After years on Android, and a set of Android Apps and Services that I own via the Play Store (or because they come with the phone), the lack of Google Services and the Play Store is a critical piece of missing functionality.
Indeed I'd say that this is not Android at all, Android for most people being the combination of core operating system and Google Services.
Exactly, the whole point of a android phone is to have google services. Anything else you are are developers whim in updates to OS and apps. Which if anyone who got burned by Samsung tablets know..its not pretty.
There's something to be said for there being an alternative to the Google monopoly in that respect. Let's hope that something like that emerges from this fiasco.
Vendor lock-in does not even begin to describe what the US government is enforcing on the mobile phone users around the world. If at one time it was Apple or Microsoft or some other OS maker, now it is a political and economical system that the US government and Google want to lock the world in. That said, a mobile phone is nothing but Browser as OS. And the entire Google offering is nothing but open web technologies. The half hearthed attempts at something different from Google never added up to much because they always chose Google to fall back on from the get go. With Huawei on the one side and the general drift of the Western world towards Trumpism and the asinine single mindedness of what passes for American political and economical infrastructure, we are going to witness many wonderful shifts towards true freedom and innovation around the world and Huawei is just a very wonderful start.
I hope Huawei has problems. The Chinese have been stealing secrets for some time, and Huawei is benefiting from that. In fact, early this year, two Apple vendors in China stated that they had been approached by Huawei for just that purpose.
Can't me in the group that detests curved screens. Don't copy Samsung's mistakes. Every time I use a flat version, it feels and looks much better. Even the S10e vs the S10, or the Oneplus 7T vs 7 Pro, much better.
My Note 8 has the same screen as the Note 9. Can't say the curvature bothers me... But then I also have a Galaxy Note 10+ and it actually bothers me there.
It was less pronounced on older devices and had no case issues with my Note 8.
Yes. Curved screens are simply a ploy to make phones more easily damaged, and remove the possibility of having a well-fitting screen protector or case. Curved screens, forget 'em.
Huawei sells to all over the world, including entire Europe and India. There is no international law says you can not sell phones to Iran, US can whine and moan all she wants but Huawei is free to do business with whoever they want because they are not a US company. The world is bigger than US, even if US bans Huawei (not because Huawei sells to Iran but rather Huawei is ahead in 5G technology), there is still rest of the world buying Huawei 5G. It's also pretty ironic and a slap to the face to a country which promotes free market when itself is doing the opposite. But I guess it's all okay because there are plenty of pathetic brainwashed losers in the US thinking they are the center of the world.
What you say is true, but there is also no international law that says US has to do business with Huawei if the US doesn't like what Huawei is doing. As such, the US decided to ban Huawei so that other companies will do what the US wants them to do (or not do). Basically, if you want to do business in China, you must in general follow China's instructions. If you want to do business in the US, you must follow US instructions. To do both you must be able to balance the two without angering either, which I guess is becoming harder.
Also, like it or not, the US is currently the center of the world, otherwise US ban of Huawei would have literally no effect. No one cares if say Iran bans your product, but many people do care if the US bans your product (or hinders it in some way).
except... it doesn't really have that much of an effect. Huawei still remains as the largest telecommunications company and their stocks haven't drastically crashed either...
Didn't they say they have a year supply of parts? If that is the case, then it would be a year at minimum for there to be any major effect. Also, to amend my previous statement, the US has not actually banned Huawei yet because they keep giving them 3 month exemptions which basically pauses the ban. Because the exemptions keep happening, people are more relaxed and think it will continue forever, sort of like Brexit.
LOL, that's because the expectation is they'll get a reprieve like ZTE did. If USA went nuclear and just banned Huawei from the SWIFT banking system, Huawei stock would be worthless over night.
USA has a huge number of ways of damaging a corporation, much more than China. China can only ban you from selling in China, USA can essentially ban you from doing business in the entire world using their 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon if they want to go nuclear.
"China can only ban you from selling in China“ Don't underestimate the Party, they stalled anti-trust probes of other companies twice(Motorola and Qualcomm) in retaliation to investigations into Huawei's IP theft and each time did a lot of damage. Their unique advantage is that they could hit you in ways you never thought possible.
