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  • 1_rick - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link

    Chart shows 2 USB Type-C but the picture only shows one.
  • Alistair - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link

    too bad not ice lake
  • azfacea - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link

    ice lake is a slide not a real CPU. you cant build a real PC using slides
  • surt - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Powerpoint is Turing complete. You sure as heck can build a real PC using slides.
  • yeeeeman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    It is a slide you say? Ok, then I'll on Amazon and buy myself a dell XPS 13 slide notebook.
  • HideOut - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    I think the real issue is availabilty. So few are made right now they are mostly going to the largest OEMs for use in holiday releases right now. I would think it'd be far beter with a 10x series chip though.
  • nandnandnand - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Intel = no go
  • imaheadcase - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Good logic /rolls eyes
  • Smell This - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link


    The woods are not quite full of SFF/UCFF PCs, but an AT **Deep Dive Smack-Down** between Chipzillah and DAAMIT could top 500 posts ...
  • Qasar - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    probably not enough ice lake cpus to go around still....
  • yeeeeman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Ice lake is more expensive.
  • azfacea - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link

    lemme guess HDMI is 1.4 because intel still cant do hdmi 2.0 direct from iGPU lol
  • austinsguitar - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    this really is what kills this thing for me...
  • Kangal - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    I thought the Intel Iris 620/UHD was capable of driving HDR-4K-60Hz for HDMI 2.0
    I kinda wished they opted for Ryzen instead (3400G/1600/3500X). And if they installed an internal PCIe slot, one that people can later stick a Riser Slot, and connect it to a dGPU. We know sooner or later these Office PCs are going to end up in dumpsters or sold for $100. Would've been neat as a HTPC when combined with a cheap GPU.

    Case in point; for USD $240 I got a (8.4L) HTPC running a GTX 1050 Ti and a Core i7-3770 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD based on an old Dell Optiplex SFF office pc. That's great value competing against the likes Xbox 360, PS3, WiiU, Switch, Shield TV for cabinet space and spare change. It is basically as fast as a $2,000 Gaming PC back in 2011, and now that I said that it feels like a lifetime away.
  • nevcairiel - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Comparing an 8.4L PC with a 0.74L office system seems like apples and oranges.
  • imaheadcase - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    A HTPC doesn't need all that. Its sole purpose is to stream media content. This is plenty capable of doing that.
  • imaheadcase - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    It doesn't matter for this so why would they. lol
  • fazalmajid - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Digital signage demands fanless, so this is not it.
  • yetanotherhuman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    If its name is Mars, surely it should be a mushroom shaped add-on to another PC...
  • chipped - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    CPU is too old, should have a 10th Gen. LAME
  • imaheadcase - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    Its not told old for its intended use.
  • deil - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    why the **************************** **************************** ****************************** *********** waste space for DSUB in 2019?
  • milkywayer - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    It's targeted for office use where they recycle vga monitors to this day.
  • PeachNCream - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    It looks a lot like those Atom n270-based nettops that were on the budget end of the spectrum years ago and about the same physical size so I'm not sure if case dimensions ought to be a centerpiece of marketing attempts. Also Intel had the Skull-whatever NUC for sale with similar interior volume. Size is unremarkable in this case and because of the good, but uninteresting hardware, I think the marketing department was forced to scab around a bit at the bottom of the barrel for something that might be eye-catching to send out in a press release.
  • dromoxen - Friday, November 29, 2019 - link

    Its ok but lacks lacks chops in the gfx dept .. otherwise everything else is ok ..gotta get a deskmini 3400G instead .
    It also lacks a goats head skull in backlit leds on the front :TM: LOL
  • Smell This - Friday, November 29, 2019 - link


    _/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_
    *A whole lot of this*

    A Ryzen 5 'Picasso' 3500U//3550H mobile with a 'Vega 8' graphics engine is likely to slobber-knock anything from 15_ to 35w.

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