I wish Intel would stop with the hyperthreading, surely the majority of work loads will be virtualised, the gains from HT (maybe 30%) aren't worth the loss of security? And I wish they would stop reserving ECC memory for "server" chips, this will is driving me into the arms of AMD by default.
I don't think that 8 core cpu is going to be virtualized and shared. This looks like a very special-purpouse server. But you can always disable HT. No point in selling it without it. Plus there is a (small) chance, that they fixed this vulnerability in latest revision (they did fix some vulnerability in HW in revision used for 9900KS)
HT is free to intel, and as an end user if you don't like it you can always disable it. Also, they do have ECC on workstation class procs like the E-2200 (for workstation, not server) and the core i3s and pentiums also have ECC (on C24x chipsets only though)
Ian, yes that is true. But if vFunct wants 45 W Xeon E processors, isn't mobile the way to go? Intel does not have 45 W Xeon E desktop processors that I know of.
For Kaby Lake, the 45 W Xeon E was the mobile E3-1535M v6 or similar. For 8th generation Coffee Lake, the 45 W Xeon E was the mobile 2186M or similar. For 9th generation Coffee Lake, the 45 W Xeon E is the mobile 2286M or similar.
Pricing listed any where? Got to thing AMD is still going to be a better play with the 7nm waffer at this point. Unless Intel is a good bit less expensive.
A quick search showed prices for the E2226G at around £252 (priced in .cz Koruna and converted) and the E2246G at £330 on a UK web site. Insight US has the E2246G at $367.
At least Dell, HP and Fujitsu have been offering the Xeon E-2200 line for a couple of months now. I should know. We're in the process of getting some workstations based on them. Also, ark.intel.com lists these as having launched in Q2 2019.
TBH, I didn't notice that on my first read-through. But nevertheless the title is misleading. Should've been more like "Intel Relaunches Xeon E-2200 Series". Also, the statement about the chips previously having been released for the cloud market is a bit misleading. As I wrote, they've been available for entry level workstations for some time.
Approximately what price point are we looking for the E-2288G at vis-a-vis with the 9900K and 9900K? I realize they are totally different market segments with slightly different featuresets enabled, but it is interesting to see where they fall compared to their consumer counterparts.
"The Xeon E-2288G and Xeon E-2278G have the honor of being the first 8-core Xeon Entry parts, differing in 15W TDP and 300 MHz base frequency, but both offering 5.0 GHz turbo on up to two cores."
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vFunct - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
No 45 Watt low-power version? Those make great home NAS servers.speculatrix - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
I wish Intel would stop with the hyperthreading, surely the majority of work loads will be virtualised, the gains from HT (maybe 30%) aren't worth the loss of security?And I wish they would stop reserving ECC memory for "server" chips, this will is driving me into the arms of AMD by default.
qap - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
I don't think that 8 core cpu is going to be virtualized and shared. This looks like a very special-purpouse server. But you can always disable HT. No point in selling it without it.Plus there is a (small) chance, that they fixed this vulnerability in latest revision (they did fix some vulnerability in HW in revision used for 9900KS)
firewrath9 - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
HT is free to intel, and as an end user if you don't like it you can always disable it.Also, they do have ECC on workstation class procs like the E-2200 (for workstation, not server) and the core i3s and pentiums also have ECC (on C24x chipsets only though)
dullard - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
Xeon A E-2286M was also launched: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/produc...2 more cores, 500 MHz lower base frequency due to the additional cores, 200 MHz higher turbo, 4 MB more cache. Same price same 45 W TDP.
dullard - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
Full Comparison:https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compar...
Ian Cutress - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
M are the mobile chips, not the socketed desktop chips.dullard - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
Ian, yes that is true. But if vFunct wants 45 W Xeon E processors, isn't mobile the way to go? Intel does not have 45 W Xeon E desktop processors that I know of.For Kaby Lake, the 45 W Xeon E was the mobile E3-1535M v6 or similar.
For 8th generation Coffee Lake, the 45 W Xeon E was the mobile 2186M or similar.
For 9th generation Coffee Lake, the 45 W Xeon E is the mobile 2286M or similar.
at8750 - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
IntelR Xeon E-2100 and E-2200 Processor Family Datasheet, Vol. 18-Core GT2 95W PL1:95W PL2:210W TAU:28S iccMAX:193A
8-Core GT2 80W PL1:80W PL2:210W TAU:28S iccMAX:193A
2.21*PL1=PL2
Supercell99 - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
Pricing listed any where? Got to thing AMD is still going to be a better play with the 7nm waffer at this point. Unless Intel is a good bit less expensive.TrevorH - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
A quick search showed prices for the E2226G at around £252 (priced in .cz Koruna and converted) and the E2246G at £330 on a UK web site. Insight US has the E2246G at $367.azrael- - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
Is this Anandtech being late to the party?At least Dell, HP and Fujitsu have been offering the Xeon E-2200 line for a couple of months now. I should know. We're in the process of getting some workstations based on them. Also, ark.intel.com lists these as having launched in Q2 2019.
dullard - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
The article specifically states "Today’s launch is a secondary launch, with Intel having released the Xeon-E 2200 series some time ago."azrael- - Wednesday, November 6, 2019 - link
TBH, I didn't notice that on my first read-through. But nevertheless the title is misleading. Should've been more like "Intel Relaunches Xeon E-2200 Series". Also, the statement about the chips previously having been released for the cloud market is a bit misleading. As I wrote, they've been available for entry level workstations for some time.Hifihedgehog - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
Approximately what price point are we looking for the E-2288G at vis-a-vis with the 9900K and 9900K? I realize they are totally different market segments with slightly different featuresets enabled, but it is interesting to see where they fall compared to their consumer counterparts.peevee - Tuesday, November 5, 2019 - link
"The Xeon E-2288G and Xeon E-2278G have the honor of being the first 8-core Xeon Entry parts, differing in 15W TDP and 300 MHz base frequency, but both offering 5.0 GHz turbo on up to two cores."The last table says otherwise. Only 1 core@5GHz.
AnybodyM - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
This CPU is not availably ANYWHERE. Just check: Newegg, Amazon, pcpartpicker, geizhals. Nowhere to be found. It's a fake paper launch.dullard - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Exactly, a fake paper launch, well, except for the places currently selling it such as this:https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/cty/pdp/spd/p...