"There is no international law says you can not sell phones to Iran, US can whine and moan all she wants but Huawei is free to do business with whoever they want because they are not a US company" Says the Huawei drone? Then who gave the CCP the right to block the Motorola-Nokia Siemens and NXP-Qualcomm mergers incurring hundreds of millions of damages when all the rest of the world gave the green light? None of those companies are Chinese.
whole Family have been Huawei users for the last few years however not any more the mate 20 pros curve was just tolerable this one seems way to much and yes lack of banking apps etc is a total deal breaker for us
My Mate 20 is flawless. Got a seriously good deal from Virgin in BC Canada and its the best phone I've ever had. My previous phone, a P10 was the best, until I picked up the Mate 20. All the Google crap is there. Still sideloading is easy.
Without side-loading APKs or installing Google Play Services, what's available on the device? Is the Huawei app store any good, or is it like Samsung's store (most of the big stuff, but nowhere near everything)?
I suspect you're right, but I'd like to know for sure. I think a casual user could get away with the Amazon Appstore, and maybe even the Galaxy Store, but not anything less than that. I'd like to know, for example, how many of the top 50 apps on the Play Store are available on the Huawei store.
New SD card type. Ugh. Who do they think they are, Sony? MicroSD is small enough. It works. They're cheap, and everywhere, up to unbelievably large sizes. Let's not mess with it.
why only ever compare the Mate 30 P to the P30 P?? how does it compare to the iPhone 11 or Pixel etc. you have all the photos but then only compare the 2 Huawei's?? iPhone has more smearing especially in foliage and fine detail imho but really hoped the review would go beyond just the 2 Huawei's in terms of camera comparison...
"a unique 90° curved screen on its sides – a first not only for Huawei but for the smartphone market overall" ...IIRC NEX 3 with the same screen curve design was launched 3 days before this model. But the comments regarding the ergonomics certainly push me further towards the ROGP2.
"The new sensor is a native 16:9 unit" really surprises me as I thought it was a 3:2, since it shoots stills in 3:2, in this case the 4:3 crop in night mode would be even more of a compromise cutting out a larger portion of the sensor, essentially highlighting how severe the falloff and in cam shadow lifting is. But this doesn't explain the poor DR of the new unit.
If I were shooting an UWA I'd probably prefer a narrower one, as the ~12mm FoV is overdramatic and incredibly difficult to master, but this isn't the main issue as I don't believe a significantly relevant proportion of users of these ultimately consumer devices actually understand photography enough to have that in mind.
The night mode on the UWA still has severe smearing that hasn't been resolved, especially obvious in the shot of the theater, whose exacerbation in edges and corners under a certain lighting threshold is observable in the 2nd sample on the stairs, so what I observed from GSMA's very few night samples turns out to be universal, that the UWA night mode on this big big sensor is actually worse than Samsung's tiny tiny sensor with a far wider FoV. Peculiar.
So the conclusion here is: When not much FoV is needed, DR isn't too extreme, and lighting is either sufficient enough not to need night mode or lacking enough that Samsung's tiny sensor tends to capture no data, this new UWA has the advantage.
A minor detail regarding "The ISO51200 of the sensor in the regular mode is able to get better results than the image stacking of ISO1600 pictures in night mode." The ISO1600 is probably calculated from the accumulated shutter durations of the burst, I don't believe it's likely that a burst could be captured without vibration under this lighting with each shot at ISO1600.
Finally, I was expecting a sprinkler test of the "7680fps", and preferably a test on effective video resolution, shame this wasn't included.
Yeah I know, just that a running tap was too slow, while a sprinkler test would yield more as to how the interpolation is done, e.g. the NPU technically should be able to afford some object tracking resulting in much better interpolation than mere averaging or something.
Also a comparison of resolution between all the slow-mo that on paper appear to be 720P could help assess actual quality, my second point.
Eventhough the DR is not up to the unrealistic level of Samsung, its subtle enough & flagship grade.
Whining about Night Mode? The Mates doesnt even need to use Night Mode to beat other competition, its still a low light king, as stated by the review.
Funny that you only stated negativity about the camera phone but ignores its pros that beat others. Best UWA implentation, best detail preservation on a smartphone camera, ever.
I dont care about your other post about their politics, but i know i made the right choice, choosing Huawei for a point & shoot camera along with my main Leica Q & Fuji X-E3.
"Eventhough the DR is not up to the unrealistic level of Samsung, its subtle enough & flagship grade."
