banana for scale". It originated from someone trying to sell a TV online and lacking a tape measure when someone asked how big it was they grabbed a banana and set it on top.irwige - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
This.I LOLd in my cubicle at work when I saw the banana taped to the screen. We need this in all reviews!
GreenReaper - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
Comparison of the curvature? ^_^PeachNCream - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
It matches the curvature of an eye.So what? What if I move back or forward. Unless that curve is actively managed by measuring the distance between my eye and the screen, its a pretty meaningless selling point.
DanNeely - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
A 1m curve actually gets into the normal seating distance for a computer monitor; depending on your exact distance it might be under or overcurved. Earlier generations with 1.5-2m curves were undercurved at all reasonable seating distances.peevee - Monday, January 27, 2020 - link
Just not as undercurved as monitors with curvature radius of ∞.stephenbrooks - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
I've mentioned it on here before, but 3D rasterisation is generally calculated to be "correct" for a flat screen (at least if you make the FOV of the screen equal to the projection FOV, which is generally not true, the screen FOV is usually smaller). This means a curved screen without changes to the graphics driver settings could actually produce some odd effects - it won't make it more "accurate" as far as I can tell.Although it might make the distance of a wide screen from the eye constant and thus reduce eyestrain from refocussing or having the ends of the screen effectively slanting away from you.
p1esk - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
The recently announced Samsung Odyssey seems to be better in every way.Valantar - Friday, January 24, 2020 - link
Not if you think 32:9 is too wide.Valantar - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
"Matches the curvature of the eye" - now that's some BS. First off, humans tend to have two eyes, and they have the annoying tendency to not be occupying the same space. Matching the curvature of both at once with a single 3D object thus becomes impossible. Beyond that, isn't matching the curvature of the cornea (which I guess is what they mean?) entirely dependent on how far away and how big the screen is? If we simplify the cornea's shape to be a part of a perfect sphere, any curved display with a constant curvature would at some point match its curvature per degree. I guess what they're trying to say is that "at normal viewing distances this is more immersive" or some such, but marketing people do love their hyperbolic statements of things somehow "matching" human physiology and similar silly concepts.FreckledTrout - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
It more matches the eye than the typical flat screen but I agree the marketing is a bit overboard. I won't blame them if it sells more monitors.TheWereCat - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
you're supposed to buy two of these monitorsHolliday75 - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
LOLZValantar - Friday, January 24, 2020 - link
Do they make a kit to head mount them? XDirwige - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link
Banana for Scale.Love it!
CiccioB - Friday, January 24, 2020 - link
Are there large (21:9 or more) flat or rounded monitors that have IPS (not PVA) panel and have high resolution, not necessarily high frequency?Something that can be use for serious use, not simply gaming?
Valantar - Friday, January 24, 2020 - link
LG has heaps of ultrawides that IIRC are all IPS (isn't IPS an LG patent or some such?). The 38" ones tend to have higher resolutions than 3440*1440.Valantar - Friday, January 24, 2020 - link
"PVA panel". Is that a Polyvinyl Alcohol display? Or is it yet another "sounds like VA but isn't" abbreviation like WVA? If so, given that WVA means "wide viewing angle," is this "poor viewing angle"?lilkwarrior - Monday, January 27, 2020 - link
DOA to me without HLG, HDR10+, & Dolby Vision. With ASTC 3.0 imminent, what's the point of having monitors like this without those features to consume premium content at a premium monitor price? This isn't even considering HDMI 2.1 & Displayport 2.0.Monitor market is all out of whack making TVs the way to go or paying $$$ for proper monitors that'll last properly 3-6 years before you upgrade them.
jtrox - Friday, February 5, 2021 - link
How do you screw up a launch so badly that one month before it is available you don't even know the screen curvature? The product has a 1500R curvature.....