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  • JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - link

    Looks pretty good for a compact desktop. Especially for people who wanted something ultra-compact, but was dreading/anxious about the parts compatibility and complicated build process that ultra-compact builds mini-ITX builds can sometimes involve.
  • drexnx - Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - link

    cool form factor, but I bet it sounds like a hairdryer under full load. Not many options when it comes to dumping 200w of heat out of a little box
  • goatfajitas - Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - link

    I was interested in it with some slightly lower specs until I found this... https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-EN72070V-Creator-i7-9...

    $1800 seems steep.
  • fred666 - Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - link

    Worst of both worlds. Laptop components, not upgradable/repairable easily and not very portable.

    Would make more sense to make it a little bigger and put real desktop CPU and GPU.
  • damianrobertjones - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    With an 8 core, as well as a 2080, I'd probably think that you wouldn't need to change it for quite a few years.
  • fred666 - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link

    then get a gaming laptop with the same components.
  • yankeeDDL - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    Complaining for the sake of complaining.
    It is a tiny case, designed for specific purposes. If you need desktop components and upgradeability, you need a desktop.
  • Strunf - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    It's not a little bigger it's a lot bigger... If you want to be able to replace the CPU or GPU may as well just buy/build a Micro-ATX/Mini-ITX system.
  • fred666 - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link

    well that's my point. If you need portability, get a laptop. If you don't, get a desktop.
    I can't find any practical use case for this system.
  • sorten - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    This is a product going after a very small market. If the best they could manage is gaming laptop levels of heat dissipation, and you're getting non-upgradable components and gaming laptop prices, then most people would just pick the gaming laptop.
  • damianrobertjones - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    Is this for Creators? I need to know! If it's not for Creators then I'm not interested as I, myself, am a creator. /s

    I jest. I just assume that all marketing departments are jumping full steam into the 'Creator' buzz word. Damn nice machine and, being honest, Intel should hurry up with their latest and greatest nuc machines.
  • Dug - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    Nope. You can't use it. I can't find the word creator anywhere in the manual.
  • QChronoD - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    So assuming that this uses one of those giant DC bricks for power, then it wouldn't be that difficult to mount this and a reasonably heavy battery pack onto a backpack frame and make your own portable VR system. It might seem expensive compared to a regular desktop machine with a 20ft cable, but it's almost certainly going to be cheaper than custom designed portable VR systems.
  • milleron - Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - link

    Any flight sim devotees who would hazard a guess as to whether this Zbox will be up to running MS Flight Simulator 2020 in 4K?
  • PeachNCream - Thursday, January 23, 2020 - link

    I'm sure it'l be more than capable. Every version of FS I've touched (starting with 4.0) has run on garbage hardware. MS has historically set the bar fairly low to make Flight Sim as accessible as possible on a wide range of computers. I guess you could waIt around before making a purchase, but a top end GPU, even a mobile one, had better be able to push the new version around at 4K.

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