So more DR than Huawei equals unrealistic? lol. Apple's UWA output also has more DR and is quite realistic. The processing of the two Samsung variants is also different, and not entirely less realistic than for example P30P.
"The Mates doesnt even need to use Night Mode to beat other competition" Rather that it would lose to others where it might have won without night mode?
Andrei left out a lot of individual analysis between samples, but clearly there are too many catches for it to be declared outright "king", which I summarized as "When not much FoV is needed, DR isn't too extreme, and lighting is either sufficient enough not to need night mode or lacking enough that Samsung's tiny sensor tends to capture no data, this new UWA has the advantage."
Note that I acknowledge the advantage, where there is one, only I also acknowledge the disadvantage, where there is one, unlike you who does nothing but brag.
"Best UWA implentation" is, again, false. You don't say that a 21/2 is better than a 12/5.6, because the drastic difference in FoV makes then incomparable, and the UWA, already ~18mm in stills, a 1.5x crop compared to Samsung and Apple's UWA, is a ~21mm equiv. FoV in night mode's forced 4:3 crop, so no matter how much cleaner it is, you can't call it something along the lines of "the best". Your claim is akin to "my 16-35/2.8 is better than your 12-24/4", or "my 50/0.95 is better than your 75/1.4", which is nothing but ignorant fanboy talk. You're lucky this is Anandtech, or else you'd be laughed at commenting like that under DPR.
Also some things I left unsaid as I already covered some of Mate30P's performance in the comments of the Pixel 4 review, I felt no need to repeat them.
"Leica Q" You bought an expensive toy that will go to waste in your hands. Your X-E3 purchase does expose your taste for JPG filters over material performance gain though, not surprising for a Huawei fanboy.
After all this years of Android it is really disappointing that still at the end of 2019 no one seems to be able to beat the iPhone 11 PRO display accuracy.
Anyone else had an issue with the Nano Memory card not being detected? Dual sim works so the slots fine, but 1 sim and 1 NM card and its not seeing the NM card, the wifes Mate 20 Pro sees it fine so its not the card?
If anything this shows we really need properly split Alphabet/Google from Android. Android being open source, it belongs to the world. But that's not much use if it's still locked to a single company in a country more than happy to be both judge, jury and executioner when it comes to world politics. All the major cellphone vendors should work together to replace the Google services with open alternatives. It's easy to pick on Huawei, but what's the next target? Samsung? Oppo? LG? Sony? Some other company not from USA?
Looks decent (except for those extra curved sides) ,and the specs are up there,it seems, I think at 500-600 Euros would be a realistic value offer , but for now I will stick to my iPhone 8,for at least a few more years .
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psychobriggsy - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
After years on Android, and a set of Android Apps and Services that I own via the Play Store (or because they come with the phone), the lack of Google Services and the Play Store is a critical piece of missing functionality.Indeed I'd say that this is not Android at all, Android for most people being the combination of core operating system and Google Services.
imaheadcase - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Exactly, the whole point of a android phone is to have google services. Anything else you are are developers whim in updates to OS and apps. Which if anyone who got burned by Samsung tablets know..its not pretty.prisonerX - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
There's something to be said for there being an alternative to the Google monopoly in that respect. Let's hope that something like that emerges from this fiasco.versesuvius - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Vendor lock-in does not even begin to describe what the US government is enforcing on the mobile phone users around the world. If at one time it was Apple or Microsoft or some other OS maker, now it is a political and economical system that the US government and Google want to lock the world in. That said, a mobile phone is nothing but Browser as OS. And the entire Google offering is nothing but open web technologies. The half hearthed attempts at something different from Google never added up to much because they always chose Google to fall back on from the get go. With Huawei on the one side and the general drift of the Western world towards Trumpism and the asinine single mindedness of what passes for American political and economical infrastructure, we are going to witness many wonderful shifts towards true freedom and innovation around the world and Huawei is just a very wonderful start.melgross - Sunday, December 1, 2019 - link
I hope Huawei has problems. The Chinese have been stealing secrets for some time, and Huawei is benefiting from that. In fact, early this year, two Apple vendors in China stated that they had been approached by Huawei for just that purpose.I have no sympathy for them.
shabby - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
The round ring on this phone looks amazing, wish more phones had that kind of ring.yetanotherhuman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Reminds me of my old Sony Ericsson P990, with the little selfie mirror :Dyetanotherhuman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
oh, and the actual physical protection for the lens.s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
...are you being sarcastic? This looks so last-decade-compact sort of cliché.Also many are commenting that it looks like a stove.
Alistair - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Can't me in the group that detests curved screens. Don't copy Samsung's mistakes. Every time I use a flat version, it feels and looks much better. Even the S10e vs the S10, or the Oneplus 7T vs 7 Pro, much better.Alistair - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
"Count" me ;)prisonerX - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Curved screens are ugly, distracting and generally idiotic.invinciblegod - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
The curved screen is the worst part about my Note 9, cases don't protect properly and it just looks ugly to me.StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
My Note 8 has the same screen as the Note 9. Can't say the curvature bothers me... But then I also have a Galaxy Note 10+ and it actually bothers me there.It was less pronounced on older devices and had no case issues with my Note 8.
yetanotherhuman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Yes. Curved screens are simply a ploy to make phones more easily damaged, and remove the possibility of having a well-fitting screen protector or case. Curved screens, forget 'em.GXCoder - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
K990 5G's GPU frequency is also 600MHz. Suppliers of screen are LG,BOE and SamsungA5 - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Having to play panel lottery with a flagship phone is kind of a dealbreaker if the Google stuff isn't already.s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
A three-way lottery, at that.Sttm - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Huawei should try and sell it to the Iranians, now that they are US banned, might as well go back to selling to Iran...Oh wait Iran turned off the internet to brutally repress their people, so no one needs a Mate Pro.
airdrifting - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Huawei sells to all over the world, including entire Europe and India. There is no international law says you can not sell phones to Iran, US can whine and moan all she wants but Huawei is free to do business with whoever they want because they are not a US company. The world is bigger than US, even if US bans Huawei (not because Huawei sells to Iran but rather Huawei is ahead in 5G technology), there is still rest of the world buying Huawei 5G. It's also pretty ironic and a slap to the face to a country which promotes free market when itself is doing the opposite. But I guess it's all okay because there are plenty of pathetic brainwashed losers in the US thinking they are the center of the world.invinciblegod - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
What you say is true, but there is also no international law that says US has to do business with Huawei if the US doesn't like what Huawei is doing. As such, the US decided to ban Huawei so that other companies will do what the US wants them to do (or not do). Basically, if you want to do business in China, you must in general follow China's instructions. If you want to do business in the US, you must follow US instructions. To do both you must be able to balance the two without angering either, which I guess is becoming harder.airdrifting - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
I was replying to the previous post which implies no one is buying from Huawei except Iran.invinciblegod - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Also, like it or not, the US is currently the center of the world, otherwise US ban of Huawei would have literally no effect. No one cares if say Iran bans your product, but many people do care if the US bans your product (or hinders it in some way).obama gaming - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
except... it doesn't really have that much of an effect. Huawei still remains as the largest telecommunications company and their stocks haven't drastically crashed either...invinciblegod - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Didn't they say they have a year supply of parts? If that is the case, then it would be a year at minimum for there to be any major effect. Also, to amend my previous statement, the US has not actually banned Huawei yet because they keep giving them 3 month exemptions which basically pauses the ban. Because the exemptions keep happening, people are more relaxed and think it will continue forever, sort of like Brexit.s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
You are completely correct, without continuously running for over a year, the ban is almost entirely symbolistic.webdoctors - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
LOL, that's because the expectation is they'll get a reprieve like ZTE did. If USA went nuclear and just banned Huawei from the SWIFT banking system, Huawei stock would be worthless over night.USA has a huge number of ways of damaging a corporation, much more than China. China can only ban you from selling in China, USA can essentially ban you from doing business in the entire world using their 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon if they want to go nuclear.
s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
"China can only ban you from selling in China“Don't underestimate the Party, they stalled anti-trust probes of other companies twice(Motorola and Qualcomm) in retaliation to investigations into Huawei's IP theft and each time did a lot of damage. Their unique advantage is that they could hit you in ways you never thought possible.
s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
"There is no international law says you can not sell phones to Iran, US can whine and moan all she wants but Huawei is free to do business with whoever they want because they are not a US company"Says the Huawei drone?
Then who gave the CCP the right to block the Motorola-Nokia Siemens and NXP-Qualcomm mergers incurring hundreds of millions of damages when all the rest of the world gave the green light? None of those companies are Chinese.
alufan - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
whole Family have been Huawei users for the last few years however not any more the mate 20 pros curve was just tolerable this one seems way to much and yes lack of banking apps etc is a total deal breaker for usPenGunn - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
My Mate 20 is flawless. Got a seriously good deal from Virgin in BC Canada and its the best phone I've ever had. My previous phone, a P10 was the best, until I picked up the Mate 20. All the Google crap is there. Still sideloading is easy.dudedud - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
So... what's the point of the bigger NPU? It's actually used anywhere? Or at least have an advantage over the one on the 980?Kangal - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
The biggest advantage of the NPU is for......OEMs to say look we have Neural Link and AI-capabilities, despite not doing anything :D
s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Bragging rights.cfenton - Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - link
Without side-loading APKs or installing Google Play Services, what's available on the device? Is the Huawei app store any good, or is it like Samsung's store (most of the big stuff, but nowhere near everything)?Kangal - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Why has no-one else asked this question?!?(I'd think it's significantly worse than GalaxyApps, Amazon Appstore, APKpure, Aptoide and F-Droid)
cfenton - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
I suspect you're right, but I'd like to know for sure. I think a casual user could get away with the Amazon Appstore, and maybe even the Galaxy Store, but not anything less than that. I'd like to know, for example, how many of the top 50 apps on the Play Store are available on the Huawei store.yetanotherhuman - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
New SD card type. Ugh. Who do they think they are, Sony? MicroSD is small enough. It works. They're cheap, and everywhere, up to unbelievably large sizes. Let's not mess with it.s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Oh they think they're Apple alright.Jostian - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
why only ever compare the Mate 30 P to the P30 P?? how does it compare to the iPhone 11 or Pixel etc. you have all the photos but then only compare the 2 Huawei's?? iPhone has more smearing especially in foliage and fine detail imho but really hoped the review would go beyond just the 2 Huawei's in terms of camera comparison...s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
"a unique 90° curved screen on its sides – a first not only for Huawei but for the smartphone market overall"...IIRC NEX 3 with the same screen curve design was launched 3 days before this model.
But the comments regarding the ergonomics certainly push me further towards the ROGP2.
"The new sensor is a native 16:9 unit" really surprises me as I thought it was a 3:2, since it shoots stills in 3:2, in this case the 4:3 crop in night mode would be even more of a compromise cutting out a larger portion of the sensor, essentially highlighting how severe the falloff and in cam shadow lifting is.
But this doesn't explain the poor DR of the new unit.
If I were shooting an UWA I'd probably prefer a narrower one, as the ~12mm FoV is overdramatic and incredibly difficult to master, but this isn't the main issue as I don't believe a significantly relevant proportion of users of these ultimately consumer devices actually understand photography enough to have that in mind.
The night mode on the UWA still has severe smearing that hasn't been resolved, especially obvious in the shot of the theater, whose exacerbation in edges and corners under a certain lighting threshold is observable in the 2nd sample on the stairs, so what I observed from GSMA's very few night samples turns out to be universal, that the UWA night mode on this big big sensor is actually worse than Samsung's tiny tiny sensor with a far wider FoV. Peculiar.
So the conclusion here is: When not much FoV is needed, DR isn't too extreme, and lighting is either sufficient enough not to need night mode or lacking enough that Samsung's tiny sensor tends to capture no data, this new UWA has the advantage.
A minor detail regarding "The ISO51200 of the sensor in the regular mode is able to get better results than the image stacking of ISO1600 pictures in night mode." The ISO1600 is probably calculated from the accumulated shutter durations of the burst, I don't believe it's likely that a burst could be captured without vibration under this lighting with each shot at ISO1600.
Finally, I was expecting a sprinkler test of the "7680fps", and preferably a test on effective video resolution, shame this wasn't included.
Andrei Frumusanu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
You are right about the 3:2, I was absentmindedly writing 16:9.In regards to the slow-mi, Ian did an article few months back:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14897/a-day-with-th...
The capture is just 2000fps interpolated 4x, I investigated this in the software.
s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Yeah I know, just that a running tap was too slow, while a sprinkler test would yield more as to how the interpolation is done, e.g. the NPU technically should be able to afford some object tracking resulting in much better interpolation than mere averaging or something.Also a comparison of resolution between all the slow-mo that on paper appear to be 720P could help assess actual quality, my second point.
Dazzler86 - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Eventhough the DR is not up to the unrealistic level of Samsung, its subtle enough & flagship grade.Whining about Night Mode? The Mates doesnt even need to use Night Mode to beat other competition, its still a low light king, as stated by the review.
Funny that you only stated negativity about the camera phone but ignores its pros that beat others. Best UWA implentation, best detail preservation on a smartphone camera, ever.
I dont care about your other post about their politics, but i know i made the right choice, choosing Huawei for a point & shoot camera along with my main Leica Q & Fuji X-E3.
s.yu - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Oh I know a Huawei fanboy when I see one alright."Eventhough the DR is not up to the unrealistic level of Samsung, its subtle enough & flagship grade."
So more DR than Huawei equals unrealistic? lol. Apple's UWA output also has more DR and is quite realistic. The processing of the two Samsung variants is also different, and not entirely less realistic than for example P30P.
"The Mates doesnt even need to use Night Mode to beat other competition"
Rather that it would lose to others where it might have won without night mode?
The Mate, which on auto:
https://images.anandtech.com/galleries/7356/Mate30... beats Samsung's night mode(for as wide as its FoV would cover): https://images.anandtech.com/galleries/7356/S10E_2...
loses handily to Samsung's night mode with its own night mode: https://images.anandtech.com/galleries/7356/Mate30...
with much narrower FoV, much more severe smearing etc.
This inconsistency, a strong argument against night mode use in many nighttime conditions, is a liability, because the user is forced to guess when night mode works better and when it's far worse, and the penalty for making a mistake in judgement is a heavy one.
Andrei left out a lot of individual analysis between samples, but clearly there are too many catches for it to be declared outright "king", which I summarized as "When not much FoV is needed, DR isn't too extreme, and lighting is either sufficient enough not to need night mode or lacking enough that Samsung's tiny sensor tends to capture no data, this new UWA has the advantage."
Note that I acknowledge the advantage, where there is one, only I also acknowledge the disadvantage, where there is one, unlike you who does nothing but brag.
"Best UWA implentation"
is, again, false. You don't say that a 21/2 is better than a 12/5.6, because the drastic difference in FoV makes then incomparable, and the UWA, already ~18mm in stills, a 1.5x crop compared to Samsung and Apple's UWA, is a ~21mm equiv. FoV in night mode's forced 4:3 crop, so no matter how much cleaner it is, you can't call it something along the lines of "the best". Your claim is akin to "my 16-35/2.8 is better than your 12-24/4", or "my 50/0.95 is better than your 75/1.4", which is nothing but ignorant fanboy talk. You're lucky this is Anandtech, or else you'd be laughed at commenting like that under DPR.
Also some things I left unsaid as I already covered some of Mate30P's performance in the comments of the Pixel 4 review, I felt no need to repeat them.
"Leica Q"
You bought an expensive toy that will go to waste in your hands. Your X-E3 purchase does expose your taste for JPG filters over material performance gain though, not surprising for a Huawei fanboy.
SydneyBlue120d - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Thank You Andrei for your great review!After all this years of Android it is really disappointing that still at the end of 2019 no one seems to be able to beat the iPhone 11 PRO display accuracy.
phils1969 - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
Anyone else had an issue with the Nano Memory card not being detected? Dual sim works so the slots fine, but 1 sim and 1 NM card and its not seeing the NM card, the wifes Mate 20 Pro sees it fine so its not the card?Calista - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link
If anything this shows we really need properly split Alphabet/Google from Android. Android being open source, it belongs to the world. But that's not much use if it's still locked to a single company in a country more than happy to be both judge, jury and executioner when it comes to world politics. All the major cellphone vendors should work together to replace the Google services with open alternatives. It's easy to pick on Huawei, but what's the next target? Samsung? Oppo? LG? Sony? Some other company not from USA?liquid_c - Saturday, November 30, 2019 - link
In the pfw chart, the iPhones get 2 subsections (cold/peak and hot) while the other devices, don’t. Why is that?AidenP - Saturday, December 7, 2019 - link
Looks decent (except for those extra curved sides) ,and the specs are up there,it seems, I think at 500-600 Euros would be a realistic value offer , but for now I will stick to my iPhone 8,for at least a few more years .Cod3rror - Wednesday, December 25, 2019 - link
Anandtech, your camera comparisons are fantastic! Thanks for always including full resolution, original images.LiamWearing - Thursday, July 30, 2020 - link
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